Rugby & Concussions / Head Injuries
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Sports may be a bit nervous about litigation further down the track. Recently two footballers in different codes here in Australia have admitted having problems 5 or 7 years after retiring which have included passing out and epileptic fits and class actions have been mentioned as a possibility if these symptoms can be shown to be related to concussions they received in their professional playing days i.e. their workplace.
I am on the executive of a smallish regional Hockey Association and we have been asked by our governing body to have a concussion policy/strategy in place
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I’d be interested to see them trial it on Senior rugby even though we’re all not mostly muscles like the Pros we still take the hits in my game on Saturday one of the opposition was knocked out cold.
@mikey07 reckon it's a good idea (costing tho!?). There would be significant collisions at nearly all levels of full tackle rugby imo. Probably less frequent in lower grades, but if you're on the pitch you are a chance to get snotted aye.
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In my opinion it's not the size of the guys at the "lower levels" (although most of them at any serious grade are fucking big now) it's the fact that as you slip down in grades, the accuracy of the players gets progressively worse. You are more likely to cop a lazy smack in the face in reserve grade as a guy wants to go hard, but doesn't have the skill to do it safely. Lower grades are where the needlessly violent end up too.
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One of our young guys on the weekend copped a nasty one 10 minutes in - ambulance took him to hospital. Grade ?2? diagnosis, though he wasn't really knocked out. I was running touch, and it was the first time I've seen someone take a knee to the head that close, and not be able to get up without staggering.
Shame as he's 22 and built for the front row, but picked up 4 previous concussions playing grid iron so my advice to him: sit the fuck down.
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One of our young guys on the weekend copped a nasty one 10 minutes in - ambulance took him to hospital. Grade ?2? diagnosis, though he wasn't really knocked out. I was running touch, and it was the first time I've seen someone take a knee to the head that close, and not be able to get up without staggering.
Shame as he's 22 and built for the front row, but picked up 4 previous concussions playing grid iron so my advice to him: sit the fuck down.
@NTA ugh, a knee or hip to the head can drop you like a stone. I wonder if Mythbusters ever did an impact test for sports? they did them a bunch for other sorts of collisions or explosions. Hmmm can't see the NFL of old getting behind that! too much chance of bad info coming out.
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One of our young guys on the weekend copped a nasty one 10 minutes in - ambulance took him to hospital. Grade ?2? diagnosis, though he wasn't really knocked out. I was running touch, and it was the first time I've seen someone take a knee to the head that close, and not be able to get up without staggering.
Shame as he's 22 and built for the front row, but picked up 4 previous concussions playing grid iron so my advice to him: sit the fuck down.
@NTA said in Concussion:
One of our young guys on the weekend copped a nasty one 10 minutes in - ambulance took him to hospital. Grade ?2? diagnosis, though he wasn't really knocked out. I was running touch, and it was the first time I've seen someone take a knee to the head that close, and not be able to get up without staggering.
Shame as he's 22 and built for the front row, but picked up 4 previous concussions playing grid iron so my advice to him: sit the fuck down.
Given that you claimed you were "running" touch I'm unsure about how true the rest is.
In all seriousness that's farked. We're lucky rugby was invented back in the good old days. No way it would be allowed these days. I don't there's a single person who has played the game for any length of time who hasn't sustained a relatively serious injury. I retired from my underwhelming rugby career at 24. I'd been knocked out twice, broke my nose twice, broke my ankle, and tore my hamstring. And that doesn't include stitches and the times some fuckwit tap danced on my head. I'd imagine that was getting off lightly compared to many who have played the game. Rugby is a psycho game which requires zero regard for your own personal safety. Once you start getting worried about injury, it's pretty much game over.
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@NTA ugh, a knee or hip to the head can drop you like a stone. I wonder if Mythbusters ever did an impact test for sports? they did them a bunch for other sorts of collisions or explosions. Hmmm can't see the NFL of old getting behind that! too much chance of bad info coming out.
@Paekakboyz said in Concussion:
@NTA ugh, a knee or hip to the head can drop you like a stone. I wonder if Mythbusters ever did an impact test for sports? they did them a bunch for other sorts of collisions or explosions. Hmmm can't see the NFL of old getting behind that! too much chance of bad info coming out.
And he's actually got a solid tackling technique - this was just a freak incident where he was in the wrong place during a cleanout.
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@NTA said in Concussion:
One of our young guys on the weekend copped a nasty one 10 minutes in - ambulance took him to hospital. Grade ?2? diagnosis, though he wasn't really knocked out. I was running touch, and it was the first time I've seen someone take a knee to the head that close, and not be able to get up without staggering.
Shame as he's 22 and built for the front row, but picked up 4 previous concussions playing grid iron so my advice to him: sit the fuck down.
Given that you claimed you were "running" touch I'm unsure about how true the rest is.
In all seriousness that's farked. We're lucky rugby was invented back in the good old days. No way it would be allowed these days. I don't there's a single person who has played the game for any length of time who hasn't sustained a relatively serious injury. I retired from my underwhelming rugby career at 24. I'd been knocked out twice, broke my nose twice, broke my ankle, and tore my hamstring. And that doesn't include stitches and the times some fuckwit tap danced on my head. I'd imagine that was getting off lightly compared to many who have played the game. Rugby is a psycho game which requires zero regard for your own personal safety. Once you start getting worried about injury, it's pretty much game over.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel pffffft. 35 years playing rugby and my most brutal injury came playing netball.
@Bones said in Concussion:
@Rancid-Schnitzel pffffft. 35 years playing rugby and my most brutal injury came playing netball.
You played netball? What a fag.
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@Bones said in Concussion:
@Rancid-Schnitzel pffffft. 35 years playing rugby and my most brutal injury came playing netball.
