Electric Vehicles
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@Machpants years ago on TV here in Oz, there was a show called Beyond 2000. They went to Europe (UK?) to look at a bunch who were experimenting with sound wave suppression.
The concept: measure the sound in "real time", create an anti-wave, and have the two cancel each other out. Was designed to minimise cabin noise, and they started out with a basic car engine.
They'd also programmed in various other engine sounds, so the shitty little hatch back they were driving around in could sound like a Ferrari V12 to the occupants!
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@NTA nice one.
A lot of the nice middle class folk we hang out with plan to have an electric as their next car. Have spent the last while driving aroudn in a plug in hybrid Prius. It's interesting - while only a 50km range or so, being able to charge at home means that the round town driving is stupidly cheap to run. Electrics are nice to drive too, very quiet. Basically, I thought I'd hate it, and didn't
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@nzzp PHEV will be the perfect blend of low-cost with available long range for a lot of people as their next car for the reasons you state.
I live about 7km from work and drive around 10km each way because kids school pickup/drop-off and other tasks.
But I'll wait until something fully electric with a bit of off-road ability lands here, as camping trips are still on the agenda.
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@NTA said in Electric Vehicles:
@nzzp PHEV will be the perfect blend of low-cost with available long range for a lot of people as their next car for the reasons you state.
I live about 7km from work and drive around 10km each way because kids school pickup/drop-off and other tasks.
But I'll wait until something fully electric with a bit of off-road ability lands here, as camping trips are still on the agenda.
I'm pushing my work to consider a Tesla 3 with autopilot at the moment. We have people doing some long trips regularly, where there are no alternatives to driving. Autopilot could be a really useful way to reduce fatigue, and allow some more use of time during the trip (phonecalls, etc). From an H+S point of view, and staff fatigue perspective, it could well be a no-brainer (and super cool, too :D)
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@nzzp said in Electric Vehicles:
@NTA said in Electric Vehicles:
@nzzp PHEV will be the perfect blend of low-cost with available long range for a lot of people as their next car for the reasons you state.
I live about 7km from work and drive around 10km each way because kids school pickup/drop-off and other tasks.
But I'll wait until something fully electric with a bit of off-road ability lands here, as camping trips are still on the agenda.
I'm pushing my work to consider a Tesla 3 with autopilot at the moment. We have people doing some long trips regularly, where there are no alternatives to driving. Autopilot could be a really useful way to reduce fatigue, and allow some more use of time during the trip (phonecalls, etc). From an H+S point of view, and staff fatigue perspective, it could well be a no-brainer (and super cool, too :D)
It blows me away that we are in an age where you can have that conversation and not be laughed at. Very very cool
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@Hooroo said in Electric Vehicles:
It blows me away that we are in an age where you can have that conversation and not be laughed at. Very very cool
I know, right.
H+S may well drive some fo this tech mainstream -- the cost of not doing it for people who do a lot of miles will be substantial.
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@nzzp said in Electric Vehicles:
@NTA nice one.
A lot of the nice middle class folk we hang out with plan to have an electric as their next car. Have spent the last while driving aroudn in a plug in hybrid Prius. It's interesting - while only a 50km range or so, being able to charge at home means that the round town driving is stupidly cheap to run. Electrics are nice to drive too, very quiet. Basically, I thought I'd hate it, and didn't
We had a Toyota CHR for a few days in Okinawa and the wife fell in love with it. Of everything on the market, she wants that for some reason. I must admit to driving whenever possible on the battery - just put a smile on my face being quiet and "saving the planet".
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I have friends, a couple, who live rural and work in town, they moved from Petrol to Electic and their fuel costs have dropped from nearly $300 per week to around $40-$80 as they charge overnight and have one of those cheap overnight deals.
They’ve been waiting on a Tesla for a couple of years and are getting it soon I think. Which they’re happy about as their current cars (not sure which brand - all boxes and four wheels to me) have short ranges so they’ve had to keep a petrol car for long trips.
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If I needed a town car, this would be a front runner.
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@antipodean suits the high density living requirement IMHO. Some great styling as well - have been watching it since Fully Charged Show previewed it.
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@antipodean also: companies like GoGet will be giving these sorts of vehicles serious consideration
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I drove an Audi eTron (full electric) yesterday as my old man is buying one. O for awesome. I've driven Teslas but this thing was just a really nice place to be (in comparison). Comfy, smooth, not particularly quick acceleration (for an electric) but massive torque so it felt faster. It is also a Quattro and the build quality is what you would expect in a $160,000 car. We did a quick analysis of the cost and it effectively will return him 10% on that investment. He is selling solar back to the grid at 7c per kw, so completely ripped off by the power company. A power wall / storage would help but the car works to fix that.
Weighs almost twice what my RS4 does, but C of G is so low and centered it handles better than most combustion types.
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Sydney metro trial of full electric buses starts today, includes one of ours. Which will kill it.
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@mariner4life said in Electric Vehicles:
Sydney metro trial of full electric buses starts today, includes one of ours. Which will kill it.
I was reading that the operating costs for a full EV bus running on the South Coast is better than half that of comparable diesel busses.
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@antipodean said in Electric Vehicles:
@mariner4life said in Electric Vehicles:
Sydney metro trial of full electric buses starts today, includes one of ours. Which will kill it.
I was reading that the operating costs for a full EV bus running on the South Coast is better than half that of comparable diesel busses.
that's our bus. And it's 30% of the running cost of a diesel
Servicing and maintenance is a 50% saving
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@Snowy probably not on your roads...
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@taniwharugby all depends actually - EVs are at their least effective on long drives with few stops or elevation changes. Cold weather reduces performance but that has to be seriously cold.
@Snowy The long range Model 3 is probably closer to 500km in real-world terms. The NEDC range is somewhat bullish.
