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2019 under 20's

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  • TimT Away
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    Cripes. Any of our team playing well?

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      Fulltime Australia 24, New Zealand less than one

      Worst ever defeat in the history of the NZ U20 team (started 2008).

      First time have ever failed to score.

      The 24-point loss is worse than the 12-point loss (21-33) to England in 2013.

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        Absolutely disgraceful how poor we were. Being held to 0 and never even looking like scoring. Would be the worst age grade backline I’ve seen ever from NZ! If Super players don’t get released we might struggle to win a game.

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          Absolutely disgraceful how poor we were. Being held to 0 and never even looking like scoring. Would be the worst age grade backline I’ve seen ever from NZ! If Super players don’t get released we might struggle to win a game.

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          @98blueandgold Move Gregory to 12?

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            @98blueandgold Move Gregory to 12?

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            @Tim wldnt help at All unfortunately.

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                Still disappointed after watching that. Many players have played there way out of the sqaud but I'm not sure where they can go. Cant see Clarke or Nanai-Seturo being released.
                Only others who may come in are McClutchie for some game management at 10 and Darry to help Vaai at lock.
                Cant see a 9 or 7 to help us anywhere.

                1 Ollie Norris (Waikato)
                2 Kianu Kereru Symes – captain (Hawke’s Bay)
                3 Kaliopasi Uluilakepa (Manawatu)
                4 Sam Darry
                5 Tupou Vaa’i
                6 Simon Parker
                7 ????????
                8 Devan Flanders (Hawke’s Bay)
                9 ?????? But Probably Funaki
                10 Lincoln McClutchie or Trask
                11 Faingaanuku
                12 Billy Proctor
                13 Caleb Clarke
                14 Nanai-seturo
                15 Danny Toala (Hawke’s Bay)
                Reserves:
                16 Robb Cobb
                17 George Dyer (Waikato)
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                19 Tamaiti Williams (Canterbury)
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                21 Cullen Grace (Canterbury)
                22 Kaylum Boshier (Taranaki)
                23 Scott Gregory
                24 Simon Parker (Waikato)
                25 Taufa Funaki (Auckland)
                26 Rivez Reihana (Waikato)
                27 Quinn Tupaea (Waikato)
                28 Lalomilo Lalomilo (Bay of Plenty)

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                  What's Niko Jones up to?

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                  • TimT Tim

                    @98blueandgold Move Gregory to 12?

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                    Yeahtheboys
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                    @Tim was he not the worst player out there?

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                      @Tim was he not the worst player out there?

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                      @Yeahtheboys I didn't see the game.

                      I thought he was a midfielder, not a wing.

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                        It sounds like none of the blame for the debacle can be aimed at Mr. Craig Philpott, unless he was the sole selector of the squad in the first place.

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                          It sounds like none of the blame for the debacle can be aimed at Mr. Craig Philpott, unless he was the sole selector of the squad in the first place.

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                          @Higgins Haven't watched the game, but the starting XV appears to be from Canterbury and the central North Island.

                          No decent youngsters from Auckland or Wellington? That's a surprise in an age group team!

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                            @Higgins Haven't watched the game, but the starting XV appears to be from Canterbury and the central North Island.

                            No decent youngsters from Auckland or Wellington? That's a surprise in an age group team!

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                            @Chris-B I can understand Wellington not having reps in the starting XV. The last few years, Hawke's Bay school teams have been kicking Wellington schools' asses in the Hurricanes competition. By the way, Billy Proctor wasn't released by the Hurricanes. The large number of Canterbury and Bay of Plenty players can probably be explained by the U19s tournament last year, which BoP won and Canterbury were runners-up.

                            Another thing I've noticed is that a few of the boys that were selected for the NZ Schools teams from Auckland schools the last few years, are now listed as coming from other provinces. Examples: Rivez Reihana (St Kent's - now Waikato), Chay Fihaki (Sacred Heart - Canterbury), Isaiah Punivai (St Kent's - Canterbury) etc. These players have returned to their home provinces. Auckland schools' poaching doesn't help Auckland rugby being represented in NZ U20s, it seems.

                            Haven't watched the game yet, so not commenting on the game, except for THAT IS A SHIT RESULT!!

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                              @Chris-B I can understand Wellington not having reps in the starting XV. The last few years, Hawke's Bay school teams have been kicking Wellington schools' asses in the Hurricanes competition. By the way, Billy Proctor wasn't released by the Hurricanes. The large number of Canterbury and Bay of Plenty players can probably be explained by the U19s tournament last year, which BoP won and Canterbury were runners-up.

                              Another thing I've noticed is that a few of the boys that were selected for the NZ Schools teams from Auckland schools the last few years, are now listed as coming from other provinces. Examples: Rivez Reihana (St Kent's - now Waikato), Chay Fihaki (Sacred Heart - Canterbury), Isaiah Punivai (St Kent's - Canterbury) etc. These players have returned to their home provinces. Auckland schools' poaching doesn't help Auckland rugby being represented in NZ U20s, it seems.

                              Haven't watched the game yet, so not commenting on the game, except for THAT IS A SHIT RESULT!!

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                              @Stargazer That's why I'm glad the Auckland schools took a stand against St Kents and to a lesser extent Kings as we weren't even seeing a lot of these kids come through the Auckland system. Hopefully more kids stay with their schools now instead of just coming up to Auckland to play rugby before returning to their provinces.

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                              • HigginsH Higgins

                                It sounds like none of the blame for the debacle can be aimed at Mr. Craig Philpott, unless he was the sole selector of the squad in the first place.

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                                @Higgins maybe some blame but this was about the best squad available to him without inj and Super players. Although I would say the skill level on attack has been as poor as I’ve seen from a NZ side ever, this is in all games. I wonder if game plan suits them. Also they were out-passioned by Aussies big time.

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                                  @Higgins maybe some blame but this was about the best squad available to him without inj and Super players. Although I would say the skill level on attack has been as poor as I’ve seen from a NZ side ever, this is in all games. I wonder if game plan suits them. Also they were out-passioned by Aussies big time.

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                                  @98blueandgold said in 2019 under 20's:

                                  @Higgins maybe some blame but this was about the best squad available to him without inj and Super players. Although I would say the skill level on attack has been as poor as I’ve seen from a NZ side ever, this is in all games. I wonder if game plan suits them. Also they were out-passioned by Aussies big time.

                                  As you know the small number of HB supporters on here have a lingering dislike for Mr. Philpott after his remarkable effort to get the Bay relegated twice in the space of a couple of seasons.

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                                    I still haven't been able to watch the NZ v Australia game (the result is putting me off), but fyi, Fiji beat Japan 59 - 37.

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                                      @Chris-B I can understand Wellington not having reps in the starting XV. The last few years, Hawke's Bay school teams have been kicking Wellington schools' asses in the Hurricanes competition. By the way, Billy Proctor wasn't released by the Hurricanes. The large number of Canterbury and Bay of Plenty players can probably be explained by the U19s tournament last year, which BoP won and Canterbury were runners-up.

                                      Another thing I've noticed is that a few of the boys that were selected for the NZ Schools teams from Auckland schools the last few years, are now listed as coming from other provinces. Examples: Rivez Reihana (St Kent's - now Waikato), Chay Fihaki (Sacred Heart - Canterbury), Isaiah Punivai (St Kent's - Canterbury) etc. These players have returned to their home provinces. Auckland schools' poaching doesn't help Auckland rugby being represented in NZ U20s, it seems.

                                      Haven't watched the game yet, so not commenting on the game, except for THAT IS A SHIT RESULT!!

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                                      Nogusta
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                                      @Stargazer Reihanas from Whangarei, Fihaki born n bred Aucklander

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                                        Lalomilo Lalomilo is another Aucklander that is now playing for BoP.

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                                          @Stargazer Reihanas from Whangarei, Fihaki born n bred Aucklander

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                                          @Nogusta Thanks, yes, I used the wrong examples. Reihana went to Huanui College before going to St Kent's. I was put on the wrong foot by the fact that he was in the Chiefs' U18 squad. Somehow that made me think he went to Hamilton Boys haha. Did you know that Chay Fihaki is the cousin of Albert Tuisue and Ben Volavola (Flying Fijians)?

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