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TRC: Pumas v All Blacks

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  • kiwiinmelbK Offline
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    #546

    After reading the thread, I’m warming to the thought of giving ardie, Sam and read a go, and I’m not bothered by who wears what numbers,

    Without that specialist dominant incumbent 6 we have become accustomed to, think there is a good argument for just getting your best players out on the park

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    • StargazerS Stargazer

      @gt12 Great write-up; also agree with @booboo 's comment. Just one comment from me about the stats used. I have compared the stats provided by Rugbypass, ESPN, SANZAAR and NZH (these come from OPTA), and Rugbypass is the clear outlier. I don't recommend using them. Overall, the SANZAAR stats and NZH/OPTA stats generally correspond with each other, and - with a few exceptions - ESPN, too. So I'd recommend the SANZAAR stats, because they're the most easily accessible.

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      #547

      @Stargazer

      Yep, for sure I'll avoid the rugbypass stats in my future re-watch posts - sadly, the UI is really nice on rugbypass, just the quality of the stats is poor.

      I'll take recommendations of players to watch too for future re-watch posts btw - this week I wasn't sure whether to focus on Jordie or Fifita, but I figured 6 is a bit more important than 11, given that it should have R. Ioane in it, unless all sorts of shit happens.

      I was also tempted to talk about Coltman, but since the story was pretty easy (great around the field, still can't f%&king throw) I avoided it.

      Patty T was another I should have watched for - I thought he was significantly better than Fifita, but that's a low bar - and he was replaced by Hemopo, indicating that they are still considering the two specialists, and a one or two in-betweeners breakdown. Honestly, apart from one good dominant tackle, I don't think that Pat T did himself any favors either - about 3 tackles with one miss in 57 minutes versus Hemopo's 3 and no misses in 23.

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        #548

        Playing Fifita was a waste of 60 minutes that could have been used to assess someone else. I can’t believe so close to a RWC that the selectors are still giving out trial games. We have SA, Australia and Tonga then it’s RWC. Not to mention the midfield.

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        • Billy TellB Billy Tell

          Playing Fifita was a waste of 60 minutes that could have been used to assess someone else. I can’t believe so close to a RWC that the selectors are still giving out trial games. We have SA, Australia and Tonga then it’s RWC. Not to mention the midfield.

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          #549

          @Billy-Tell My guess is Scott Barrett when fit will be the first-choice blindside. Fifita and Hemopo are in competition for the bench lock/blindside role.

          Read, Cane and Savea are certain to go to Japan. One or two of Jacobson or Papali'i or Frizzell or Todd will join them.

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          • mofitzy_M mofitzy_

            @Tim said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

            Not sure how this wasn't a card:

            https://i.imgur.com/VAPDfTI.gifv

            Looks bad - no arms at the very least. I'm guessing there are no better replays of the shot?

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            @mofitzy_

            It was a cardable offense, right in front of the ref. But it was also a foolish high-risk (potentially hospital) pass. I hate it when we shovel a pass along to a player in a worse position rather than take contact or take other options that don’t risk the player receiving the pass

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              #551

              Also re rugbypass. Their journalists aren't tho most clued in (though NZH and stuff aren't too much better). They posted an article about BBBR and there was some wrong stuff in there and and I pointed it out, it was something about how it was his 100th game for the Chiefs when it wasn't because they though he played against the BIL for the Chiefs. The reply from them was pissed off and I said check the team list. They then deleted the article and edited it 😂. Also I find they're clickbaity as all fuck.

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                #552

                This one is pretty good tho

                https://www.rugbypass.com/news/analysis-the-all-blacks-11th-hour-innovation-to-kill-off-northern-hemisphere-line-speed/

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                • M Machpants

                  This one is pretty good tho

                  https://www.rugbypass.com/news/analysis-the-all-blacks-11th-hour-innovation-to-kill-off-northern-hemisphere-line-speed/

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                  @Machpants said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                  This one is pretty good tho

                  https://www.rugbypass.com/news/analysis-the-all-blacks-11th-hour-innovation-to-kill-off-northern-hemisphere-line-speed/

                  Good article.

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                  • M Machpants

                    This one is pretty good tho

                    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/analysis-the-all-blacks-11th-hour-innovation-to-kill-off-northern-hemisphere-line-speed/

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                    #554

                    @Machpants great article, a good rebuff to those asking for Smith to be replaced.

                    Also made me think...is part of the reason the ABs turn the ball over so frequently (aimless kicking) down to not wanting to show too much of the game plan?

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                      No Quarter
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                      #555

                      @Bones yeah made me re-think. TJP is the better player in every other aspect but Smith's pass may just be key to unlocking the rush defense.

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                      • BonesB Bones

                        @Machpants great article, a good rebuff to those asking for Smith to be replaced.

                        Also made me think...is part of the reason the ABs turn the ball over so frequently (aimless kicking) down to not wanting to show too much of the game plan?

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                        @Bones I wouldn't put anything past Shag. His strategy in the group phase last time was the stroke of pure genius that saw us peak at the right time to take out France, SA and aussie in successive weeks

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                          Utter farce that cheeky got world coach that year, the RWC pool match tactics were genius by the abs

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