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  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

    @Stargazer surely then if they have put that much effort into getting him over from Aus, they wouldn't then go and sign McClutchie.

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    @Canes4life In experience, McClutchie is well ahead of him, having played Mitre 10 Cup. It depends entirely on how much experience they're looking for in their third first five-eighth. Something we don't know; so everything is just speculation. If you read my earlier post, you will have noticed that I said between brackets "they probably won't".

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      @Canes4life In experience, McClutchie is well ahead of him, having played Mitre 10 Cup. It depends entirely on how much experience they're looking for in their third first five-eighth. Something we don't know; so everything is just speculation. If you read my earlier post, you will have noticed that I said between brackets "they probably won't".

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      @Stargazer I don't have much faith in Cameron ,So experience would be a good option. Random thought Bateman as 3rd back up 10 he did play there for the Crusader Knights

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        @Stargazer I don't have much faith in Cameron ,So experience would be a good option. Random thought Bateman as 3rd back up 10 he did play there for the Crusader Knights

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        @Chris Bateman could be a stop-gap, but it's not really a solution. He turns 32 in June.

        Edit: I wouldn't write off Cameron just yet. Maybe he'll have a blinder of an NPC season this year and show us what the coaches are apparently seeing in him.

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

          @Canes4life In experience, McClutchie is well ahead of him, having played Mitre 10 Cup. It depends entirely on how much experience they're looking for in their third first five-eighth. Something we don't know; so everything is just speculation. If you read my earlier post, you will have noticed that I said between brackets "they probably won't".

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          @Stargazer yeah but the Canes have already lost Fakatava so wouldn't be suprised if we lost him to a team like the Crusaders.

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          • StargazerS Stargazer

            @Chris Bateman could be a stop-gap, but it's not really a solution. He turns 32 in June.

            Edit: I wouldn't write off Cameron just yet. Maybe he'll have a blinder of an NPC season this year and show us what the coaches are apparently seeing in him.

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            @Stargazer as well as Cameron Parata,Fegus Burke, and Chay Fihaki sit within the Crusaders system.

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            • ChrisC Chris

              @Stargazer as well as Cameron Parata,Fegus Burke, and Chay Fihaki sit within the Crusaders system.

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              @Chris What position does Cameron Parata play (I can't find any info about him)? Burke isn't a real 10 (and was pretty average for NZU20) and Fihaki is a centre/wing.

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                @Chris What position does Cameron Parata play (I can't find any info about him)? Burke isn't a real 10 (and was pretty average for NZU20) and Fihaki is a centre/wing.

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                @Stargazer Hes a First Five here is an article signing for The Crusaders

                [link text](link url)https://www.rugby.com.au/news/2018/08/10/star-queensland-schoolboy-campbell-parata-signs-with-crusaders

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                • ChrisC Chris

                  [link text](link urlhttps://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/112409743/super-rugby-crusaders-no-10-mitch-hunt-set-to-shift-to-the-highlanders)

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                  @Chris That would be a good move for Mitch Hunt and good timing by him, as well, I think. People were already suggesting he should move on from the Crusaders last year and I think even the year before, but I don't think he had the experience to be a good bet at the helm.

                  He's improved markedly for the Mako over the past couple of seasons and hopefully will take another step forward this year.

                  Hopefully another season of NPC will also see significant improvement in Cameron. It's a tough job being a Super rugby first five and you've got to give these guys time.

                  I'm a bit concerned that the Highlanders might also be sniffing around the likes of Will Jordan. He's not someone I'd be happy seeing go south.

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                  • Chris B.C Chris B.

                    @Chris That would be a good move for Mitch Hunt and good timing by him, as well, I think. People were already suggesting he should move on from the Crusaders last year and I think even the year before, but I don't think he had the experience to be a good bet at the helm.

                    He's improved markedly for the Mako over the past couple of seasons and hopefully will take another step forward this year.

                    Hopefully another season of NPC will also see significant improvement in Cameron. It's a tough job being a Super rugby first five and you've got to give these guys time.

                    I'm a bit concerned that the Highlanders might also be sniffing around the likes of Will Jordan. He's not someone I'd be happy seeing go south.

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                    @Chris-B And Ennor so I hear I think He and Jordan will stay with the Crusaders

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                      It's CAMPBELL Parata, not Cameron.

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                        Yeah Sorry Campbell Parata

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                        • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                          It's CAMPBELL Parata, not Cameron.

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                          @Yeetyaah haha, that explains why I couldnt find him!

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                          • Chris B.C Chris B.

                            @Chris That would be a good move for Mitch Hunt and good timing by him, as well, I think. People were already suggesting he should move on from the Crusaders last year and I think even the year before, but I don't think he had the experience to be a good bet at the helm.

                            He's improved markedly for the Mako over the past couple of seasons and hopefully will take another step forward this year.

