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2019 Cricket ODI WC

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  • Chris B.C Chris B.

    @nzzp Yeah - they've pretty much shown all along that they really, really, really want Munro to open and I can understand their rationale. They want and need the Baz flying start.

    Unfortunately, Munro has shown pretty convincingly that he's a low probability option - so the "selecting" is not so much selecting as wishful thinking.

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    @Chris-B said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

    @nzzp Yeah - they've pretty much shown all along that they really, really, really want Munro to open and I can understand their rationale. They want and need the Baz flying start.

    Unfortunately, Munro has shown pretty convincingly that he's a low probability option - so the "selecting" is not so much selecting as wishful thinking.

    Not so sure. I think they did, but like me above they've accepted he's the back up and Henry Nicholls is their preferred option. Remember he was injured.

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    • boobooB booboo

      @Chris-B said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

      @nzzp Yeah - they've pretty much shown all along that they really, really, really want Munro to open and I can understand their rationale. They want and need the Baz flying start.

      Unfortunately, Munro has shown pretty convincingly that he's a low probability option - so the "selecting" is not so much selecting as wishful thinking.

      Not so sure. I think they did, but like me above they've accepted he's the back up and Henry Nicholls is their preferred option. Remember he was injured.

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      @booboo It will be interesting to see how it pans out.

      They persisted with Munro a lot longer than they should have earlier in the year and even in the first CWC warm up game vs India - they gave him the opening berth and Nicholls was back in the middle order.

      Now that he's made runs, I'm expecting him to be retained and I heard Wally Lees on the radio today expecting the same thing.

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        Bangles have 'Lankans 159-6 after 25 overs.

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        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

          Bangles have 'Lankans 159-6 after 25 overs.

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          @Victor-Meldrew said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

          Bangles have 'Lankans 159-6 after 25 overs.

          the Afghans you mean?

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          • canefanC canefan

            @Victor-Meldrew said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

            Bangles have 'Lankans 159-6 after 25 overs.

            the Afghans you mean?

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            @canefan

            Yep. Geography brain-fade...

            Lankans now 180-8. rain stopped play.

            Bloody great to see the Afghans so competitive considering what their country has been thru.

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            • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

              @canefan

              Yep. Geography brain-fade...

              Lankans now 180-8. rain stopped play.

              Bloody great to see the Afghans so competitive considering what their country has been thru.

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              @Victor-Meldrew said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

              @canefan

              Yep. Geography brain-fade...

              Lankans now 180-8. rain stopped play.

              Bloody great to see the Afghans so competitive considering what their country has been thru.

              Is the forecast looking favourable or do the Lankans look likely to escape by washout?

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                I like a good Afghan
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                • canefanC canefan

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                  @canefan

                  Yep. Geography brain-fade...

                  Lankans now 180-8. rain stopped play.

                  Bloody great to see the Afghans so competitive considering what their country has been thru.

                  Is the forecast looking favourable or do the Lankans look likely to escape by washout?

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                  @canefan

                  Raining until 1900. Dull mist and drizzle across much of the West of the UK

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                  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                    @canefan

                    Raining until 1900. Dull mist and drizzle across much of the West of the UK

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                    @Victor-Meldrew

                    I just said to Mrs Meldrew that, having introduced the natives to Anzac biscuits, looks like it's time to extend their culinary horizons yet again...,,

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                    • MajorPomM Away
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                      How on earth Malingas action is legal baffles me

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                        How on earth Malingas action is legal baffles me

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                        @MajorRage said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                        How on earth Malingas action is legal baffles me

                        eh, straight arm, just slingy. I have more issues with spinners in long sleeves, or some of the 'whippy' actions that are around. Kane can look a bit suss as well when bowling.

                        The thing with those lower actions is that high bounce gets largely taken out of the equation. Conversely, it looks a lot straighter, adn probably comes out of the umpire for the batsman.

                        I just can't see a basis to make it illegal. It's more amazing that it's controllable and repeatable - and tore us a new one from time to time 😐

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                          So the afghans couldn't get the win. That first 10 overs cost them big time. I haven't seen them before, jeez a few of their guys looked like weekend pub league players (they didn't play like that)

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                          • Chris B.C Chris B.

                            @MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                            Munros unbeaten 50 will piss his haters off massively. I'm picking at least two more decent scores to push his claims then everyone will get to say they told us so when he shits the bed in a semi ( provided we make it which is less than guaranteed despite our amazing start )

                            Have a look at the batting averages of all of the openers being used in this tournament.

                            There's a couple of outliers averaging over 50 - both Pakistanis, an Afghani, Shai Hope.

                            Most of the best players are in the mid to high 40s. Rohit Sharma, Shikhar Dhawan, Quentin de Kock, Hashim Amla, Davey Warner, Johnny Bairstow. There's quite a few of them.

                            Almost all of the others are in the low 40s or very high 30s - Jason Roy, Martin Guptill, Chris Gayle, Aaron Finch.

                            Then a few mid-30s - both Bangladeshis are around 36. The two Sri Lankans are 36 and 35. The more experienced Afghani averages 34.

