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Jordie obviously wasn't motivated purely by the money as all media reports had the Highlanders, and then the Blues, offering a bigger contract than the Canes.
@Bovidae would be interesting to see how much difference there was between offers. Could imagine the Highlanders had some coin to play with given upcoming changes in their squad. Bet the Blues backs make more than the forwards
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Blues CEO Michael Redman is stepping down.
@KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby News:
Blues CEO Michael Redman is stepping down.
Quoting so I can like it again.
Edit: can’t do that anymore, nevertheless, see ya! Wouldn’t want to be ya!
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@KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby News:
Blues CEO Michael Redman is stepping down.
Quoting so I can like it again.
Edit: can’t do that anymore, nevertheless, see ya! Wouldn’t want to be ya!
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Yep, a 3 year deal with NZ rugby but only committing the one year with the Canes. So the writing is pretty much on the wall given BB is off to the blues and Scott would be a madman to leave the Saders.
I'm with @Chris, this is lame imo. He is a talent but he's rocks and diamonds at the moment. He hasn't, imo, earned the right to have those sorts of terms in his contract. I guess NZ rugby are looking more and more at contracting arrangements (in addition to pure $$) to keep a wider range of talent in NZ??
I guess he could stick with us after 2020, but that seems highly unlikely.
@Paekakboyz Yeah very messy this contract.Brothers are mentioned in there are we going to have a scenario where BB takes a sabbatical in 2021,
So JB plays with Scott at the Crusaders then transfers to the Blues in 2022.Potential of 3 Franchises in 3 years. -
@Paekakboyz Yeah very messy this contract.Brothers are mentioned in there are we going to have a scenario where BB takes a sabbatical in 2021,
So JB plays with Scott at the Crusaders then transfers to the Blues in 2022.Potential of 3 Franchises in 3 years.@Chris I like your analysis, but can't bring myself to like the post!! 3 franchises in three years would be very lame.
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The Highlanders would be smart to gift a contract to little-known brother Blake Barrett in the hope it entices Jordie south.
@Wurzel said in Super Rugby News:
The Highlanders would be smart to gift a contract to little-known brother Blake Barrett in the hope it entices Jordie south.
I hope he is a cop as he would need some pretty decent work stories around the Chrissy table with his Brothers.
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@Wurzel said in Super Rugby News:
The Highlanders would be smart to gift a contract to little-known brother Blake Barrett in the hope it entices Jordie south.
I hope he is a cop as he would need some pretty decent work stories around the Chrissy table with his Brothers.
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@Wurzel said in Super Rugby News:
The Highlanders would be smart to gift a contract to little-known brother Blake Barrett in the hope it entices Jordie south.
I hope he is a cop as he would need some pretty decent work stories around the Chrissy table with his Brothers.
@Hooroo said in Super Rugby News:
@Wurzel said in Super Rugby News:
The Highlanders would be smart to gift a contract to little-known brother Blake Barrett in the hope it entices Jordie south.
I hope he is a cop as he would need some pretty decent work stories around the Chrissy table with his Brothers.
Speaking of that perhaps Mr and Mrs Ioane need to watch Akiras portion sizes compared to Reikos this Xmas....
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@Paekakboyz Yeah very messy this contract.Brothers are mentioned in there are we going to have a scenario where BB takes a sabbatical in 2021,
So JB plays with Scott at the Crusaders then transfers to the Blues in 2022.Potential of 3 Franchises in 3 years.@Chris said in Super Rugby News:
@Paekakboyz Yeah very messy this contract.Brothers are mentioned in there are we going to have a scenario where BB takes a sabbatical in 2021,
So JB plays with Scott at the Crusaders then transfers to the Blues in 2022.Potential of 3 Franchises in 3 years.There's an alternative. Scott's contract expires next year ....
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@Chris said in Super Rugby News:
@Paekakboyz Yeah very messy this contract.Brothers are mentioned in there are we going to have a scenario where BB takes a sabbatical in 2021,
So JB plays with Scott at the Crusaders then transfers to the Blues in 2022.Potential of 3 Franchises in 3 years.There's an alternative. Scott's contract expires next year ....
@Stargazer Thats always a possibility but I think Scott will stay at the Crusaders I can't see him moving.
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The Tuggeranong Viking product has progressed through the Brumbies’ ACT Junior Representative grades and Academy structure and will join fellow junior internationals Noah Lolesio and Nick Frost in the squad for 2020.
So after a year or so in the Crusaders academy, Frost hasn't only played for Australia U20 but he also got a Brumbies' contract.
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I can't really see what huge "extras" Jordie has been given. Essentially signed a 1 year contract with Canes and put them on notice that he might move. Oh whoop de Doo. Wasn't it his 3rd year of super rugby this year? Sounds very fair to me.
I moved country to play rugby with my brother before I got too old and I wasn't getting paid for it. With a 6 year age difference I didn't get to do it much growing up. What's the age difference between him and Beauden?
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@Tim can't see a downside if we keep them in NZ
IMO, one downside is that frachises want to build a team for the future, not just for one season. Some players will be key cogs in the plans for the future and the uncertainty that results from contracts like Jordie's is that they cannot include those players in their mid- to long-term plans. To a degree this is similar to players on one-year contracts, but some of the players on one-year contracts (like Ryan Crotty, for example), have such short-term contract because they're considering a move overseas after a long career, while others - rookies - have short-term contracts because they still have to prove that they are good enough for SR level. Neither of these players will be part of mid- to long-term plans, unlike established SR players who are not yet at that stage in their career/life that they'll be considering a move offshore (like Jordie).
Another thing is that each team will have its own intelectual property. If players can switch teams this easily, that intellectual property can get easily lost (and will be known to other squads soon).
From a fan perspective, players who are on a contract like Jordie's can also be seen as having limited loyalty to their current franchise. Players being able to swap SR franchises due to this kind of contract will not attract the same kind of support as players who are seen as loyal team players.
Edited to add that I also don't like one possible consequence of this kind of contract: that franchises try to lure other franchises' players to their squad. If one squad is richer than another, they can basically buy their squad instead of developing it. It may lead to poaching, favouring richer franchises. It also adds another question mark to NZR's involvement in the Blues, the only squad in which they have a stake.
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IMO, one downside is that frachises want to build a team for the future, not just for one season. Some players will be key cogs in the plans for the future and the uncertainty that results from contracts like Jordie's is that they cannot include those players in their mid- to long-term plans. To a degree this is similar to players on one-year contracts, but some of the players on one-year contracts (like Ryan Crotty, for example), have such short-term contract because they're considering a move overseas after a long career, while others - rookies - have short-term contracts because they still have to prove that they are good enough for SR level. Neither of these players will be part of mid- to long-term plans, unlike established SR players who are not yet at that stage in their career/life that they'll be considering a move offshore (like Jordie).
Another thing is that each team will have its own intelectual property. If players can switch teams this easily, that intellectual property can get easily lost (and will be known to other squads soon).
From a fan perspective, players who are on a contract like Jordie's can also be seen as having limited loyalty to their current franchise. Players being able to swap SR franchises due to this kind of contract will not attract the same kind of support as players who are seen as loyal team players.
Edited to add that I also don't like one possible consequence of this kind of contract: that franchises try to lure other franchises' players to their squad. If one squad is richer than another, they can basically buy their squad instead of developing it. It may lead to poaching, favouring richer franchises. It also adds another question mark to NZR's involvement in the Blues, the only squad in which they have a stake.
@Stargazer IMO none of that really matters when we are talking about Super Rugby, which is a professional rugby league with teams that are "franchises" anyway, with manufactured supporter bases.
