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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    I see a lot of short-term thinking in some of the reactions. The Blues would sign an aging All Black (Barrett will be 30 years and 9 months at the beginning of the 2022 SR season), who hasn't played SR for two years. He won't get better during his two years absence, to put it mildly.

    In 2020 and 2021, the Blues would - presumably - stick with at least two of Plummer, Black and Perofeta. In those two years - you'd hope - these players develop into better players than they are now. One of them might end up becoming the incumbent no. 10.

    And then - boom - Barrett comes into the squad in 2022. Is he going to get that starting 10 jersey based on past glory, or does he actually have to earn it? So that incumbent of 2021, whoever it is, suddenly drops to the bench? And his back-up drops out of the 23 and will only be used for rotation or injury cover? Good chance that at least two of those three that have played in 2020-21 will leave.

    And then, when it's 2024, Barrett leaves or retires. You've only one of those original 3 from 2020-21 left. Maybe one or two young rookies, who've maybe trained with Barrett during the previous years and learned a few tricks from the old dog.

    What have the Blues actually gained? They've had two years with an aging All Black, which by no means guarantees a better performance of the Blues at all, because one player cannot carry the team and other crucial players may have left (one or two of the Ioanes, for example; or Tuipulotu etc). The Blues will probably have lost one or two players they developed in previous years. If they're lucking, they've still one of those players left, and a few rookies. Whoopee, what a progress!

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    @Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

    In 2020 and 2021, the Blues would - presumably - stick with at least two of Plummer, Black and Perofeta. In those two years - you'd hope - these players develop into better players than they are now. One of them might end up becoming the incumbent no. 10.

    ...and then signing for Castres and London Irish respectively. Even at this early stage none show signs of being a real incumbent AB first five and they are the only players the NZRU will throw money at to keep in the country.

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      https://twitter.com/JimKayes/status/1144055026559569920

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        Get in!

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          https://twitter.com/HeelSam/status/1144058796215427072

          Appears that Cooper is on his way to a promotion.............

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            #BREAKING The @radiosportnz  Breakfast can confirm Warren Gatland will coach @ChiefsRugby in 2020, 2022 and 2023, with a year off to coach the British and Irish Lions in 2021.
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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph
              #BREAKING The @radiosportnz  Breakfast can confirm Warren Gatland will coach @ChiefsRugby in 2020, 2022 and 2023, with a year off to coach the British and Irish Lions in 2021.
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              @KiwiMurph boom! Wow, great result for NZ rugby I think, having him back in the fold

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                @KiwiMurph boom! Wow, great result for NZ rugby I think, having him back in the fold

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                @nzzp yeah great news, and then he's there as standby with Schmidt if whomever takes over from Hansen is ar$e

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                  Great news. Wonder when the Schmidt news gets announced...

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                    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/nrl-star-solomone-kata-tipped-for-code-switch-to-union

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                    • TimT Tim

                      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/nrl-star-solomone-kata-tipped-for-code-switch-to-union

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                      @Tim It would be cruel to suggest that he was going to the Magpies and Chiefs right?

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                      • TimT Tim

                        https://www.rugbypass.com/news/nrl-star-solomone-kata-tipped-for-code-switch-to-union

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                        @Tim needs to sharpen up on his defence if he is to make a code shift.

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                          Rugby involves passing the ball, so he’ll be a flop.

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                            wasn't sure where to put this.

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/113917422/super-rugby-new-south-wales-and-wallabies-jostle-for-dave-rennie-signature

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                            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                              wasn't sure where to put this.

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/113917422/super-rugby-new-south-wales-and-wallabies-jostle-for-dave-rennie-signature

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                              @KiwiMurph

                              You'd be dead to me Rennie.

                              I reckon it's a beat up anyway.

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                              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                wasn't sure where to put this.

                                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/113917422/super-rugby-new-south-wales-and-wallabies-jostle-for-dave-rennie-signature

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                                @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby News:

                                wasn't sure where to put this.

                                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/113917422/super-rugby-new-south-wales-and-wallabies-jostle-for-dave-rennie-signature

                                If true, it's like battered wife syndrome.

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                                  James O’Connor set to make Wallabies return after taking steps to finalise a long-term deal with Queensland Reds

                                  Shipped to the Waratahs before the season starts.

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                                    James O’Connor set to make Wallabies return after taking steps to finalise a long-term deal with Queensland Reds

                                    Shipped to the Waratahs before the season starts.

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                                    @Tim FFS

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                                      James O’Connor set to make Wallabies return after taking steps to finalise a long-term deal with Queensland Reds

                                      Shipped to the Waratahs before the season starts.

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                                      @Tim said in Super Rugby News:

                                      James O’Connor set to make Wallabies return after taking steps to finalise a long-term deal with Queensland Reds

                                      Shipped to the Waratahs before the season starts.

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                                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12248876

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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12248876

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                                          @KiwiMurph Beauden might inspire the Blues to the dizzy heights of 4th in the NZ conference next year.

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