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2019 under 20's

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  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

    @Higgins It's the time and effort spent on these guys and their development that pisses me off. I don't get what the point of an academy is when these guys end up playing elsewhere anyway.

    Doubt Wellington Rugby have anyone in line to take Walker-Leawere's spot, history suggests they are too stupid and will most likely pin their hopes on green horns like Ah Koui and Plumtree.

    Just simply stupidity all around from a region that gives jobs to the boys and wonders why they never win anything.

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    @Canes4life said in 2019 under 20's:

    @Higgins It's the time and effort spent on these guys and their development that pisses me off. I don't get what the point of an academy is when these guys end up playing elsewhere anyway.

    Doubt Wellington Rugby have anyone in line to take Walker-Leawere's spot, history suggests they are too stupid and will most likely pin their hopes on green horns like Ah Koui and Plumtree.

    Just simply stupidity all around from a region that gives jobs to the boys and wonders why they never win anything.

    Naitoa Akuoi is about as injury prone as the infamous Christian Lloyd and the almost as permanently injured Geoffrey Cridge so the WRFU would be well advised to tread with caution there.

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      I won't be watching this game until after both SR matches, but here's the link to the livestream:

      https://www.facebook.com/oceaniarugbyunion/videos/2652205901488053/

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        @Canes4life said in 2019 under 20's:

        @Higgins It's the time and effort spent on these guys and their development that pisses me off. I don't get what the point of an academy is when these guys end up playing elsewhere anyway.

        Doubt Wellington Rugby have anyone in line to take Walker-Leawere's spot, history suggests they are too stupid and will most likely pin their hopes on green horns like Ah Koui and Plumtree.

        Just simply stupidity all around from a region that gives jobs to the boys and wonders why they never win anything.

        Naitoa Akuoi is about as injury prone as the infamous Christian Lloyd and the almost as permanently injured Geoffrey Cridge so the WRFU would be well advised to tread with caution there.

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        @Higgins don't think he's injury prone - he decided to have surgery on both his hips to get himself right before professional footy. Will see how he goes in the 20s match.

        A recent article on Uluilakepa gives me doubts that he has signed with Manawatu - http://www.clubrugby.nz/2019/04/17/pasi-uluilakepa-working-hard-for-rugby-success/

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          Just love u20 rugby, always excited to see the future.

          Interesting to see what schools they attended

          1 Ollie Norris - St Peters Cambridge
          2 Kianu Kereru Symes – Hastings Boys
          3 Kaliopasi Uluilakepa - Fiji
          4 Naitoa Ah Kuoi - Wellington College
          5 Tupou Vaa’i - Wesley College
          6 Samipeni Finau St Peters Cambridge
          7 Jeriah Mua Hastings Boys
          8 Devan Flanders Hastings Boys
          9 Leroy Carter- Tauranga Boys
          10 Fergus Burke - St Pauls Collegiate
          11 Sam Gilbert - St Andrews
          12 Dallas McLeod - Christs College
          13 Quinn Tupaea - Hamilton Boys
          14 Lalomilo Lalomilo De La Salle
          15 Danny Toala - Hastings Boys

          Reserves:
          16 Shilo Klein - St Andrews
          17 George Dyer - St Pauls Collegiate
          18 Fletcher Newell - Rangiora
          19 Tamaiti Williams - St Kents
          20 Taine Plumtree - Wellington College
          21 Cullen Grace - Timaru Boys
          22 Kaylum Boshier - New Plymouth Boys
          23 Kohan Herbert - Australia
          24 Simon Parker - St Peters School
          25 Taufa Funaki - Sacred Heart
          26 Rivez Reihana - St Kents
          27 Chay Fihaki - Sacred Heart
          28 Cole Forbes - Tauranga Boys

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          • 9 98blueandgold

            Just love u20 rugby, always excited to see the future.

            Interesting to see what schools they attended

            1 Ollie Norris - St Peters Cambridge
            2 Kianu Kereru Symes – Hastings Boys
            3 Kaliopasi Uluilakepa - Fiji
            4 Naitoa Ah Kuoi - Wellington College
            5 Tupou Vaa’i - Wesley College
            6 Samipeni Finau St Peters Cambridge
            7 Jeriah Mua Hastings Boys
            8 Devan Flanders Hastings Boys
            9 Leroy Carter- Tauranga Boys
            10 Fergus Burke - St Pauls Collegiate
            11 Sam Gilbert - St Andrews
            12 Dallas McLeod - Christs College
            13 Quinn Tupaea - Hamilton Boys
            14 Lalomilo Lalomilo De La Salle
            15 Danny Toala - Hastings Boys

