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NRL 2019

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  • canefanC canefan

    @mariner4life said in NRL 2019:

    @antipodean said in NRL 2019:

    You all seem surprised that the average mental capacity of past and present players is reflected in the administration of the game.

    the only thing that surprises is that they try and portray themselves as professional

    Though i guess, when the only people who give even a little fuck about your game live along the one coast of one country, then you can pretty much do whatever the fuck you want really.

    It started with "you need ex-players on the judiciary, only they have a feel for the game"

    which has become

    "oh yeah, league players are, in the main, complete deadshits"

    Nothing less than you would expect from a regional sport. AFL are a regional oddity too. Are their judiciary as poor?

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    #823

    @canefan said in NRL 2019:

    @mariner4life said in NRL 2019:

    @antipodean said in NRL 2019:

    You all seem surprised that the average mental capacity of past and present players is reflected in the administration of the game.

    the only thing that surprises is that they try and portray themselves as professional

    Though i guess, when the only people who give even a little fuck about your game live along the one coast of one country, then you can pretty much do whatever the fuck you want really.

    It started with "you need ex-players on the judiciary, only they have a feel for the game"

    which has become

    "oh yeah, league players are, in the main, complete deadshits"

    Nothing less than you would expect from a regional sport. AFL are a regional oddity too. Are their judiciary as poor?

    depends on who you talk to. They have far less to deal with. But fans will still tell you the judiciary have it in for their team.

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      @canefan said in NRL 2019:

      @mariner4life said in NRL 2019:

      @antipodean said in NRL 2019:

      You all seem surprised that the average mental capacity of past and present players is reflected in the administration of the game.

      the only thing that surprises is that they try and portray themselves as professional

      Though i guess, when the only people who give even a little fuck about your game live along the one coast of one country, then you can pretty much do whatever the fuck you want really.

      It started with "you need ex-players on the judiciary, only they have a feel for the game"

      which has become

      "oh yeah, league players are, in the main, complete deadshits"

      Nothing less than you would expect from a regional sport. AFL are a regional oddity too. Are their judiciary as poor?

      depends on who you talk to. They have far less to deal with. But fans will still tell you the judiciary have it in for their team.

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      #824

      @mariner4life said in NRL 2019:

      @canefan said in NRL 2019:

      @mariner4life said in NRL 2019:

      @antipodean said in NRL 2019:

      You all seem surprised that the average mental capacity of past and present players is reflected in the administration of the game.

      the only thing that surprises is that they try and portray themselves as professional

      Though i guess, when the only people who give even a little fuck about your game live along the one coast of one country, then you can pretty much do whatever the fuck you want really.

      It started with "you need ex-players on the judiciary, only they have a feel for the game"

      which has become

      "oh yeah, league players are, in the main, complete deadshits"

      Nothing less than you would expect from a regional sport. AFL are a regional oddity too. Are their judiciary as poor?

      depends on who you talk to. They have far less to deal with. But fans will still tell you the judiciary have it in for their team.

      After all the shenanigans, we still need them more than they need us

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      • canefanC canefan

        @mariner4life said in NRL 2019:

        @canefan said in NRL 2019:

        @mariner4life said in NRL 2019:

        @antipodean said in NRL 2019:

        You all seem surprised that the average mental capacity of past and present players is reflected in the administration of the game.

        the only thing that surprises is that they try and portray themselves as professional

        Though i guess, when the only people who give even a little fuck about your game live along the one coast of one country, then you can pretty much do whatever the fuck you want really.

        It started with "you need ex-players on the judiciary, only they have a feel for the game"

        which has become

        "oh yeah, league players are, in the main, complete deadshits"

        Nothing less than you would expect from a regional sport. AFL are a regional oddity too. Are their judiciary as poor?

        depends on who you talk to. They have far less to deal with. But fans will still tell you the judiciary have it in for their team.

        After all the shenanigans, we still need them more than they need us

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        @canefan said in NRL 2019:

        @mariner4life said in NRL 2019:

        @canefan said in NRL 2019:

        @mariner4life said in NRL 2019:

        @antipodean said in NRL 2019:

        You all seem surprised that the average mental capacity of past and present players is reflected in the administration of the game.

        the only thing that surprises is that they try and portray themselves as professional

        Though i guess, when the only people who give even a little fuck about your game live along the one coast of one country, then you can pretty much do whatever the fuck you want really.

