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They were some of Wellington's best school talent at the time. St Pats Town won the premiership and they were all instrumental in that campaign. Whether they go on and achieve higher honours or not is irrelevant - at the end of the day they were some of Wellington's best school kids that year and you guys got your mits on them.
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.@Canes4life said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
@Nepia the majority were all promising players out of St Pats Town. Probably says alot about Hawkes Bay and their inability to develop players properly more than anything. No wonder you guys fail to attract talent.
Proof that that the Bay can develop young talent into good pro and semi-pro (NPC) rugby players, who get or will get regular starts/game time for the Magpies and some of whom have SR contracts (or - in Emerson's case - has played for AB7s Development):
Folau Fakatava, Jonah Lowe, Tiaan Falcon, Devan Flanders, Marino Mikaele-Tu'u, Danny Toala, Kianu Kereru-Symes, Lincoln McClutchie, Mason Emerson, Pouri Rakete-Stones, and - of course - older players like Gareth Evans and Brad Weber. All of them went to school in Hawke's Bay and played age grade rugby for us. And that's only examples of players who are still playing for/in the Bay. And more are coming: Josiah Tavita-Metcalfe, Jacob Devery, Tim Farrell, Will Tremain etc. And then there's the return of Caleb Makene. I wouldn't mind a few others coming home, too ...
We have gaps in our squad that can't be filled locally, so that's why some players from other provinces (who often tried - but failed - to get selected in their home province's academy or Mitre 10 cup squad) come try their luck in the Bay and some manage to make it into the squad for a year or two, but not often with much success.
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This is the November 2015 article on Brighouse, Donaldson and Nelson-Murray signing for Hawke's Bay.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/sport/college-sport/73839362/
Michael Buckley is a Hawke's Bay boy, went to Napier BHS and played for Hawke's Bay Under 18 team in 2013 at flanker.
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@Canes4life You provided 4 names after claiming HB had been taking the best of Wellington’s talent. They’re clearly not the best of Wellington’s talent if they left the Canes home province and are struggling to get starts for the Magpies.
@Nepia said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
@Canes4life You provided 4 names after claiming HB had been taking the best of Wellington’s talent. They’re clearly not the best of Wellington’s talent if they left the Canes home province and are struggling to get starts for the Magpies.
Maybe the best of the hitherto unproven (or should that read as anwanted) young talent coming out of the Bay is better than that coming out of Wellington?
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LOL at this:
.@Canes4life said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
@Nepia the majority were all promising players out of St Pats Town. Probably says alot about Hawkes Bay and their inability to develop players properly more than anything. No wonder you guys fail to attract talent.
Proof that that the Bay can develop young talent into good pro and semi-pro (NPC) rugby players, who get or will get regular starts/game time for the Magpies and some of whom have SR contracts (or - in Emerson's case - has played for AB7s Development):
Folau Fakatava, Jonah Lowe, Tiaan Falcon, Devan Flanders, Marino Mikaele-Tu'u, Danny Toala, Kianu Kereru-Symes, Lincoln McClutchie, Mason Emerson, Pouri Rakete-Stones, and - of course - older players like Gareth Evans and Brad Weber. All of them went to school in Hawke's Bay and played age grade rugby for us. And that's only examples of players who are still playing for/in the Bay. And more are coming: Josiah Tavita-Metcalfe, Jacob Devery, Tim Farrell, Will Tremain etc. And then there's the return of Caleb Makene. I wouldn't mind a few others coming home, too ...
We have gaps in our squad that can't be filled locally, so that's why some players from other provinces (who often tried - but failed - to get selected in their home province's academy or Mitre 10 cup squad) come try their luck in the Bay and some manage to make it into the squad for a year or two, but not often with much success.
@Stargazer said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
We have gaps in our squad that can't be filled locally, so that's why some players from other provinces (who often tried - but failed - to get selected in their home province's academy or Mitre 10 cup squad) come try their luck in the Bay and some manage to make it into the squad for a year or two, but not often with much success.
Is this a not so subtle dig at those guys that turn up from Auckland in particular that get given contracts but fail to set the world on fire. I am talking about backs in particular. I see we have still got one signed up but he did appear to have slightly more goning for him than a lot of the others.
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@Stargazer said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
We have gaps in our squad that can't be filled locally, so that's why some players from other provinces (who often tried - but failed - to get selected in their home province's academy or Mitre 10 cup squad) come try their luck in the Bay and some manage to make it into the squad for a year or two, but not often with much success.
Is this a not so subtle dig at those guys that turn up from Auckland in particular that get given contracts but fail to set the world on fire. I am talking about backs in particular. I see we have still got one signed up but he did appear to have slightly more goning for him than a lot of the others.
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@Stargazer I note the Joe 'Apikatoa has been backl playing club rugby for the last couple of weeks and the other player you are probably referring to is also playing club rugby but on the flank and not the hooking position that he held a HB contract for. Incidentally Marvan Karawana started the season playing in the backs moved to the blindside flank and is now back playing premier club rugby in the midfield.