                            Hopefully another season of NPC will also see significant improvement in Cameron. It's a tough job being a Super rugby first five and you've got to give these guys time.

                            I'm a bit concerned that the Highlanders might also be sniffing around the likes of Will Jordan. He's not someone I'd be happy seeing go south.

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                            @Chris-B I don't think you will lose the most deadly Fullback since Christian Cullen. That would be a huge loss it that did eventuate - something I don't think the Crusaders would let happen.

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                              @Chris-B And Ennor so I hear I think He and Jordan will stay with the Crusaders

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                              @Chris said in Super Rugby News:

                              @Chris-B And Ennor so I hear I think He and Jordan will stay with the Crusaders

                              I think that is the smart move for both of them. Just need to bide their time a little bit.

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                              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                @Chris-B I don't think you will lose the most deadly Fullback since Christian Cullen. That would be a huge loss it that did eventuate - something I don't think the Crusaders would let happen.

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                                @Canes4life said in Super Rugby News:

                                @Chris-B I don't think you will lose the most deadly Fullback since Christian Cullen. That would be a huge loss it that did eventuate - something I don't think the Crusaders would let happen.

                                Canterbury did! 🙂

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                                  True. Surely Crusaders won't though. I'd prefer to keep Jordan over a guy like Havili.

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                                    Lol, no way we are going to let Jordan and Ennor go.

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                                      From the sanzar site for stats fans -

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                                      Which teams in the competition have been the best at getting themselves over the gain line, as well as stopping their opponents from doing the same?

                                      At any level of rugby, the battle for the gain line is crucial and in Super Rugby this is no different, with front foot ball being the catalyst to many breaks and ultimately tries.

                                      The Rebels have comfortably the best record of getting across the advantage line, boasting a gain line success rate of 60%, four percentage points better than the Bulls and the Brumbies who are the next best sides when in possession.
                                      However, it’s not always about getting yourself across the gain line, but also stopping your opponents from doing the same. Teams facing both the Stormers and the Bulls this season have only been able to muster a 45% success rate in getting over the gain line, while the Hurricanes have provided the meanest gain line defence of teams from outside South Africa.
                                      On an individual level, it is the Reds’ Chris Feauai-Sautia who boasts the best success rate of any player to make at least 30 ‘gain line’ carries, with New Zealand-based duo Tevita Li and Rieko Ioane hot on his heels, both boasting a 75% success rate in getting over the advantage line.
                                      For the forwards though it’s often a more difficult job to get over the gain line, with the big men often making the hard yards in tighter channels around the fringes of the breakdown. However, that hasn’t stopped the Rebels’ Isi Naisarani making inroads into opposition territory, as he’s recorded a 74% gain line success rate, the best of any forward. Perhaps the players who deserve most credit for making the top 10 gain line-breaking forwards are Armand van der Merwe and Agustin Creevy, representing the front row union and each making their way over the gain line on over 60% of their carries.

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                                      • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                                        From the sanzar site for stats fans -

                                        d01d2148-1dd0-4fa4-b35e-786cfa5b8e86-image.png

                                        eb377cc2-5a73-4e8c-b1c5-61d9496a561a-image.png

                                        Which teams in the competition have been the best at getting themselves over the gain line, as well as stopping their opponents from doing the same?

                                        At any level of rugby, the battle for the gain line is crucial and in Super Rugby this is no different, with front foot ball being the catalyst to many breaks and ultimately tries.

                                        The Rebels have comfortably the best record of getting across the advantage line, boasting a gain line success rate of 60%, four percentage points better than the Bulls and the Brumbies who are the next best sides when in possession.
                                        However, it’s not always about getting yourself across the gain line, but also stopping your opponents from doing the same. Teams facing both the Stormers and the Bulls this season have only been able to muster a 45% success rate in getting over the gain line, while the Hurricanes have provided the meanest gain line defence of teams from outside South Africa.
                                        On an individual level, it is the Reds’ Chris Feauai-Sautia who boasts the best success rate of any player to make at least 30 ‘gain line’ carries, with New Zealand-based duo Tevita Li and Rieko Ioane hot on his heels, both boasting a 75% success rate in getting over the advantage line.
                                        For the forwards though it’s often a more difficult job to get over the gain line, with the big men often making the hard yards in tighter channels around the fringes of the breakdown. However, that hasn’t stopped the Rebels’ Isi Naisarani making inroads into opposition territory, as he’s recorded a 74% gain line success rate, the best of any forward. Perhaps the players who deserve most credit for making the top 10 gain line-breaking forwards are Armand van der Merwe and Agustin Creevy, representing the front row union and each making their way over the gain line on over 60% of their carries.

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                                        @Daffy-Jaffy Tevita Li

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          @Daffy-Jaffy Tevita Li

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                                          @Bones Lies, damn lies and statistics! It doesn't mention how often they turn over the ball at the end of a run.

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