                            And down below them is Colin - averaging 26 and not much more taking his stats purely as an opener.

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                            @Chris-B said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                            @MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                            Munros unbeaten 50 will piss his haters off massively. I'm picking at least two more decent scores to push his claims then everyone will get to say they told us so when he shits the bed in a semi ( provided we make it which is less than guaranteed despite our amazing start )

                            Have a look at the batting averages of all of the openers being used in this tournament.

                            There's a couple of outliers averaging over 50 - both Pakistanis, an Afghani, Shai Hope.

                            Most of the best players are in the mid to high 40s. Rohit Sharma, Shikhar Dhawan, Quentin de Kock, Hashim Amla, Davey Warner, Johnny Bairstow. There's quite a few of them.

                            Almost all of the others are in the low 40s or very high 30s - Jason Roy, Martin Guptill, Chris Gayle, Aaron Finch.

                            Then a few mid-30s - both Bangladeshis are around 36. The two Sri Lankans are 36 and 35. The more experienced Afghani averages 34.

                            And down below them is Colin - averaging 26 and not much more taking his stats purely as an opener.

                            Wow, he genuinely is a weak link then when you take that into consideration.

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                            • canefanC canefan

                              So the afghans couldn't get the win. That first 10 overs cost them big time. I haven't seen them before, jeez a few of their guys looked like weekend pub league players (they didn't play like that)

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                              @canefan said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                              So the afghans couldn't get the win. That first 10 overs cost them big time. I haven't seen them before, jeez a few of their guys looked like weekend pub league players (they didn't play like that)

                              That keeper was a classic throwback to the days of Boon and Gatting.

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                              • MN5M MN5

                                @Chris-B said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                @MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                Munros unbeaten 50 will piss his haters off massively. I'm picking at least two more decent scores to push his claims then everyone will get to say they told us so when he shits the bed in a semi ( provided we make it which is less than guaranteed despite our amazing start )

                                Have a look at the batting averages of all of the openers being used in this tournament.

                                There's a couple of outliers averaging over 50 - both Pakistanis, an Afghani, Shai Hope.

                                Most of the best players are in the mid to high 40s. Rohit Sharma, Shikhar Dhawan, Quentin de Kock, Hashim Amla, Davey Warner, Johnny Bairstow. There's quite a few of them.

                                Almost all of the others are in the low 40s or very high 30s - Jason Roy, Martin Guptill, Chris Gayle, Aaron Finch.

                                Then a few mid-30s - both Bangladeshis are around 36. The two Sri Lankans are 36 and 35. The more experienced Afghani averages 34.

                                And down below them is Colin - averaging 26 and not much more taking his stats purely as an opener.

                                Wow, he genuinely is a weak link then when you take that into consideration.

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                                @MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                @Chris-B said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                @MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                Munros unbeaten 50 will piss his haters off massively. I'm picking at least two more decent scores to push his claims then everyone will get to say they told us so when he shits the bed in a semi ( provided we make it which is less than guaranteed despite our amazing start )

                                Have a look at the batting averages of all of the openers being used in this tournament.

                                There's a couple of outliers averaging over 50 - both Pakistanis, an Afghani, Shai Hope.

                                Most of the best players are in the mid to high 40s. Rohit Sharma, Shikhar Dhawan, Quentin de Kock, Hashim Amla, Davey Warner, Johnny Bairstow. There's quite a few of them.

                                Almost all of the others are in the low 40s or very high 30s - Jason Roy, Martin Guptill, Chris Gayle, Aaron Finch.

                                Then a few mid-30s - both Bangladeshis are around 36. The two Sri Lankans are 36 and 35. The more experienced Afghani averages 34.

                                And down below them is Colin - averaging 26 and not much more taking his stats purely as an opener.

                                Wow, he genuinely is a weak link then when you take that into consideration.

                                Part of the reason they've persisted with him is his domestic stats are pretty out of this world. 51 first-class average at a strike rate of 98. 36 List-A average striking at 112. The guy can smack seven shades of shit out of it when he gets going; it just appears that to date he only has the ability to get going against the weaker attacks. Put him up against the Aus attack and he has no other style of play to fall back on so gets badly found out.

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                                • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                  @MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                  @Chris-B said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                  @MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                  Munros unbeaten 50 will piss his haters off massively. I'm picking at least two more decent scores to push his claims then everyone will get to say they told us so when he shits the bed in a semi ( provided we make it which is less than guaranteed despite our amazing start )

                                  Have a look at the batting averages of all of the openers being used in this tournament.

                                  There's a couple of outliers averaging over 50 - both Pakistanis, an Afghani, Shai Hope.

                                  Most of the best players are in the mid to high 40s. Rohit Sharma, Shikhar Dhawan, Quentin de Kock, Hashim Amla, Davey Warner, Johnny Bairstow. There's quite a few of them.

                                  Almost all of the others are in the low 40s or very high 30s - Jason Roy, Martin Guptill, Chris Gayle, Aaron Finch.