            Reserves:
            16 Shilo Klein - St Andrews
            17 George Dyer - St Pauls Collegiate
            18 Fletcher Newell - Rangiora
            19 Tamaiti Williams - St Kents
            20 Taine Plumtree - Wellington College
            21 Cullen Grace - Timaru Boys
            22 Kaylum Boshier - New Plymouth Boys
            23 Kohan Herbert - Australia
            24 Simon Parker - St Peters School
            25 Taufa Funaki - Sacred Heart
            26 Rivez Reihana - St Kents
            27 Chay Fihaki - Sacred Heart
            28 Cole Forbes - Tauranga Boys

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            @98blueandgold Geez, Auckland/Blues have only retained one of those guys.

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              I hope the Canes have Flanders locked up on a long term deal. He just seems class and has a massive work rate.

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                Half back is Marshall Mark 2. likes to run alot!

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                      Is this the NZ "B" XV starting for this game?

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                        interesting half. set piece ok but maybe tactics wrong. We looked good when just let forwards go forward, seemed to be going sideways before earning right to. Flanders and Toala the best. Big issue for this team is 9-10, dont really look like we have any this year they can run a game. Fiji have improved so much at this age level though, playing well.

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                          interesting half. set piece ok but maybe tactics wrong. We looked good when just let forwards go forward, seemed to be going sideways before earning right to. Flanders and Toala the best. Big issue for this team is 9-10, dont really look like we have any this year they can run a game. Fiji have improved so much at this age level though, playing well.

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                          @98blueandgold What type of first five is Reihana?

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                            @98blueandgold What type of first five is Reihana?

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                            @Tim interested to see if he can be the one but not sure he can.

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                              better evn with the red card to the Fiji player. go forward first. great run by Norris who has impressed.

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                              • 9 98blueandgold

                                better evn with the red card to the Fiji player. go forward first. great run by Norris who has impressed.

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                                @98blueandgold I missed that, what was the card for?

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                                  Really bad tackle by the winger, lifted and driven into ground.

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                                    Biggest work-on for this team is decision making and hands, been very poor.

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                                      Overall NZ got through game but wont be happy with aspects. Fiji were very good though and have improved immensely in the last few years at this level.

                                      Positives - Defence and set piece great (even at this torny in past we have looked poor. I remember last year our scrum getting beaten by Fiji)

                                      The negative - attack, especially catch and pass, looked poor when went wide which is very unlike u20 teams of the past. We do have most of our first choice backs out however.

                                      Names who stood up for coaches. All F/R used, Flanders, Toala (before inj), Lamilo.

                                      overall I would say things went as planned with team named. F/R I thought was going to be a strength this year and it showed. Big issues around middle row 4,5,6,7. Only Vaai showed anything. the main issue with this group is lack of X-Factor. No ball carriers and no fetchers at the next level. Mua, Ah-Khoi and Finua showed nothing that would scare Nth Hemp Teams.
                                      Other issues this year was 9-10. Both Funaki and Carter are runners and more Pulu type players then Smiths. Not sure we have a combo that can work for us this year. Maybe Trask as a 10 when back.

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                                      • 9 98blueandgold

                                        Overall NZ got through game but wont be happy with aspects. Fiji were very good though and have improved immensely in the last few years at this level.

                                        Positives - Defence and set piece great (even at this torny in past we have looked poor. I remember last year our scrum getting beaten by Fiji)

                                        The negative - attack, especially catch and pass, looked poor when went wide which is very unlike u20 teams of the past. We do have most of our first choice backs out however.

                                        Names who stood up for coaches. All F/R used, Flanders, Toala (before inj), Lamilo.

                                        overall I would say things went as planned with team named. F/R I thought was going to be a strength this year and it showed. Big issues around middle row 4,5,6,7. Only Vaai showed anything. the main issue with this group is lack of X-Factor. No ball carriers and no fetchers at the next level. Mua, Ah-Khoi and Finua showed nothing that would scare Nth Hemp Teams.
                                        Other issues this year was 9-10. Both Funaki and Carter are runners and more Pulu type players then Smiths. Not sure we have a combo that can work for us this year. Maybe Trask as a 10 when back.

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                                        @98blueandgold said in 2019 under 20's:

                                        no fetchers at the next level

                                        Thought this was noticable when I watched the 1st half. We struggled to turn over their phase posession.

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                                          I thought the half back had a very good game and was involved in a lot.
                                          Just wondering how many 1st choice players were in this team?

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