You played netball? What a fag.
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Concussion:
@Bones said in Concussion:
@Rancid-Schnitzel pffffft. 35 years playing rugby and my most brutal injury came playing netball.
You played netball? What a fag.
You should see me on court, I'm such a bitch.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Concussion:
@Bones said in Concussion:
@Rancid-Schnitzel pffffft. 35 years playing rugby and my most brutal injury came playing netball.
You played netball? What a fag.
You should see me on court, I'm such a bitch.
@Bones said in Concussion:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Concussion:
@Bones said in Concussion:
@Rancid-Schnitzel pffffft. 35 years playing rugby and my most brutal injury came playing netball.
You played netball? What a fag.
You should see me on court, I'm such a bitch.
I assume you wear the skirt as well?
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@Bones said in Concussion:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Concussion:
@Bones said in Concussion:
@Rancid-Schnitzel pffffft. 35 years playing rugby and my most brutal injury came playing netball.
You played netball? What a fag.
You should see me on court, I'm such a bitch.
I assume you wear the skirt as well?
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Concussion:
@Bones said in Concussion:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Concussion:
@Bones said in Concussion:
@Rancid-Schnitzel pffffft. 35 years playing rugby and my most brutal injury came playing netball.
You played netball? What a fag.
You should see me on court, I'm such a bitch.
I assume you wear the skirt as well?
You antiquated old fuck.
Not on court.
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@NTA said in Concussion:
One of our young guys on the weekend copped a nasty one 10 minutes in - ambulance took him to hospital. Grade ?2? diagnosis, though he wasn't really knocked out. I was running touch, and it was the first time I've seen someone take a knee to the head that close, and not be able to get up without staggering.
Shame as he's 22 and built for the front row, but picked up 4 previous concussions playing grid iron so my advice to him: sit the fuck down.
Given that you claimed you were "running" touch I'm unsure about how true the rest is.
In all seriousness that's farked. We're lucky rugby was invented back in the good old days. No way it would be allowed these days. I don't there's a single person who has played the game for any length of time who hasn't sustained a relatively serious injury. I retired from my underwhelming rugby career at 24. I'd been knocked out twice, broke my nose twice, broke my ankle, and tore my hamstring. And that doesn't include stitches and the times some fuckwit tap danced on my head. I'd imagine that was getting off lightly compared to many who have played the game. Rugby is a psycho game which requires zero regard for your own personal safety. Once you start getting worried about injury, it's pretty much game over.
@Rancid-Schnitzel I actually took my 20s off because of the amount of concussions I sustained in my teens my opinion was well I don’t have a professional contract in front of me so why risk my health. A lot of my mates kept playing and are now having to give it away.
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I was watching the Warriors game last night and the small Bronco halve leapt up and lead with his head into a tackle on Ken Maumalo. It resulted in a concussion with Maumalo bleeding from the nose. The head contact wasn’t deliberate but the technique to my mind is incredibly dangerous - that is, a high tackle ( around the shoulder area ) where the tacking player tackles front on without turning their head. It reminded of a Fijian tackle on Leon MacDonald some years that lead to his concussion issues.
My point with this is that both rugby and league need to add this to their list of issues and start taking concussions seriously.
Interesting that the commentators just referred to the Maumalo tackle as a head clash not worthy of a penalty. Similarly last week week when Peter Hiku stumbled away concussed from a tackle, in the mid week show with blocker Roach and Toovey they both agreed the game didn’t need to be stopped. And, next week Hiku is playing again.
Today there is an article about the great Steve Folkes having brain disease with the suspicion that it was related to concussions from his playing days.
It’s a difficult issue in contact sports, but I am not sure that the games are doing all they should to look after players - and some of the attitudes of those involved are archaic.
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I was watching the Warriors game last night and the small Bronco halve leapt up and lead with his head into a tackle on Ken Maumalo. It resulted in a concussion with Maumalo bleeding from the nose. The head contact wasn’t deliberate but the technique to my mind is incredibly dangerous - that is, a high tackle ( around the shoulder area ) where the tacking player tackles front on without turning their head. It reminded of a Fijian tackle on Leon MacDonald some years that lead to his concussion issues.
My point with this is that both rugby and league need to add this to their list of issues and start taking concussions seriously.
Interesting that the commentators just referred to the Maumalo tackle as a head clash not worthy of a penalty. Similarly last week week when Peter Hiku stumbled away concussed from a tackle, in the mid week show with blocker Roach and Toovey they both agreed the game didn’t need to be stopped. And, next week Hiku is playing again.
Today there is an article about the great Steve Folkes having brain disease with the suspicion that it was related to concussions from his playing days.
It’s a difficult issue in contact sports, but I am not sure that the games are doing all they should to look after players - and some of the attitudes of those involved are archaic.
@kev The NRL in my opinion has very little regard for their athletes, I read the story in the Sydney Morning herald about Steve Folkes, you would think there would be some sort of outrage or at least an effort to acknowledge what is happening in the game.
I saw a very big hit in the Manly v Rabbits game, looked spectacular on first impressions, and the director could not wait for a stoppage soon enough to show the contact , the reality was there was no arms, just a shoulder into the chest which snapped the head back..
Here’s a novel idea, how about future proofing your game for people play it in the future, maybe even some of them will be your grandchildren. -
Don't know where else to post this, so I'm posting it here.
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Don't know where else to post this, so I'm posting it here.
@Stargazer said in Concussion:
Don't know where else to post this, so I'm posting it here.
How do the injury rates and long term implications of said injuries compare with the general population?
Lifespan of elite athletes v general population?
Without that data this study is meaningless.
It's like saying skydiving is more dangerous than chess.