                                  Then a few mid-30s - both Bangladeshis are around 36. The two Sri Lankans are 36 and 35. The more experienced Afghani averages 34.

                                  And down below them is Colin - averaging 26 and not much more taking his stats purely as an opener.

                                  Wow, he genuinely is a weak link then when you take that into consideration.

                                  Part of the reason they've persisted with him is his domestic stats are pretty out of this world. 51 first-class average at a strike rate of 98. 36 List-A average striking at 112. The guy can smack seven shades of shit out of it when he gets going; it just appears that to date he only has the ability to get going against the weaker attacks. Put him up against the Aus attack and he has no other style of play to fall back on so gets badly found out.

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                                  @No-Quarter said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                  @MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                  @Chris-B said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                  @MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                  Munros unbeaten 50 will piss his haters off massively. I'm picking at least two more decent scores to push his claims then everyone will get to say they told us so when he shits the bed in a semi ( provided we make it which is less than guaranteed despite our amazing start )

                                  Have a look at the batting averages of all of the openers being used in this tournament.

                                  There's a couple of outliers averaging over 50 - both Pakistanis, an Afghani, Shai Hope.

                                  Most of the best players are in the mid to high 40s. Rohit Sharma, Shikhar Dhawan, Quentin de Kock, Hashim Amla, Davey Warner, Johnny Bairstow. There's quite a few of them.

                                  Almost all of the others are in the low 40s or very high 30s - Jason Roy, Martin Guptill, Chris Gayle, Aaron Finch.

                                  Then a few mid-30s - both Bangladeshis are around 36. The two Sri Lankans are 36 and 35. The more experienced Afghani averages 34.

                                  And down below them is Colin - averaging 26 and not much more taking his stats purely as an opener.

                                  Wow, he genuinely is a weak link then when you take that into consideration.

                                  Part of the reason they've persisted with him is his domestic stats are pretty out of this world. 51 first-class average at a strike rate of 98. 36 List-A average striking at 112. The guy can smack seven shades of shit out of it when he gets going; it just appears that to date he only has the ability to get going against the weaker attacks. Put him up against the Aus attack and he has no other style of play to fall back on so gets badly found out.

                                  I’ve used that very argument on here myself ( incidentally I had no idea those strike rates were that good, wow ) but the counter is always his technique, or lack of, at the highest level.

                                  Do we have to accept he’s a NZ version of Graeme Hick or Mark Ramprakash?

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                                  • MN5M MN5

                                    @No-Quarter said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                    @MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                    @Chris-B said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                    @MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                    Munros unbeaten 50 will piss his haters off massively. I'm picking at least two more decent scores to push his claims then everyone will get to say they told us so when he shits the bed in a semi ( provided we make it which is less than guaranteed despite our amazing start )

                                    Have a look at the batting averages of all of the openers being used in this tournament.

                                    There's a couple of outliers averaging over 50 - both Pakistanis, an Afghani, Shai Hope.

                                    Most of the best players are in the mid to high 40s. Rohit Sharma, Shikhar Dhawan, Quentin de Kock, Hashim Amla, Davey Warner, Johnny Bairstow. There's quite a few of them.

                                    Almost all of the others are in the low 40s or very high 30s - Jason Roy, Martin Guptill, Chris Gayle, Aaron Finch.

                                    Then a few mid-30s - both Bangladeshis are around 36. The two Sri Lankans are 36 and 35. The more experienced Afghani averages 34.

                                    And down below them is Colin - averaging 26 and not much more taking his stats purely as an opener.

                                    Wow, he genuinely is a weak link then when you take that into consideration.

                                    Part of the reason they've persisted with him is his domestic stats are pretty out of this world. 51 first-class average at a strike rate of 98. 36 List-A average striking at 112. The guy can smack seven shades of shit out of it when he gets going; it just appears that to date he only has the ability to get going against the weaker attacks. Put him up against the Aus attack and he has no other style of play to fall back on so gets badly found out.

                                    I’ve used that very argument on here myself ( incidentally I had no idea those strike rates were that good, wow ) but the counter is always his technique, or lack of, at the highest level.

                                    Do we have to accept he’s a NZ version of Graeme Hick or Mark Ramprakash?

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                                    @MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                    Do we have to accept he’s a NZ version of Graeme Hick or Mark Ramprakash?

                                    It would appear to be so. If we play anyone decent cue Colin folding like a deck chair in a gale

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                                      Jaapies start cautiously against India, but it doesn't help Amla against Bumrah who goes for a cheap 6 runs. Then Faf French cuts his first ball for four - very lucky not to chop on, which would be close to "game over" very early in the piece.

                                      Bumrah must be a nightmare to face with that staccato run-up and then the pace from the whip of the arm.

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                                        de Kock gone cheaply as well - caught in the slips. 24/2

                                        Not showing much steel - Steyn-less steel. No Ngidi either.

                                        Where's my coat! 🙂

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                                          I've said it before and I'll say it again. Everything about Bumrah is wrong.

                                          His action says "first change for the 2s" but he's a gun. The speed gun says late-130s but he has even the best batsmen jumping around. Just wrong.

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