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  • SmudgeS Offline
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    #49

    <p>I watched some of the warm-up game between Tampa Bay and Cincinnati. Now THAT was an average game of football. The commentators were scathing of Tampa's execution, and they were up 14-0 at the time! That tells you something about the dross that the Bengals produced.</p>

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    <p>running with blockers would be a hard thing to get used to I reckon, having other players running at you and then watching for yours to run alongside/behind to deal to their defensive lines would be a new learning for your peripherals and spatial awareness.</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="511984" data-time="1440904385">
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    <p>running with blockers would be a hard thing to get used to I reckon, having other players running at you and then watching for yours to run alongside/behind to deal to their defensive lines would be a new learning for your peripherals and spatial awareness.</p>
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    <p>Not to mention you are wearing a helmet which takes away a decent amount of awareness of things to the side of you I'd imagine</p>

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    #52

    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/71624386/league-convert-jarryd-hayne-survives-first-roster-cut-at-the-san-francisco-49ers'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/71624386/league-convert-jarryd-hayne-survives-first-roster-cut-at-the-san-francisco-49ers</a></p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Survived the first cut.  Final cut on the 5th of September.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Man I hope he makes it.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>What courage to leave a sport as one of the top guys and probably one of the best paid to chance it in a completely differnt sport. Wicked self awareness! Love it!</p>

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    #53

    <p>Looking at the remaining RBs it seems likely Hayne will make the final 53 man roster, although it is a massive cut coming on Sept 5 when it drops from 75 to 53.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>My guess is the 49ers will have 5 - 6 running backs in the final squad.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p><strong>Carlos Hyde</strong> is the lead running back and <strong>Reggie Bush</strong> will be his back up. That means Reggie will arguably see lesser time on kick and punt returns which bodes well for Jarryd. <strong>Bruce Miller </strong>will be the blocking fullback for the side so he's in. <strong>Kendall Hunter</strong> and <strong>Mike Davis </strong>are similar sized players so both are probably fighting for the same spot. My guess is Davis makes the team and Hunter is cut. The other two RBs are <strong>Kendall Gaskins</strong> and fullback <strong>Trey Millard</strong>. Gaskins will be cut but Millard could make the squad as a back up fullback but my guess is he's gone. So <strong>Jarryd Hayne</strong> makes the squad as the 4th ranked RB and main kick and punt returner with Bush and wide receiver Bruce Ellington backing him up there.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>So looking at the RB position for the San Francisco 49ers:</p>
    <p>Lead: Hyde</p>
    <p>Back up: Bush</p>
    <p>3rd down: Davis</p>
    <p>Blocking: Miller</p>
    <p>Special Teams: Hayne</p>

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    #54

    <p>Gee, reading your post Sneak, it makes the position seem underwhelming to me.  I struggle to see how you could enjoy the sport more than the glam?</p>

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  • SneakdefreakS Offline
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <div> </div>
    <div><span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Gee, reading your post Sneak, it makes the position seem underwhelming to me.  <strong>I struggle to see how you could enjoy the sport more than the glam</strong>?</span></div>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>This from the man who enjoys watching midgets in pyjamas ride farm animals around a grass track.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I view American Football as my cricket. Takes forever, they wear helmets and pads, there are a lot of stats and half the team stands around doing nothing for most of the game. But it is enjoyable, I swear! (and fills in the NRL off season quite nicely)  :)</p>

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  • HoorooH Offline
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    #56

    <p>Sorry! I mean the players, not the audience.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I mean in a game how many opportunities would Hayne likely get to run the ball? That's what I mean bout enjoying the glamour of the sport more than  playing it. (if that makes sense)</p>

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    #57

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Sneakdefreak" data-cid="512755" data-time="1441068379">
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    <p>This from the man who enjoys watching midgets in pyjamas ride farm animals around a grass track.</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>Brilliant description!</p>

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  • SneakdefreakS Offline
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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">
    <p> </p>
    <p> </p>
    <span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">I mean in a game how many opportunities would Hayne likely get to run the ball?</span></blockquote>
    <p> </p>
    <p>More than the 3rd down back but less than the lead and back up RBs (Hyde should get 20-30 carries, Bush 10-12 carries). Playing on special teams means he'll get half a dozen chances but not as many as he would in rugby league (although he played on some awful Parramatta teams where he got zero ball).</p>

