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2019 Cricket ODI WC

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    Pakistan falling apart. This could be a big result because I can definitely see net run rate affecting who comes in 4th.

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      105 all out. Windies will want to get that in 15 overs.

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        Pakistan all out for 105, a last wicket partnership sneaking them into triple figures...

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          A very impressive seven wicket win to the Windies, with 36 overs to spare!

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            Windies bowling attack was very good with variation and bowling at awkward lengths.

            They are the dark horse in this WC.

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            • TeWaioT TeWaio

              As an aside, wanky slow-mo youtube mash up videos of catch with annoying music over the top are so unnecessary.

              Stokes' catch was great but he amde it look harder than it neded to be. Air Vettori at the Caketin in the 2015 World Cup was way better.

              https://www.icc-cricket.com/video/194927

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              @TeWaio said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

              As an aside, wanky slow-mo youtube mash up videos of catch with annoying music over the top are so unnecessary.

              Stokes' catch was great but he amde it look harder than it neded to be. Air Vettori at the Caketin in the 2015 World Cup was way better.

              https://www.icc-cricket.com/video/194927

              Skippy's catch had the added element of some crowd baiting straight after.

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                At this stage I really feel theres only Windies and India (with Aus hitting the comback trail) that look to have the armoury to really trouble England.
                Pakistan offered very little (embarrasing and disappointing for the fans) and SA were pretty poor also.
                Chris Gayle is just evergreen and so relaxed, I swear that man never ages - he's a joy to watch at the crease for the neutrals.

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                  Think the whole CWC has been a bit of a damp (literally) grey squib so far.
                  We've seen two games which have effectively each been a non-contest, and no side really getting their teeth into a game.
                  The weather hasn't come to the party either it has been a little damp, grey and changeable - although that is set to change tomorrow thsnkfully, when we rock up to the crease. It is supposed to be sunny and bright at about 22 degrees, just right, so lets hope the Black Caps get their groove on!

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                  • Jailbreak7J Jailbreak7

                    At this stage I really feel theres only Windies and India (with Aus hitting the comback trail) that look to have the armoury to really trouble England.
                    Pakistan offered very little (embarrasing and disappointing for the fans) and SA were pretty poor also.
                    Chris Gayle is just evergreen and so relaxed, I swear that man never ages - he's a joy to watch at the crease for the neutrals.

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                    @Jailbreak7 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                    At this stage I really feel theres only Windies and India (with Aus hitting the comback trail) that look to have the armoury to really trouble England.
                    Pakistan offered very little (embarrasing and disappointing for the fans) and SA were pretty poor also.
                    Chris Gayle is just evergreen and so relaxed, I swear that man never ages - he's a joy to watch at the crease for the neutrals.

                    They have a few gamebreakers but also some pretty ordinary looking players too. So much of how they go will be down to how Gayle, Russell, Holder and Roach perform. Hope has a phenomenal record in this form of the game too.

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                    • Jailbreak7J Jailbreak7

                      At this stage I really feel theres only Windies and India (with Aus hitting the comback trail) that look to have the armoury to really trouble England.
                      Pakistan offered very little (embarrasing and disappointing for the fans) and SA were pretty poor also.
                      Chris Gayle is just evergreen and so relaxed, I swear that man never ages - he's a joy to watch at the crease for the neutrals.

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                      @Jailbreak7 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                      At this stage I really feel theres only Windies and India (with Aus hitting the comback trail) that look to have the armoury to really trouble England.
                      Pakistan offered very little (embarrasing and disappointing for the fans) and SA were pretty poor also.
                      Chris Gayle is just evergreen and so relaxed, I swear that man never ages - he's a joy to watch at the crease for the neutrals.

                      Unfortunate for the fans perhaps that they weren’t more of a contest, but the results weren’t that unsurprising given how those relative teams have been performing and where they are at in their current cycles.

                      On Gayle, he looked to have tweaked his back during his innings and several balls later got out. Will be one to watch. He’s important but I think they have other players that are just as important to their fortunes. The positive thing is that there are more in that category than there were say 4 years ago.

                      I think our match vs SL is the game with the most unpredictable tag to it in the openers. Plenty of interest with the Aussies and Afghanistan because of Warner/Smith and the spin unknowns too.

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                        I reckon it is going to be one of England, Australia or India with the West Indies next in the rankings. I really don't think this NZ team is good enough, batting too reliant on KW and RT (who aren't going to reach a 350+ score) and bowling too reliant on Boult with the new ball.

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                          Timmy has supposedly got a calf niggle and seems unlikely to play- so Matt Henry will get a reprieve.

                          Articles also saying Nicholls is in some doubt and Munro may open. That option doesn't surprise me, but it smacks of wishful thinking. Big danger is that Munro performs like a gun in our first three games against probably the three weakest teams - uses up those opportunities for Nicholls to find some form - and then fails against the big boys.

                          If Nicholls is unavailable then I really want Latham opening and Blundell wearing the gloves.

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                            I reckon it is going to be one of England, Australia or India with the West Indies next in the rankings. I really don't think this NZ team is good enough, batting too reliant on KW and RT (who aren't going to reach a 350+ score) and bowling too reliant on Boult with the new ball.

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                            @KiwiPie Looking a bit that way at present. Windies have put down two impressive markers.

                            We really need to do our thing of beating all of the teams we should and then winning a couple that we shouldn't.

                            We really need Guppy to strike one of his veins of form and blast a few big hundreds and our lower middle order to play out of their skins - Neesham, CdG and Santner.

                            But our bowling - other than Boult - is a bit shit.

