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2019 under 20's

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  • mimicM Offline
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    I think the scrummaging thing is partly because of the rules at schoolboy level..

    I'm always surprised to see Auckland players make the u20s for another province.. Is it because Auckland can't identify talent or what?

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    • mimicM mimic

      I think the scrummaging thing is partly because of the rules at schoolboy level..

      I'm always surprised to see Auckland players make the u20s for another province.. Is it because Auckland can't identify talent or what?

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      @mimic Think it was a case of the Chiefs recruiting them a couple of years ago.

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      • mimicM mimic

        I think the scrummaging thing is partly because of the rules at schoolboy level..

        I'm always surprised to see Auckland players make the u20s for another province.. Is it because Auckland can't identify talent or what?

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        @mimic said in 2019 under 20's:

        I think the scrummaging thing is partly because of the rules at schoolboy level..

        I'm always surprised to see Auckland players make the u20s for another province.. Is it because Auckland can't identify talent or what?

        Isn't it really just an economy-of-scale thing - a very high number of talented players leaving school each year who can't all fit into the two Auckland Under 19 teams at Jock Hobbs tournament so they look to move elsewhere?

        You've got ten 1A comp schools, say a squad of 25 for each, thats 250 players. Let's say half of them leave school each year, so that's 125 going into club/provincial rugby every year. The two Auckland teams at the Jock Hobbs tournament only caters for 50 players, so that leaves more than half the 125 leavers going into some kind of rep void each year when they want to get noticed.

        Mitre 10 Cup provinces are scouring the country for talent and players scour the country for provinces to get into their rep teams.

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          Who are the best midfield backs in that squad?

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          • TimT Tim

            Who are the best midfield backs in that squad?

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            #107

            @Tim IMO Danny Toala and Quinn Tupaea

            Edited to add Scott Gregory (forgot he had been added to the squad). However, they've made Dallas McLeod vice-captian, so I assume he'll be one of the first picks. Toala can play fullbakc as well.

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              #108

              Proctor will most likely start at centre if he is released - Toala to fullback.

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                Anyone know what Salyn Tonu'u has been up to?

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                  Would be an absolute waste if they put Scott Gregory on the wing or at Fullback. Should be nailed on at 12

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                    #111

                    The NZU20 team list for the game against Fiji hasn't been posted, yet, but Fiji has announced its team.

                    Fijian Under-20 Team

                    1 Livai Natave, 2 Tevita Ikanivere {c}, 3 Joseva Nasaroa, 4 Etonia Waqa, 5 Christopher Minimbi, 6 Vilive Miramira, 7 Alivereti Loaloa, 8 Eparama Sailo
                    9 Simione Kuruvoli, 10 Caleb Muntz, 11 Epeli Momo, 12 Veresa Ramototabua, 13 Ilaisa Droasese, 14 Kaminieli Rasaku, 15 Osea Waqa

                    Reserves
                    16 Lino Vasuinadi, 17 Meli Sikoijeriko, 18 Emosi Tuqiri, 19 Taniela Ramasibana, 20 Anasa Qaranivalu, 21 Josh Vuta, 22 Taniela Soqonawasaliwa, 23 Osea Natoga

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                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                      Proctor will most likely start at centre if he is released - Toala to fullback.

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                      @Canes4life said in 2019 under 20's:

                      Proctor will most likely start at centre if he is released - Toala to fullback.

                      It looks like Proctor hasn't been released. He's in the MSP line-up to play club rugby tomorrow.

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                        Interesting, I think he will be available for the WC though won't he??

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                          Finally, the NZU20 team to play Fiji has been named:

                          1 Ollie Norris (Waikato)
                          2 Kianu Kereru Symes – captain (Hawke’s Bay)
                          3 Kaliopasi Uluilakepa (Manawatu)
                          4 Naitoa Ah Kuoi (Wellington)
                          5 Tupou Vaa’i (Taranaki)
                          6 Samipeni Finau (Waikato)
                          7 Jeriah Mua (Bay of Plenty)
                          8 Devan Flanders (Hawke’s Bay)
                          9 Leroy Carter (Bay of Plenty)
                          10 Fergus Burke (Canterbury)
                          11 Sam Gilbert (Canterbury)
                          12 Dallas McLeod (Canterbury)
                          13 Quinn Tupaea (Waikato)
                          14 Lalomilo Lalomilo (Bay of Plenty)
                          15 Danny Toala (Hawke’s Bay)

