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TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98)

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  • WallyW Wally

    @akan004

    He’s not a doctor either.

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    @Wally said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

    @akan004

    He’s not a doctor either.

    Obviously he's had a word with the team doctor

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      @Wally said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

      @akan004

      He’s not a doctor either.

      Obviously he's had a word with the team doctor

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      @akan004 said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

      @Wally said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

      @akan004

      He’s not a doctor either.

      Obviously he's had a word with the team doctor

      The team doctor isn't a doctor either, duh!

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        @akan004 said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

        @Wally said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

        @akan004

        He’s not a doctor either.

        Obviously he's had a word with the team doctor

        The team doctor isn't a doctor either, duh!

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        @Anonymous said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

        @akan004 said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

        @Wally said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

        @akan004

        He’s not a doctor either.

        Obviously he's had a word with the team doctor

        The team doctor isn't a doctor either, duh!

        ☺

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          I'm shocked that there isn't more discussion about how absolutely pants our starting props were. Moody is still miles away and Franks - from what I can see of the stats, did nothing on attack. Nada. Plus of course he did throw in his two customary missed tackles. We are still one of the very few top teams who get almost nothing out of our props - it's a huge strength of Ireland - and we should face up to it. When the Chiefs beat the Crusaders and went deep, it was the running game of our props that helped get go forward. Where is that?

          It's the Franks non performance, and the non discussion about it that is the most puzzling thing to me.

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            I'm shocked that there isn't more discussion about how absolutely pants our starting props were. Moody is still miles away and Franks - from what I can see of the stats, did nothing on attack. Nada. Plus of course he did throw in his two customary missed tackles. We are still one of the very few top teams who get almost nothing out of our props - it's a huge strength of Ireland - and we should face up to it. When the Chiefs beat the Crusaders and went deep, it was the running game of our props that helped get go forward. Where is that?

            It's the Franks non performance, and the non discussion about it that is the most puzzling thing to me.

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            @gt12 said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

            I'm shocked that there isn't more discussion about how absolutely pants our starting props were. Moody is still miles away and Frnaks - from what I can see of the stats, did nothing on attack. Nada. Plus of course he did throw in his two customary missed tackles. We are still one of the very few top teams who get almost nothing out of our props - it's a huge strength of Ireland - and we should face up to it. When the Chiefs beat the Crusaders and went deep, it was the running game of our props that helped get go forward. Where is that?

            It's the Franks non performance, and the non discussion about it that is the most puzzling thing to me.

            We're all already used to that since he never has.

            Although, I guess there was a distinct lack of his zero metre carries

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              yeah Franks is only there for the scrum, nothing else. But he was wank there today, so he should be gone. with fijita on, our replacement props sturggled, but they were better than the starters until then

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              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                @Nepia said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                Was SBW as bad as everyone made out? I watched first half on my phone coming back from the State House Rugby on the train but he didn't look as bad as the comments (obviously not saying he was good 😉 ) but will do i full screen rewatch tomorrow..

                No-one was as bad as everyone made out. Mass hysteria! 🙂

                First half a bunch of guys had butter-fingers and killed any chance of momentum. But, many of these guys probably haven't played a game of footy since their teams finished their Super campaigns. Second half, when we started holding onto the ball and develop some cohesion, we were actually pretty good.

                Boks were very physical, but a noticeable drop in intensity after 30 minutes. We should really have banked that game - we were the better team in the second half - but it finished a bit like the game in Dunedin a few years back when that Bok halfback scored a try at the death.

                I just looked at the tie-breaker fine-print in the rules and it says the team whose star lock goes to hospital with a dislocated shoulder is the loser - which seems quite accurate! By far the worst thing about this game.

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                @Chris-B said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                No-one was as bad as everyone made out. Mass hysteria!

                Some seriously ordinary performances though. Hardly hysteria but I'll watch it again and see if if our captain is still worthy? Maybe the short ass to 8? Definitely Cane at 7. I have no clue at 6?