        It started with "you need ex-players on the judiciary, only they have a feel for the game"

        which has become

        "oh yeah, league players are, in the main, complete deadshits"

        Nothing less than you would expect from a regional sport. AFL are a regional oddity too. Are their judiciary as poor?

        depends on who you talk to. They have far less to deal with. But fans will still tell you the judiciary have it in for their team.

        After all the shenanigans, we still need them more than they need us

        do we though? As far as i can tell, the judiciary only exist to protect the administration

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          @canefan said in NRL 2019:

          @mariner4life said in NRL 2019:

          @canefan said in NRL 2019:

          @mariner4life said in NRL 2019:

          @antipodean said in NRL 2019:

          You all seem surprised that the average mental capacity of past and present players is reflected in the administration of the game.

          the only thing that surprises is that they try and portray themselves as professional

          Though i guess, when the only people who give even a little fuck about your game live along the one coast of one country, then you can pretty much do whatever the fuck you want really.

          It started with "you need ex-players on the judiciary, only they have a feel for the game"

          which has become

          "oh yeah, league players are, in the main, complete deadshits"

          Nothing less than you would expect from a regional sport. AFL are a regional oddity too. Are their judiciary as poor?

          depends on who you talk to. They have far less to deal with. But fans will still tell you the judiciary have it in for their team.

          After all the shenanigans, we still need them more than they need us

          do we though? As far as i can tell, the judiciary only exist to protect the administration

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          #826

          @mariner4life said in NRL 2019:

          @canefan said in NRL 2019:

          @mariner4life said in NRL 2019:

          @canefan said in NRL 2019:

          @mariner4life said in NRL 2019:

          @antipodean said in NRL 2019:

          You all seem surprised that the average mental capacity of past and present players is reflected in the administration of the game.

          the only thing that surprises is that they try and portray themselves as professional

          Though i guess, when the only people who give even a little fuck about your game live along the one coast of one country, then you can pretty much do whatever the fuck you want really.

          It started with "you need ex-players on the judiciary, only they have a feel for the game"

          which has become

          "oh yeah, league players are, in the main, complete deadshits"

          Nothing less than you would expect from a regional sport. AFL are a regional oddity too. Are their judiciary as poor?

          depends on who you talk to. They have far less to deal with. But fans will still tell you the judiciary have it in for their team.

          After all the shenanigans, we still need them more than they need us

          do we though? As far as i can tell, the judiciary only exist to protect the administration

          I mean NZ league needs the NRL and it is valuable to have a franchise in the comp

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          • canefanC canefan

            @mariner4life said in NRL 2019:

            @canefan said in NRL 2019:

            @mariner4life said in NRL 2019:

            @canefan said in NRL 2019:

            @mariner4life said in NRL 2019:

            @antipodean said in NRL 2019:

            You all seem surprised that the average mental capacity of past and present players is reflected in the administration of the game.

            the only thing that surprises is that they try and portray themselves as professional

            Though i guess, when the only people who give even a little fuck about your game live along the one coast of one country, then you can pretty much do whatever the fuck you want really.

            It started with "you need ex-players on the judiciary, only they have a feel for the game"

            which has become

            "oh yeah, league players are, in the main, complete deadshits"

            Nothing less than you would expect from a regional sport. AFL are a regional oddity too. Are their judiciary as poor?

            depends on who you talk to. They have far less to deal with. But fans will still tell you the judiciary have it in for their team.

            After all the shenanigans, we still need them more than they need us

            do we though? As far as i can tell, the judiciary only exist to protect the administration

            I mean NZ league needs the NRL and it is valuable to have a franchise in the comp

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            #827

            @canefan said in NRL 2019:

            @mariner4life said in NRL 2019:

            @canefan said in NRL 2019:

            @mariner4life said in NRL 2019:

            @canefan said in NRL 2019:

            @mariner4life said in NRL 2019:

            @antipodean said in NRL 2019:

            You all seem surprised that the average mental capacity of past and present players is reflected in the administration of the game.

            the only thing that surprises is that they try and portray themselves as professional

            Though i guess, when the only people who give even a little fuck about your game live along the one coast of one country, then you can pretty much do whatever the fuck you want really.

            It started with "you need ex-players on the judiciary, only they have a feel for the game"

            which has become

            "oh yeah, league players are, in the main, complete deadshits"

            Nothing less than you would expect from a regional sport. AFL are a regional oddity too. Are their judiciary as poor?

            depends on who you talk to. They have far less to deal with. But fans will still tell you the judiciary have it in for their team.