                            2019 Boult > 2015 Boult (Probably)
                            But,
                            2019 Southee < 2015 Southee
                            Santner/Sodhi < Vettori
                            Ferguson < Milne
                            Neesham/CdG < Anderson

                            If Boult doesn't get wickets I'm not sure who's going to be able to put the brakes on. Santner? Lockie?

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                            • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                              I reckon it is going to be one of England, Australia or India with the West Indies next in the rankings. I really don't think this NZ team is good enough, batting too reliant on KW and RT (who aren't going to reach a 350+ score) and bowling too reliant on Boult with the new ball.

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                              @KiwiPie said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                              I reckon it is going to be one of England, Australia or India with the West Indies next in the rankings. I really don't think this NZ team is good enough, batting too reliant on KW and RT (who aren't going to reach a 350+ score) and bowling too reliant on Boult with the new ball.

                              Would be awesome if it was us instead of Aus.

                              Also not sure how much you can read into the Windies first performance given the state of Pakistan these days.

                              It’s also a massive disservice to say this given how Guppy, Nicholls, Latham and the Neesh can and have batted.

                              Agree about the bowling sans Boult though

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                                I reckon it is going to be one of England, Australia or India with the West Indies next in the rankings. I really don't think this NZ team is good enough, batting too reliant on KW and RT (who aren't going to reach a 350+ score) and bowling too reliant on Boult with the new ball.

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                                @KiwiPie said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                I reckon it is going to be one of England, Australia or India with the West Indies next in the rankings. I really don't think this NZ team is good enough, batting too reliant on KW and RT (who aren't going to reach a 350+ score) and bowling too reliant on Boult with the new ball.

                                What KP said 🤓

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                                  @KiwiPie said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                  I reckon it is going to be one of England, Australia or India with the West Indies next in the rankings. I really don't think this NZ team is good enough, batting too reliant on KW and RT (who aren't going to reach a 350+ score) and bowling too reliant on Boult with the new ball.

                                  What KP said 🤓

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                                  So are we going to have a “Vote for the best catch of all time “ poll?
                                  Been great reliving some classic moments!
                                  Dan and Skippy!!!

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                                  • Jailbreak7J Jailbreak7

                                    Think the whole CWC has been a bit of a damp (literally) grey squib so far.
                                    We've seen two games which have effectively each been a non-contest, and no side really getting their teeth into a game.
                                    The weather hasn't come to the party either it has been a little damp, grey and changeable - although that is set to change tomorrow thsnkfully, when we rock up to the crease. It is supposed to be sunny and bright at about 22 degrees, just right, so lets hope the Black Caps get their groove on!

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                                    @Jailbreak7 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                    Think the whole CWC has been a bit of a damp (literally) grey squib so far.
                                    We've seen two games which have effectively each been a non-contest, and no side really getting their teeth into a game.
                                    The weather hasn't come to the party either it has been a little damp, grey and changeable - although that is set to change tomorrow thsnkfully, when we rock up to the crease. It is supposed to be sunny and bright at about 22 degrees, just right, so lets hope the Black Caps get their groove on!

                                    The sunny and bright has appeared in London today (meant to hit 25) but Cardiff will have some cloud and peak briefly in the low 20s.
                                    Damp, grey and changeable is what to expect as the norm in England although the sun does peek through every now and then

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                                      Afghanistan108 - for 5 (28.1 overs). As the T-shirt says, I support two teams New Zealand and anyone playing Australia.

                                      Whats c'mon in Dari and Pashto?

                                      Amazing to have Afghanistan at the Cricket World Cup. Until 2000 the Taliban would cut your hand off if you were found playing the game.

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                                        Gulbadin and Najibullah hitting some great shots. Afghanistan 153-for 5 off 32.2

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                                          @KiwiPie Looking a bit that way at present. Windies have put down two impressive markers.

                                          We really need to do our thing of beating all of the teams we should and then winning a couple that we shouldn't.

                                          We really need Guppy to strike one of his veins of form and blast a few big hundreds and our lower middle order to play out of their skins - Neesham, CdG and Santner.

                                          But our bowling - other than Boult - is a bit shit.

                                          2019 Boult > 2015 Boult (Probably)
                                          But,
                                          2019 Southee < 2015 Southee
                                          Santner/Sodhi < Vettori
                                          Ferguson < Milne
                                          Neesham/CdG < Anderson

                                          If Boult doesn't get wickets I'm not sure who's going to be able to put the brakes on. Santner? Lockie?

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                                          @Chris-B said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                          2019 Boult > 2015 Boult (Probably)
                                          But,
                                          2019 Southee < 2015 Southee
                                          Santner/Sodhi < Vettori
                                          Ferguson < Milne
                                          Neesham/CdG < Anderson

                                          2019 Tournament Format > 2015 Tournament Format for a team like NZ.

                                          As we have seen in the RWC anyone can beat anyone on their day, but turning out three quality performances under pressure against good sides is bloody difficult for most teams. As good as the 2015 side was (not the best CWC side we've had but top three for sure) I thought the format was going to be impossible for them to conquer.

                                          This year the format all the heavy lifting is getting to the top 4. If they manage to make it between Guppy, Williamson and Taylor if the stars align we can get two quality totals while Boult takes early wickets.

                                          Historically for all the unusually cruel luck we've had in semi-finals, quarter-finals and effective elimination games (with the bad luck usually occurring at the change of innings) we have had impeccable luck getting out of the pool stages.

                                          For those reasons I give this team a better chance to win the whole thing than last time, but that chance is not high.

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