                We were f'd in the loose, not convinced on the front row starters, mid field we have the players but don't use them in a combo, ever.

                Hoping that the selectors are thinking like I am (or I can just blame them when don't retain the cup).

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                  Scott Robertson also needs to get his priorities straight. Blackadder always had the Crusader ABs humming by test time. No surprise the All Blacks have looked a bit ropey and not peaking at the right time since Robertson has convinced them to give actually care about super rugby.

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                  • FrankF Frank

                    @Donsteppa said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                    @taniwharugby said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                    @Kirwan no one really deserved to win tbf.

                    Boy, Fozzie got some work to do if he expects to have a job next year...

                    He should never even have got this job on his Chiefs form. He’s a teflon coated lock-in for 2020 unfortunately.

                    If we don't win the World Cup??? Fat fuckin' chance.

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                    @Frank said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                    @Donsteppa said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                    @taniwharugby said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                    @Kirwan no one really deserved to win tbf.

                    Boy, Fozzie got some work to do if he expects to have a job next year...

                    He should never even have got this job on his Chiefs form. He’s a teflon coated lock-in for 2020 unfortunately.

                    If we don't win the World Cup??? Fat fuckin' chance.

                    That's what I'd have said after his Chiefs efforts too... will be very happy to be wrong though!

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                    • gt12G gt12

                      I'm shocked that there isn't more discussion about how absolutely pants our starting props were. Moody is still miles away and Franks - from what I can see of the stats, did nothing on attack. Nada. Plus of course he did throw in his two customary missed tackles. We are still one of the very few top teams who get almost nothing out of our props - it's a huge strength of Ireland - and we should face up to it. When the Chiefs beat the Crusaders and went deep, it was the running game of our props that helped get go forward. Where is that?

                      It's the Franks non performance, and the non discussion about it that is the most puzzling thing to me.

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                      @gt12 agree. And replacements were weak at scrum time.

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                        Reckon they'll keep it tighter in the RWC. I can't see them playing this loose and unstructured. Hope not at least.

                        I'm willing to give the RM-BB combo another go. This is because we need RM to kick and BB is freaking farking awesome as a fullback. I just hope that first half from RM was an anomaly. He was dreadful.

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                        • SnowyS Snowy

                          @Chris-B said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                          No-one was as bad as everyone made out. Mass hysteria!

                          Some seriously ordinary performances though. Hardly hysteria but I'll watch it again and see if if our captain is still worthy? Maybe the short ass to 8? Definitely Cane at 7. I have no clue at 6?

                          We were f'd in the loose, not convinced on the front row starters, mid field we have the players but don't use them in a combo, ever.

                          Hoping that the selectors are thinking like I am (or I can just blame them when don't retain the cup).

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                          @Snowy said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                          @Chris-B said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                          No-one was as bad as everyone made out. Mass hysteria!

                          Some seriously ordinary performances though. Hardly hysteria but I'll watch it again and see if if our captain is still worthy? Maybe the short ass to 8? Definitely Cane at 7. I have no clue at 6?

                          Hansen's not keen on small backrows - he had that with Richie, Jerry and Rodders - and I'm sure he noticed how much easier his job was when he got Richie, Jerome and Reado.

                          Definitely a few guys who are just hanging on for RWC, but we had that in 2015 and it worked out OK - we've just got to hope that those guys have three more big games in them.

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                          • Chris B.C Chris B.

                            @Snowy said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                            @Chris-B said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                            No-one was as bad as everyone made out. Mass hysteria!

                            Some seriously ordinary performances though. Hardly hysteria but I'll watch it again and see if if our captain is still worthy? Maybe the short ass to 8? Definitely Cane at 7. I have no clue at 6?

                            Hansen's not keen on small backrows - he had that with Richie, Jerry and Rodders - and I'm sure he noticed how much easier his job was when he got Richie, Jerome and Reado.

                            Definitely a few guys who are just hanging on for RWC, but we had that in 2015 and it worked out OK - we've just got to hope that those guys have three more big games in them.