                          Reserves:
                          16 Shilo Klein (Canterbury)
                          17 George Dyer (Waikato)
                          18 Fletcher Newell (Canterbury)
                          19 Tamaiti Williams (Canterbury)
                          20 Taine Plumtree (Wellington)
                          21 Cullen Grace (Canterbury)
                          22 Kaylum Boshier (Taranaki)
                          23 Kohan Herbert (Bay of Plenty)
                          24 Simon Parker (Waikato)
                          25 Taufa Funaki (Auckland)
                          26 Rivez Reihana (Waikato)
                          27 Chay Fihaki (Canterbury)
                          28 Cole Forbes (Bay of Plenty)

                          A World Rugby trial sees a 13-man bench, with eight players able to be used as replacements during the match.  
                          
                          Hawke’s Bay’s Kianu Kereru Symes will captain the team from the front row and is flanked by Ollie Norris and Kaliopasi Uluilakepa who are both returning from the 2018 campaign.
                          
                          Devan Flanders, also a member of the 2018 team, gets the start at eight, while Waikato’s Quinn Tupaea will bring his Mitre 10 Cup experience to the midfield.
                          

                          Games will be live streamed on the Oceania Rugby facebook page.

                          http://www.allblacks.com/News/34033/nz-under-20s-named-for-oceania-opener

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                            Junior Wallabies team to play Japan: https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2019/04/25/oceania-junior-wallabies-japan-team

                            Japan U20 team to play Australia, in Japanese or in French (will replace these links, once I find the line-up in English)

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                            • StargazerS Stargazer

                              Finally, the NZU20 team to play Fiji has been named:

                              1 Ollie Norris (Waikato)
                              2 Kianu Kereru Symes – captain (Hawke’s Bay)
                              3 Kaliopasi Uluilakepa (Manawatu)
                              4 Naitoa Ah Kuoi (Wellington)
                              5 Tupou Vaa’i (Taranaki)
                              6 Samipeni Finau (Waikato)
                              7 Jeriah Mua (Bay of Plenty)
                              8 Devan Flanders (Hawke’s Bay)
                              9 Leroy Carter (Bay of Plenty)
                              10 Fergus Burke (Canterbury)
                              11 Sam Gilbert (Canterbury)
                              12 Dallas McLeod (Canterbury)
                              13 Quinn Tupaea (Waikato)
                              14 Lalomilo Lalomilo (Bay of Plenty)
                              15 Danny Toala (Hawke’s Bay)

                              Reserves:
                              16 Shilo Klein (Canterbury)
                              17 George Dyer (Waikato)
                              18 Fletcher Newell (Canterbury)
                              19 Tamaiti Williams (Canterbury)
                              20 Taine Plumtree (Wellington)
                              21 Cullen Grace (Canterbury)
                              22 Kaylum Boshier (Taranaki)
                              23 Kohan Herbert (Bay of Plenty)
                              24 Simon Parker (Waikato)
                              25 Taufa Funaki (Auckland)
                              26 Rivez Reihana (Waikato)
                              27 Chay Fihaki (Canterbury)
                              28 Cole Forbes (Bay of Plenty)

                              A World Rugby trial sees a 13-man bench, with eight players able to be used as replacements during the match.  
                              
                              Hawke’s Bay’s Kianu Kereru Symes will captain the team from the front row and is flanked by Ollie Norris and Kaliopasi Uluilakepa who are both returning from the 2018 campaign.
                              
                              Devan Flanders, also a member of the 2018 team, gets the start at eight, while Waikato’s Quinn Tupaea will bring his Mitre 10 Cup experience to the midfield.
                              

                              Games will be live streamed on the Oceania Rugby facebook page.

                              http://www.allblacks.com/News/34033/nz-under-20s-named-for-oceania-opener

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                              @Stargazer

                              A World Rugby trial sees a 13-man bench, with eight players able to be used as replacements during the match.

                              Sheesh!

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                @Stargazer

                                A World Rugby trial sees a 13-man bench, with eight players able to be used as replacements during the match.