            After all the shenanigans, we still need them more than they need us

            do we though? As far as i can tell, the judiciary only exist to protect the administration

            I mean NZ league needs the NRL and it is valuable to have a franchise in the comp

            oh yeah, for sure.

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                @Rancid-Schnitzel I hope I'm around to see it. This season is broken now. We need a major clean out, from the top down. Whoever gave Nikorima all that money needs to be fired. Kearney has to go, he doesn't seem to be able to extract the required passion and energy from the boys. We lack onfield leadership so our forwards lack mongrel, many of them (especially Luke and Blair) have to go. Go scouting in Oz and find a back rower and a prop to toughen up the pack, in the Luck/Campion/Price mould. They don't have to be top dollar, unless they are top class, but they need to have a chip on their shoulder and want to work hard (ie James Graham a couple of years back). I don't want anymore passengers. Maybe grab a Gattis/Henderson type hooker while we are there. Dump as many of our big contracts as possible and free money up to buy quality workhorses, not the bunch of bottlers we have now. I don't think RTS cuts it as a captain, too nice. He doesn't harass the refs, he doesn't seem to rark up the forwards. Coach will be difficult. I think look back to what made Cleary good; ex-Warrior, consummate pro, even tempered, supportive to his players but firm. Lets do it all now

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                • canefanC canefan

                  @Rancid-Schnitzel I hope I'm around to see it. This season is broken now. We need a major clean out, from the top down. Whoever gave Nikorima all that money needs to be fired. Kearney has to go, he doesn't seem to be able to extract the required passion and energy from the boys. We lack onfield leadership so our forwards lack mongrel, many of them (especially Luke and Blair) have to go. Go scouting in Oz and find a back rower and a prop to toughen up the pack, in the Luck/Campion/Price mould. They don't have to be top dollar, unless they are top class, but they need to have a chip on their shoulder and want to work hard (ie James Graham a couple of years back). I don't want anymore passengers. Maybe grab a Gattis/Henderson type hooker while we are there. Dump as many of our big contracts as possible and free money up to buy quality workhorses, not the bunch of bottlers we have now. I don't think RTS cuts it as a captain, too nice. He doesn't harass the refs, he doesn't seem to rark up the forwards. Coach will be difficult. I think look back to what made Cleary good; ex-Warrior, consummate pro, even tempered, supportive to his players but firm. Lets do it all now

                  alt text

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                  #830

                  @canefan said in NRL 2019:

                  @Rancid-Schnitzel I hope I'm around to see it. This season is broken now. We need a major clean out, from the top down. Whoever gave Nikorima all that money needs to be fired. Kearney has to go, he doesn't seem to be able to extract the required passion and energy from the boys. We lack onfield leadership so our forwards lack mongrel, many of them (especially Luke and Blair) have to go. Go scouting in Oz and find a back rower and a prop to toughen up the pack, in the Luck/Campion/Price mould. They don't have to be top dollar, unless they are top class, but they need to have a chip on their shoulder and want to work hard (ie James Graham a couple of years back). I don't want anymore passengers. Maybe grab a Gattis/Henderson type hooker while we are there. Dump as many of our big contracts as possible and free money up to buy quality workhorses, not the bunch of bottlers we have now. I don't think RTS cuts it as a captain, too nice. He doesn't harass the refs, he doesn't seem to rark up the forwards. Coach will be difficult. I think look back to what made Cleary good; ex-Warrior, consummate pro, even tempered, supportive to his players but firm. Lets do it all now

                  alt text

                  The thing is, all this talk of bias, lack of respect etc was exactly what was coming out of the Brisbane press in the early days of the Broncos. Much of it was actually justified as well. I wholeheartedly agree with what Raz said a few weeks ago that the Warriors will never be considered an equal until they start becoming a threat. Would be exactly the same for Melbourne if it wasn't for Bellamy and his Qld talent. The Reds, Rams, Crushers and the 90 other GC teams were also treated like shit.

                  When the Warriors launched I thought they'd be a continued powerhouse because they could access the cream of the NZ talent like the Broncos did with Qld back in the day. Certainly hasn't turned out that way.