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    #59

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Sneakdefreak" data-cid="512755" data-time="1441068379">
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    <p>This from the man who enjoys watching midgets in pyjamas ride farm animals around a grass track.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I view American Football as my cricket. Takes forever, they wear helmets and pads, there are a lot of stats and half the team stands around doing nothing for most of the game. But it is enjoyable, I swear! (and fills in the NRL off season quite nicely)  :)</p>
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    <p>Don't get me wrong, I can see why the Audience like it. I like superbowl and watch it sometimes.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I was referring to the players like Hayne and wonder how much enjoyment they get out of the match in terms of actually playing</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>EDIT: Just seen your reply.  That's a few more than I thought</p>

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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    #60

    <p>I think if he can make Special Teams and then get the odd RB opportunity, we will see a bit of him. The average number of punts per team, per game last season was around the 5 mark. Some teams last season were above 6. He will get his opportunities if he makes it of course </p>

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    <p>Last season the 49ers were ranked 29th (out of 32) for average yards gained per punt return with 6.5 yards. Their longest was 23 yards. Either there's some bad blocking going on there or they had no one that could spot the gap and really take it.  Their kickoff return averages were pretty good though compared with the rest of the NFL, they were ranked 9th with an average of 24.5 yards per return.</p>

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  • SneakdefreakS Offline
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    <p>All the talk is about the Hayne Plane but we should be talking more about an Auckland boy who is with the Arizona Cardinals. Paul Lasike is a rookie fullback who was playing rugby for BYU before switching to American Football. Think he played for Waikato rugby rep teams too Hooroo.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>The Arizona Cardinals running back situation is more messy than the 49ers since they don't really have a lead RB at this point but Lasike is in competition with Robert Hughes for the blocking FB position.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>If he makes it he will be the third NZer to play in the NFL behind Riki Ellison and Dave Dixon.</p>

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  • NTAN Offline
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    <p>So at this point, if Hayne somehow doesn't make the 49ers someone else is likely to pick him up, yeah?</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="NTA" data-cid="513062" data-time="1441196627">
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    <p>So at this point, if Hayne somehow doesn't make the 49ers someone else is likely to pick him up, yeah?</p>
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    <p>Very likely IMHO, he's turning heads with his ESPN highlight reels</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Sneakdefreak" data-cid="513061" data-time="1441194913">
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    <p>All the talk is about the Hayne Plane but we should be talking more about an Auckland boy who is with the Arizona Cardinals. Paul Lasike is a rookie fullback who was playing rugby for BYU before switching to American Football. Think he played for Waikato rugby rep teams too Hooroo.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>The Arizona Cardinals running back situation is more messy than the 49ers since they don't really have a lead RB at this point but Lasike is in competition with Robert Hughes for the blocking FB position.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>If he makes it he will be the third NZer to play in the NFL behind Riki Ellison and Dave Dixon.</p>
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    </blockquote>
    <p>Only 3? I thought there was more, although a few were born in NZ and left pretty early - a couple of Island guys? Also does Ngai Tahu's Rhett Ellison not count as a NZer? (I assume he's visited at least ;)).</p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Sneakdefreak" data-cid="513061" data-time="1441194913">
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    <p>All the talk is about the Hayne Plane but we should be talking more about an Auckland boy who is with the Arizona Cardinals. Paul Lasike is a rookie fullback who was playing rugby for BYU before switching to American Football. Think he played for Waikato rugby rep teams too Hooroo.</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>I posted a link to an article about Lasike in the NFL 2014 thread.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/rugby/index.php/topic/40209-nfl-2014/page-12'>http://www.daimenhutchison.com/rugby/index.php/topic/40209-nfl-2014/page-12</a></p>

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    <p>Unbelievable, but true.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p><span style="font-size:18px;"><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://deadspin.com/judge-overturns-tom-bradys-suspension-1728456783'>Judge Overturns Tom Brady's Suspension </a></span></p>

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    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="red terror" data-cid="513255" data-time="1441292563">
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    <p>Unbelievable, but true.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p><span style="font-size:18px;"><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://deadspin.com/judge-overturns-tom-bradys-suspension-1728456783'>Judge Overturns Tom Brady's Suspension </a></span></p>
    </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p> </p>
    <p>The tinfoil hat wearers will be out in force shortly ... </p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Edit: On other fora, obviously</p>

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