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  • MN5M Offline
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    @booboo said in Woo:

    The mind of the anti-vaxxer.

    The history does show the lunacy didn't start with Wakefield. It seems to me Wakefield coincided with the ability to spread misinformation on the net.

    Enjoy this trip down the rabbit hole

    Anti-vaxxer capital of Australia was once a hippie town | Stuff.co.nz
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/well-good/113337413/antivaxxer-capital-of-australia-was-once-a-hippie-town

    I do like this bit:

    The idea of developing "natural immunity" has huge appeal. Many locals believe that not vaccinating has made the whole community healthier. (This is incorrect: figures from the Australian Institute of Health and Welfare show that life expectancy, child mortality and rates of all cancers are worse in this region than the national averages.)

    That is the fattest fucken Vegan I've ever seen

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    @booboo said in Woo:

    The mind of the anti-vaxxer.

    The history does show the lunacy didn't start with Wakefield. It seems to me Wakefield coincided with the ability to spread misinformation on the net.

    Enjoy this trip down the rabbit hole

    Anti-vaxxer capital of Australia was once a hippie town | Stuff.co.nz
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/well-good/113337413/antivaxxer-capital-of-australia-was-once-a-hippie-town

    I do like this bit:

    The idea of developing "natural immunity" has huge appeal. Many locals believe that not vaccinating has made the whole community healthier. (This is incorrect: figures from the Australian Institute of Health and Welfare show that life expectancy, child mortality and rates of all cancers are worse in this region than the national averages.)

    Darwinism will weed out these morons

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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=12238650

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    @canefan it won't, cos they then go to hospital, get treated and survive.

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    @canefan and its the kids (and other people too) that suffer for their parents numpty-ness. Which is the really shit part of it all. If it only impacted the person making the dumb decision etc, then fill ya boots and see ya later. That would work for drunk driving too!

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    @canefan said in Woo:

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=12238650

    Hang a poster here assured me that Smallpox was no longer an issue due to improved hygiene not vaccines?

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    Unfortunately midwifery seems to attract these sorts of dangerous loons.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/113368510/midwife-ignores-pregnant-womans-request-for-pain-relief-in-labour

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    @jegga not sure that is entirely fair...this is an industry where part of thier pay is driven by them delivering a baby or less pay if the Dr has to do it.

    Most people I know have nothing but utmost admiration and respect for thiers, with the care and mum and baby at the forefront of everything, however I think like with anything, there will be some nutters, and this one sounds like a dumbarse.

    I heard they were saying she may need re-training and to go over the processes...I suspect lack of knowledge about how to birth is least of her problems...makes you wonder how many she has gotten away with giving placebos.

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    @taniwharugby said in Woo:

    @jegga not sure that is entirely fair...this is an industry where part of thier pay is driven by them delivering a baby or less pay if the Dr has to do it.

    Most people I know have nothing but utmost admiration and respect for thiers, with the care and mum and baby at the forefront of everything, however I think like with anything, there will be some nutters, and this one sounds like a dumbarse.

    I heard they were saying she may need re-training and to go over the processes...I suspect lack of knowledge about how to birth is least of her problems...makes you wonder how many she has gotten away with giving placebos.

    Yeah have to agree with TR on this, the ones my ex and I had were absolutely awesome. In fact my ex wanted to become one but time/our boys etc meant she never had the opportunity.

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    @taniwharugby said in Woo:

    @jegga not sure that is entirely fair...this is an industry where part of thier pay is driven by them delivering a baby or less pay if the Dr has to do it.

    Most people I know have nothing but utmost admiration and respect for thiers, with the care and mum and baby at the forefront of everything, however I think like with anything, there will be some nutters, and this one sounds like a dumbarse.

    I heard they were saying she may need re-training and to go over the processes...I suspect lack of knowledge about how to birth is least of her problems...makes you wonder how many she has gotten away with giving placebos.

    It would be unfair if I said all of them are dangerous nutters, a decent minority are anti vaxx, militant about homebirths , anti science and other dangerous quackery . The one we used was good, I know other people who came across these sorts of loons.

    This loon was behind getting Helen Clark when she was health minister to kick the dr out of the delivery room and midwifes being in charge of home births, she was also an anti vaxxer, anti science and a socialist '

    https://teara.govt.nz/en/biographies/6d2/donley-joan-elsahttps:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/parenting/68674972/

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=11507845

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11873050

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    Not sure if this was covered in the Reddit video above

    64701371_2894435877244071_7112238432247611392_o.jpg

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    @NTA so good aye!!

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  • jeggaJ Offline
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    Silly cow did her research on the internet, he needs to do research on the internet of getting custody of his daughter.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/113923670/vaccination-row-auckland-parents-take-fight-over-daughters-immunisation-to-court

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    @jegga her case included genetic testing by a naturopath. What else do you need? From👏 A👏 Nat 👏ur👏 o👏 path👏.

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    So the homeopath had no "published credibility"

    Really?

    "Published" is redundant in that sentence anyway.

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    @JC said in Woo:

    @jegga her case included genetic testing by a naturopath. What else do you need? From👏 A👏 Nat 👏ur👏 o👏 path👏.

    I think you'll find its spelled 👏 ly👏 ing👏 shy👏 ster👏 cu👏 nt

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  • jeggaJ Offline
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    "Hes not prescribing drugs" No the crook is prescribing water . This explains the scam quite nicely http://darryl-cunningham.blogspot.com/2010/06/homeopathy.html

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/113975123/auckland-homeopath-could-mislead-patients-by-using-doctor-title--ministry

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  • boobooB Offline
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    The man contradicts himself:

    "We use homeopathic remedies. I am trying to help the people."

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    @booboo isnt there evidence about the use of placebo's works on some ailments and/or people?

    HAve to assume some of those same people are the ones who are likely to benefit from pretend Dr's?

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    There is evidence that homeopathy doesn't even work as well as placebo.

    Read 'Bad Science' by Ben Goldacre

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