Crusaders v Rebels
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More than harsh if Laumape misses out. More like criminal.
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@Canes4life said in Crusaders v Rebels:
In replace of who though? Man we have some talent in NZ atm.
My backs atm are: Smith, Perenara, Hall, Barrett, Mo'unga, Leinert-Brown, Laumape, Goodhue, Crotty, Ioane, Bridge, Barrett, Smith, assuming they go with 13 backs - add in Ennor if they take 14.
That would be my ABs Baxka Lisr IF they were taking 13
BUT I'd rather have Weber over Hall
Naholo will pay price for going to England has no future for ABs
Ennor is a player I rate very early
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@Higgins said in Crusaders v Rebels:
And even better the Crusaders have to fork out cash to the visiting team. Apart from taking four competition points from them there is nothing more pleasurable than receiving a nice cash handout from them.
This is one of the ways in which our dump of a stadium hurts us. I think it was last year when we barely made a buck from three home finals games, topped off by having to pay a large share of the Lions' costs. Even with temporary seating (extra that is, because it's important to differentiate between temporary and really temporary when it comes to this dump) it only seats around 22,000. The capacity just isn't great enough to make good coin. Maybe this year if we host the final the ticket price will be higher. Wouldn't surprise me.
This is another argument for having a much larger capacity in the new stadium. A state of the art 35,000 - 40,000 seater without a roof would still attract punters for the novelty of having a cool, comfortable stadium, and the capacity would maximise the benefit of hosting big games.
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@shark the real issue is you are victims of your own success though.
Even with a big shiny new stadium, would you get significantly higher numbers for all the finals?
I mean chances are you will have the Rebels here again for the 1st round, would that be enough of a drawcard to get punters through the gates, knowing that you just pumped them, and then the next week would likely be a bigger more competitive match and again, if they win that, the final.
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@Steven-Harris said in Crusaders v Rebels:
Well said from the commentators, you would think after 8 years we have moved on from booing Quade Cooper..seriously people..!
Disagree. Sport is theatre and the paying fans like to be involved and Quade has made himself the villain. Some could even say it is a mark of respect and Cooper is probably not bothered in the slightest.
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@Machpants said in Crusaders v Rebels:
I also remember prior to the quake, Christchurch was the only place the ABs test didn't always sell out - so is the demand there, long term?
I think Jade/AMI Stadium had a capacity of approx 38,000 in 2010. That year we hosted the Wallabies. The brand new Deans Stand was unofficially re-named the Henry stand for the night. The ground was sold out. Prior to that the capacity was greater - possibly closer to 45,000 which at more than 10% of the population was possibly a little high and some tests may not have sold out.
Our population now is greater than pre-quakes and at a function I attended last year a senior CCC official predicted our population would be 750,000 by the middle of this century.
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@Machpants said in Crusaders v Rebels:
I also remember prior to the quake, Christchurch was the only place the ABs test didn't always sell out - so is the demand there, long term?
Sad isn't it? I remember provincial rugby sell outs
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@taniwharugby said in Crusaders v Rebels:
@shark the real issue is you are victims of your own success though.
Even with a big shiny new stadium, would you get significantly higher numbers for all the finals?
I mean chances are you will have the Rebels here again for the 1st round, would that be enough of a drawcard to get punters through the gates, knowing that you just pumped them, and then the next week would likely be a bigger more competitive match and again, if they win that, the final.
You're 100% correct. A re-match with the Rebels would be a terrible prospect and the turn-out would no doubt be poor. But under the same circumstances in any comparable competition in the world, this would be the case.
The flip side is, if the Chiefs burgle eighth spot we could see a really good turn-out. In fact I'd be disappointed if we didn't. They beat us last start and it'd be a game we could realistically lose, so people should turn out.
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@shark said in Crusaders v Rebels:
You're 100% correct. A re-match with the Rebels would be a terrible prospect and the turn-out would no doubt be poor. But under the same circumstances in any comparable competition in the world, this would be the case.
appreciate that, but point was if you had the bigger better stadium, would that see more people come along to watch another flogging?
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@taniwharugby said in Crusaders v Rebels:
@shark said in Crusaders v Rebels:
You're 100% correct. A re-match with the Rebels would be a terrible prospect and the turn-out would no doubt be poor. But under the same circumstances in any comparable competition in the world, this would be the case.
appreciate that, but point was if you had the bigger better stadium, would that see more people come along to watch another flogging?
In general, yes. You're ony talking about one hypothetical game.
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@Nevorian said in Crusaders v Rebels:
Also the brand new roofed Forsyth Barr stadium never guaranteed sell out crowds, possibly for the first 12 months and World Cup but not now so probably similar with a new stadium in ChCh likely to be the case
We have 3-4 times the population of Dunedin. And a fifth of their population is students.
The novelty of a new stadium would all but guarantee big crowds even to crap games for a start. The crowds at FBS for Otago games in the 2011 NPC were substantial and they suck.
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@shark yet you are talking about the existing stadium holding you back from having these hypothetical huge crowds more often.
I expect most games in round 1 of the finals series will attract poor crowds with the probability of the Crusaders playing the following week and the one after being high, people holding out for the higher quality opposition if they choose 1 or 2 games rather than attending all 3
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@taniwharugby Isn't it generally the expectation that a new stadium will attract a bigger crowd because of the better facilities and - possibly - a roof? That's assuming that people are now staying away because of the crappy stadium and may turn up if the new stadium is considerably better? So regardless of which game is being played?
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@Stargazer of course, but i thought shark was talking generally the existing stadium was holding them back, not just the period after a new stadium was opened.
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@SammyC said in Crusaders v Rebels:
Lol they haven’t served Tui at the stadium for several years. True supporters would know that from actually attending games.
Really? I don't know what beer they sell at McLean Park for Magpies games so does that mean I'm not a true supporter? I do however know what beer they serve at Brookvale so I must be a true Manly/Tahs supporter then? :face_with_stuck-out_tongue_winking_eye:
