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Blues 2019

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  • K kev

    @nzzp I think you have to be realistic and say the Blues have made no progress. At times they have looked much better but the table is the real answer.

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    @kev said in Blues 2019:

    @nzzp I think you have to be realistic and say the Blues have made no progress. At times they have looked much better but the table is the real answer.

    You're a harsh marker.

    The real measure is arguably NZ teams.

    Split the series against the Chiefs and Highlanders
    Dominated but lost against the Canes at home
    Were a missed goal kick against splitting the series against Canterbury (but outclassed down there)

    I'd say that's some progress, from our record under JK and Tana. The Chiefs at home were amazing - some absolutely low percentage tries that came off, and we didn't quite have enough.

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      @kev says something when their most consistent performers have been a rookie and a veteran All Black ..!

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      @Steven-Harris said in Blues 2019:

      @kev says something when their most consistent performers have been a rookie and a veteran All Black ..!

      Huh? Nanai is neither of these.

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        @Steven-Harris said in Blues 2019:

        @kev says something when their most consistent performers have been a rookie and a veteran All Black ..!

        Huh? Nanai is neither of these.

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        @KiwiMurph only really came up with those 2 because they had been mentioned as possible RWC contenders not that I ever realistically thought they were real possibilities..
        Nanai probably comes into the conversation..but I do think both Robinson & Nonu have been the most consistent.

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        • S Steven Harris

          @KiwiMurph only really came up with those 2 because they had been mentioned as possible RWC contenders not that I ever realistically thought they were real possibilities..
          Nanai probably comes into the conversation..but I do think both Robinson & Nonu have been the most consistent.

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          @Steven-Harris Nonu? I assumed you meant Ofa for the veteran All Black.

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            I thought he meant Tuipulotu.

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              Did he mean James Parsons, All Black?

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              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                @Steven-Harris Nonu? I assumed you meant Ofa for the veteran All Black.

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                @KiwiMurph haha..!,definitely a Blues veteran ..!

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                • nzzpN nzzp

                  Did he mean James Parsons, All Black?

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                  @nzzp said in Blues 2019:

                  Did he mean James Parsons, All Black?

                  He's definitely consistent!

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                  • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                    @nzzp said in Blues 2019:

                    Did he mean James Parsons, All Black?

                    He's definitely consistent!

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                    @Crazy-Horse consistently shit.

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                    • nzzpN nzzp

                      @kev said in Blues 2019:

                      @nzzp I think you have to be realistic and say the Blues have made no progress. At times they have looked much better but the table is the real answer.

                      You're a harsh marker.

                      The real measure is arguably NZ teams.

                      Split the series against the Chiefs and Highlanders
                      Dominated but lost against the Canes at home
                      Were a missed goal kick against splitting the series against Canterbury (but outclassed down there)

                      I'd say that's some progress, from our record under JK and Tana. The Chiefs at home were amazing - some absolutely low percentage tries that came off, and we didn't quite have enough.

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                      @nzzp I was positive for most of the season noting the close ones but they kept losing them with senior players making dumb decisions but the performance against the Reds ends the discussion with a thud.

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                        There are going to be some personnel changes, that's just natural, every year there are going to be some. We've got our six or so [leaving], but now we've got a good understanding of where we feel we need to bolster, we can go and attack that area.

                        Nanai
                        Moulds
                        Tupou
                        Pulu
                        SBW
                        Nonu
                        Scrafton

                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/113518094/super-rugby-blues-coach-leon-macdonald-hints-at-sonny-bill-williams-and-maa-nonu-departures

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                        • TimT Tim

                          There are going to be some personnel changes, that's just natural, every year there are going to be some. We've got our six or so [leaving], but now we've got a good understanding of where we feel we need to bolster, we can go and attack that area.

                          Nanai
                          Moulds
                          Tupou
                          Pulu
                          SBW
                          Nonu
                          Scrafton

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/113518094/super-rugby-blues-coach-leon-macdonald-hints-at-sonny-bill-williams-and-maa-nonu-departures

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                          @Tim said in Blues 2019:

                          There are going to be some personnel changes, that's just natural, every year there are going to be some. We've got our six or so [leaving], but now we've got a good understanding of where we feel we need to bolster, we can go and attack that area.

                          Nanai
                          Moulds
                          Tupou
                          Pulu
                          SBW
                          Nonu
                          Scrafton

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/113518094/super-rugby-blues-coach-leon-macdonald-hints-at-sonny-bill-williams-and-maa-nonu-departures

                          I hope it's more than those seven

                          It was a flawed squad and there was a reluctance to use the 2nd tier of players. If the coach doesn't rate those guys they should not get extensions.. we'd be better off with rookies.

                          Is Apisai's contract up? Surely there needs to be more changes at halfback than just Pulu going?

                          I know he was barely seen but Jed Brown would be a pointless extension. An older openside who doesn't even offer experience at this level. We'd be better off with Sione Havili or Choat.. guys that may have a high ceiling

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                          • DuluthD Duluth

                            @Tim said in Blues 2019:

                            There are going to be some personnel changes, that's just natural, every year there are going to be some. We've got our six or so [leaving], but now we've got a good understanding of where we feel we need to bolster, we can go and attack that area.

                            Nanai
                            Moulds
                            Tupou
                            Pulu
                            SBW
                            Nonu
                            Scrafton

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/113518094/super-rugby-blues-coach-leon-macdonald-hints-at-sonny-bill-williams-and-maa-nonu-departures

                            I hope it's more than those seven

                            It was a flawed squad and there was a reluctance to use the 2nd tier of players. If the coach doesn't rate those guys they should not get extensions.. we'd be better off with rookies.

                            Is Apisai's contract up? Surely there needs to be more changes at halfback than just Pulu going?

                            I know he was barely seen but Jed Brown would be a pointless extension. An older openside who doesn't even offer experience at this level. We'd be better off with Sione Havili or Choat.. guys that may have a high ceiling

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                            African Monkey
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                            @Duluth Jed Brown was a stupid signing. Injury prone and no better than players we already have in the region. Havili looked very good in the 1 opportunity he got against the Rebels last year but hasn't been sighted since and probably won't be sighted for the Blues again. Wouldn't suprise me if we extended Brown's deal with our track record of keeping dead wood.

                            Collins should be added to that list along with Duffie. Ruru and Apisai might get extensions due to lack of options out there but I wouldn't care if the were given the flick along with Josh Goodhue.

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                              @Duluth Jed Brown was a stupid signing. Injury prone and no better than players we already have in the region. Havili looked very good in the 1 opportunity he got against the Rebels last year but hasn't been sighted since and probably won't be sighted for the Blues again. Wouldn't suprise me if we extended Brown's deal with our track record of keeping dead wood.

                              Collins should be added to that list along with Duffie. Ruru and Apisai might get extensions due to lack of options out there but I wouldn't care if the were given the flick along with Josh Goodhue.

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                              Tim
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                              @African-Monkey Havili didn't play rugby again until about a month ago. Looking forward to seeing him in the NPC.

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                              • TimT Tim

                                @African-Monkey Havili didn't play rugby again until about a month ago. Looking forward to seeing him in the NPC.

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                                African Monkey
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                                @Tim That's true, but last season he should have been given more of an opportunity, and as @Duluth said, we also have Adrian Choat floating around so there really was no need to sign Jed Brown.

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                                  When was the last season the Blues didn't finish last in the NZ conference? Perennial underachievers.

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                                    When was the last season the Blues didn't finish last in the NZ conference? Perennial underachievers.

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                                    Machpants
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                                    @sparky said in Blues 2019:

                                    When was the last season the Blues didn't finish last in the NZ conference? Perennial underachievers.

                                    2013 I think

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                                    • M Machpants

                                      @sparky said in Blues 2019:

                                      When was the last season the Blues didn't finish last in the NZ conference? Perennial underachievers.

                                      2013 I think

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                                      Hooroo
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                                      @Machpants said in Blues 2019:

                                      @sparky said in Blues 2019:

                                      When was the last season the Blues didn't finish last in the NZ conference? Perennial underachievers.

                                      2013 I think

                                      Ha ha. That’s gold. All the success and now being mirrored in reverse.

                                      I can’t see the crusaders letting that happen to them.

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                                      • HoorooH Hooroo

                                        @Machpants said in Blues 2019:

                                        @sparky said in Blues 2019:

                                        When was the last season the Blues didn't finish last in the NZ conference? Perennial underachievers.

                                        2013 I think

                                        Ha ha. That’s gold. All the success and now being mirrored in reverse.

                                        I can’t see the crusaders letting that happen to them.

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                                        Machpants
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                                        @Hooroo The Blues are still second to the Crusaders on most titles won, equal with the Bulls.

                                        Admittedly the last one was a wee while ago!

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                                          @Hooroo The Blues are still second to the Crusaders on most titles won, equal with the Bulls.

                                          Admittedly the last one was a wee while ago!

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                                          @Machpants said in Blues 2019:

                                          @Hooroo The Blues are still second to the Crusaders on most titles won, equal with the Bulls.

                                          Admittedly the last one was a wee while ago!

                                          That’s my point and what I find funny. Blues have had untold success. Now they are a laughing stock of rugby.

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