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@Stargazer If we have poached so many players, who are they? Last I looked the likes of Aumua, Fidow, Numia, Savea, Perenara, Garden Bachop (brothers), Umaga Jensen (twins), Proctor, Coles, Toomaga Allen, Goosen all grew up in Wellington. I really don't get your point. I think you just like having a whinge.
@Canes4life said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
@Stargazer If we have poached so many players, who are they? Last I looked the likes of Aumua, Fidow, Numia, Savea, Perenara, Garden Bachop (brothers), Umaga Jensen (twins), Proctor, Coles, Toomaga Allen, Goosen all grew up in Wellington. I really don't get your point. I think you just like having a whinge.
Wasn't one of them poached from the Melbourne Rebels?
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@Stargazer I note the Joe 'Apikatoa has been backl playing club rugby for the last couple of weeks and the other player you are probably referring to is also playing club rugby but on the flank and not the hooking position that he held a HB contract for. Incidentally Marvan Karawana started the season playing in the backs moved to the blindside flank and is now back playing premier club rugby in the midfield.
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@Higgins Karawana...is that fella still running about, I remember when he was up this way being looked at (eventually looked over)
@taniwharugby Yes he is. You dodged a bullet there, sadly one that Mr. Philpott did not.
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@Nepia said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
@Canes4life You provided 4 names after claiming HB had been taking the best of Wellington’s talent. They’re clearly not the best of Wellington’s talent if they left the Canes home province and are struggling to get starts for the Magpies.
Maybe the best of the hitherto unproven (or should that read as anwanted) young talent coming out of the Bay is better than that coming out of Wellington?
@Higgins said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
@Nepia said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
@Canes4life You provided 4 names after claiming HB had been taking the best of Wellington’s talent. They’re clearly not the best of Wellington’s talent if they left the Canes home province and are struggling to get starts for the Magpies.
Maybe the best of the hitherto unproven (or should that read as anwanted) young talent coming out of the Bay is better than that coming out of Wellington?
Yeah, those three Wellingtonians seem to have been surpassed by young HB talent already.
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@Canes4life said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
@Stargazer If we have poached so many players, who are they? Last I looked the likes of Aumua, Fidow, Numia, Savea, Perenara, Garden Bachop (brothers), Umaga Jensen (twins), Proctor, Coles, Toomaga Allen, Goosen all grew up in Wellington. I really don't get your point. I think you just like having a whinge.
Wasn't one of them poached from the Melbourne Rebels?
@Higgins lol this is such a bait.
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I have always had a soft spot for him after he coached my whangai at Wairarapa-Bush and more so after his efforts with the Magpies but this is certainly testing that to the extreme.
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@Stargazer you can add Sione Havili to that list as well. Signed for 3 years.
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@Stargazer said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
they'll have a sizey front row with Moli as well then!
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More Manawatu signings:
Former Canterbury prop Samu Tawake, experienced midfielder Hamish Northcott, rising star outside back Ben Werthmuller and club rugby standout Johnny Galloway all locked in for 2019!Upcoming Manawatu preseason matches:
July 3:
Hakes Bay Saracens v Manawatu Evergreens
McLean Park, 6pmJuly 10
Manawatu Evergreens v NZDF
Central Energy Trust Arena, 2pmJuly 19
Taranaki v Manawatu Evergreens
Hicks Park, Hawera, 6pmJuly 28
Manawatu Evergreens v Wellington
Kimbolton, 2pm -
More Manawatu signings:
Former Canterbury prop Samu Tawake, experienced midfielder Hamish Northcott, rising star outside back Ben Werthmuller and club rugby standout Johnny Galloway all locked in for 2019!Upcoming Manawatu preseason matches:
July 3:
Hakes Bay Saracens v Manawatu Evergreens
McLean Park, 6pmJuly 10
Manawatu Evergreens v NZDF
Central Energy Trust Arena, 2pmJuly 19
Taranaki v Manawatu Evergreens
Hicks Park, Hawera, 6pmJuly 28
Manawatu Evergreens v Wellington
Kimbolton, 2pm@Stargazer said in Mitre 10 Cup - news, injuries etc:
More Manawatu signings:
Former Canterbury prop Samu Tawake, experienced midfielder Hamish Northcott, rising star outside back Ben Werthmuller and club rugby standout Johnny Galloway all locked in for 2019!Upcoming Manawatu preseason matches:
July 3:
Hakes Bay Saracens v Manawatu Evergreens
McLean Park, 6pmJuly 10
Manawatu Evergreens v NZDF
Central Energy Trust Arena, 2pmJuly 19
Taranaki v Manawatu Evergreens
Hicks Park, Hawera, 6pmJuly 28
Manawatu Evergreens v Wellington
Kimbolton, 2pmThat's taking the game to the Provinces