                                Sheesh!

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                                @taniwharugby said in 2019 under 20's:

                                @Stargazer

                                A World Rugby trial sees a 13-man bench, with eight players able to be used as replacements during the match.

                                Sheesh!

                                WHAT??!! That's the last thing the game needs!!

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                                • StargazerS Stargazer

                                  Finally, the NZU20 team to play Fiji has been named:

                                  1 Ollie Norris (Waikato)
                                  2 Kianu Kereru Symes – captain (Hawke’s Bay)
                                  3 Kaliopasi Uluilakepa (Manawatu)
                                  4 Naitoa Ah Kuoi (Wellington)
                                  5 Tupou Vaa’i (Taranaki)
                                  6 Samipeni Finau (Waikato)
                                  7 Jeriah Mua (Bay of Plenty)
                                  8 Devan Flanders (Hawke’s Bay)
                                  9 Leroy Carter (Bay of Plenty)
                                  10 Fergus Burke (Canterbury)
                                  11 Sam Gilbert (Canterbury)
                                  12 Dallas McLeod (Canterbury)
                                  13 Quinn Tupaea (Waikato)
                                  14 Lalomilo Lalomilo (Bay of Plenty)
                                  15 Danny Toala (Hawke’s Bay)

                                  Reserves:
                                  16 Shilo Klein (Canterbury)
                                  17 George Dyer (Waikato)
                                  18 Fletcher Newell (Canterbury)
                                  19 Tamaiti Williams (Canterbury)
                                  20 Taine Plumtree (Wellington)
                                  21 Cullen Grace (Canterbury)
                                  22 Kaylum Boshier (Taranaki)
                                  23 Kohan Herbert (Bay of Plenty)
                                  24 Simon Parker (Waikato)
                                  25 Taufa Funaki (Auckland)
                                  26 Rivez Reihana (Waikato)
                                  27 Chay Fihaki (Canterbury)
                                  28 Cole Forbes (Bay of Plenty)

                                  A World Rugby trial sees a 13-man bench, with eight players able to be used as replacements during the match.  
                                  
                                  Hawke’s Bay’s Kianu Kereru Symes will captain the team from the front row and is flanked by Ollie Norris and Kaliopasi Uluilakepa who are both returning from the 2018 campaign.
                                  
                                  Devan Flanders, also a member of the 2018 team, gets the start at eight, while Waikato’s Quinn Tupaea will bring his Mitre 10 Cup experience to the midfield.
                                  

                                  Games will be live streamed on the Oceania Rugby facebook page.

                                  http://www.allblacks.com/News/34033/nz-under-20s-named-for-oceania-opener

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                                  #118

                                  @Stargazer said in 2019 under 20's:

                                  Finally, the NZU20 team to play Fiji has been named:
                                  3 Kaliopasi Uluilakepa (Manawatu)

                                  When did he sign for the 'Poo as he was still playing at tighthead for Petone as late as 13 April?

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                                    @Stargazer said in 2019 under 20's:

                                    Finally, the NZU20 team to play Fiji has been named:
                                    3 Kaliopasi Uluilakepa (Manawatu)

                                    When did he sign for the 'Poo as he was still playing at tighthead for Petone as late as 13 April?

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                                    @Higgins Yeah, I noticed that, too. Peter Russell has been busy (re-)signing players since he arrived ...

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                                      Oh no, Peter Russell coaching at the 'Poo. I was completely unaware of that. He was such a nice guy that I had a great deal of time for previously.

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                                        Kaliopasi Uluilakepa is from Wellington, is that Manawatu a typo or has he signed for them?

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                                          @taniwharugby said in 2019 under 20's:

                                          @Stargazer

                                          A World Rugby trial sees a 13-man bench, with eight players able to be used as replacements during the match.

                                          Sheesh!

                                          WHAT??!! That's the last thing the game needs!!

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                                          @mariner4life said in 2019 under 20's:

                                          @taniwharugby said in 2019 under 20's:

                                          @Stargazer

                                          A World Rugby trial sees a 13-man bench, with eight players able to be used as replacements during the match.

                                          Sheesh!

                                          WHAT??!! That's the last thing the game needs!!

                                          I'm starting to believe World Rugby hates the game.

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