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                            @Chris-B Who's your 6?

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                            • gt12G gt12

                              I'm shocked that there isn't more discussion about how absolutely pants our starting props were. Moody is still miles away and Franks - from what I can see of the stats, did nothing on attack. Nada. Plus of course he did throw in his two customary missed tackles. We are still one of the very few top teams who get almost nothing out of our props - it's a huge strength of Ireland - and we should face up to it. When the Chiefs beat the Crusaders and went deep, it was the running game of our props that helped get go forward. Where is that?

                              It's the Franks non performance, and the non discussion about it that is the most puzzling thing to me.

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                              @gt12 Franks is firmly in my has-been group.

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                              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                @Snowy said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                                @Chris-B said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                                No-one was as bad as everyone made out. Mass hysteria!

                                Some seriously ordinary performances though. Hardly hysteria but I'll watch it again and see if if our captain is still worthy? Maybe the short ass to 8? Definitely Cane at 7. I have no clue at 6?

                                Hansen's not keen on small backrows - he had that with Richie, Jerry and Rodders - and I'm sure he noticed how much easier his job was when he got Richie, Jerome and Reado.

                                Definitely a few guys who are just hanging on for RWC, but we had that in 2015 and it worked out OK - we've just got to hope that those guys have three more big games in them.

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                                @Chris-B said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                                Hansen's not keen on small backrows - he had that with Richie, Jerry and Rodders - and I'm sure he noticed how much easier his job was when he got Richie, Jerome and Reado.

                                That doesn't explain why he doesn't want to play Savea, Cane, Read though, cause Savea is huge.

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                                  @gt12 agree. And replacements were weak at scrum time.

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                                  @kev said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                                  @gt12 agree. And replacements were weak at scrum time.

                                  No they weren't. The replacements were much better, until BBBR went of and they had a floppy fajita behind them.

                                  Franks is a slow poke who's only strength is the scrum. Watch him in a match , he does literally FA. No rucks, sod all tackles, no metres, nothing in the line out. So unless he is dominating the scrum, time to go. And for him it is, he's also a bit of a grub and gives away pointless penalites.

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                                  • TimT Tim

                                    @gt12 Franks is firmly in my has-been group.

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                                    @Tim said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                                    @gt12 Franks is firmly in my has-been group.

                                    Yeah, #me too. Good AB, but gone.

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                                      Bender looking every bit of his 33 years, although his experience will be valuable in a world cup.

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                                        @Chris-B said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                                        Hansen's not keen on small backrows - he had that with Richie, Jerry and Rodders - and I'm sure he noticed how much easier his job was when he got Richie, Jerome and Reado.

                                        That doesn't explain why he doesn't want to play Savea, Cane, Read though, cause Savea is huge.

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                                        @Anonymous said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                                        @Chris-B said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                                        Hansen's not keen on small backrows - he had that with Richie, Jerry and Rodders - and I'm sure he noticed how much easier his job was when he got Richie, Jerome and Reado.

                                        That doesn't explain why he doesn't want to play Savea, Cane, Read though, cause Savea is huge.

                                        At least a 5-metre giant by now.

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                                          @Anonymous said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                                          @Chris-B said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                                          Hansen's not keen on small backrows - he had that with Richie, Jerry and Rodders - and I'm sure he noticed how much easier his job was when he got Richie, Jerome and Reado.

                                          That doesn't explain why he doesn't want to play Savea, Cane, Read though, cause Savea is huge.

                                          At least a 5-metre giant by now.

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                                          @Stargazer said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                                          @Anonymous said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                                          @Chris-B said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                                          Hansen's not keen on small backrows - he had that with Richie, Jerry and Rodders - and I'm sure he noticed how much easier his job was when he got Richie, Jerome and Reado.

                                          That doesn't explain why he doesn't want to play Savea, Cane, Read though, cause Savea is huge.

                                          At least a 5-metre giant by now.

                                          He has played like it , this season

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