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                  • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                    @canefan said in NRL 2019:

                    @Rancid-Schnitzel I hope I'm around to see it. This season is broken now. We need a major clean out, from the top down. Whoever gave Nikorima all that money needs to be fired. Kearney has to go, he doesn't seem to be able to extract the required passion and energy from the boys. We lack onfield leadership so our forwards lack mongrel, many of them (especially Luke and Blair) have to go. Go scouting in Oz and find a back rower and a prop to toughen up the pack, in the Luck/Campion/Price mould. They don't have to be top dollar, unless they are top class, but they need to have a chip on their shoulder and want to work hard (ie James Graham a couple of years back). I don't want anymore passengers. Maybe grab a Gattis/Henderson type hooker while we are there. Dump as many of our big contracts as possible and free money up to buy quality workhorses, not the bunch of bottlers we have now. I don't think RTS cuts it as a captain, too nice. He doesn't harass the refs, he doesn't seem to rark up the forwards. Coach will be difficult. I think look back to what made Cleary good; ex-Warrior, consummate pro, even tempered, supportive to his players but firm. Lets do it all now

                    alt text

                    The thing is, all this talk of bias, lack of respect etc was exactly what was coming out of the Brisbane press in the early days of the Broncos. Much of it was actually justified as well. I wholeheartedly agree with what Raz said a few weeks ago that the Warriors will never be considered an equal until they start becoming a threat. Would be exactly the same for Melbourne if it wasn't for Bellamy and his Qld talent. The Reds, Rams, Crushers and the 90 other GC teams were also treated like shit.

                    When the Warriors launched I thought they'd be a continued powerhouse because they could access the cream of the NZ talent like the Broncos did with Qld back in the day. Certainly hasn't turned out that way.

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                    @Rancid-Schnitzel When I watched the Keeping the Faith doco, it was obvious how white the league was back then. Creative players like the ones at the Warriors were not encouraged (guys like Blacklock, Mundine, others were regularly passed over at rep level in favour of more steady players). These days every team has a contingent of polynesian players, all teams are scouting players in NZ, and all of the players regardless of ethnicity try to play more open. It is the gift we gave the NRL but our point of difference has been eroded

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                    • canefanC canefan

                      @Rancid-Schnitzel When I watched the Keeping the Faith doco, it was obvious how white the league was back then. Creative players like the ones at the Warriors were not encouraged (guys like Blacklock, Mundine, others were regularly passed over at rep level in favour of more steady players). These days every team has a contingent of polynesian players, all teams are scouting players in NZ, and all of the players regardless of ethnicity try to play more open. It is the gift we gave the NRL but our point of difference has been eroded

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                      @canefan said in NRL 2019:

                      players regardless of ethnicity try to play more open

                      i can't say i agree with that to be honest. Game plans are very very simple, and very risk free now. Mistake free footy and a solid defense wins premierships. Take your opportunity when it comes. The Craig Bellamy/Wayne Bennett model

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                        Players these days are much more likely to be physically athletes as opposed to "football players".

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          @canefan said in NRL 2019:

                          players regardless of ethnicity try to play more open

                          i can't say i agree with that to be honest. Game plans are very very simple, and very risk free now. Mistake free footy and a solid defense wins premierships. Take your opportunity when it comes. The Craig Bellamy/Wayne Bennett model

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                          @mariner4life said in NRL 2019:

                          @canefan said in NRL 2019:

                          players regardless of ethnicity try to play more open

                          i can't say i agree with that to be honest. Game plans are very very simple, and very risk free now. Mistake free footy and a solid defense wins premierships. Take your opportunity when it comes. The Craig Bellamy/Wayne Bennett model

                          It is entirely possible I am talking out my arse. I don't watch as much league as I used to..... There are a lot more poly players around though, the other clubs steal players out from under the Warriors' noses

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                          • canefanC canefan

                            @Rancid-Schnitzel When I watched the Keeping the Faith doco, it was obvious how white the league was back then. Creative players like the ones at the Warriors were not encouraged (guys like Blacklock, Mundine, others were regularly passed over at rep level in favour of more steady players). These days every team has a contingent of polynesian players, all teams are scouting players in NZ, and all of the players regardless of ethnicity try to play more open. It is the gift we gave the NRL but our point of difference has been eroded

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                            @canefan said in NRL 2019:

                            @Rancid-Schnitzel When I watched the Keeping the Faith doco, it was obvious how white the league was back then. Creative players like the ones at the Warriors were not encouraged (guys like Blacklock, Mundine, others were regularly passed over at rep level in favour of more steady players). These days every team has a contingent of polynesian players, all teams are scouting players in NZ, and all of the players regardless of ethnicity try to play more open. It is the gift we gave the NRL but our point of difference has been eroded

                            Mundine was passed over because he wasn't in the same league as Daley or Fittler. The league might have been whiter, which was a reflection of the demographics in Aus at that time, but saying creative players weren't encouraged is pure boulderdash imho.

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                            • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                              @canefan said in NRL 2019:

                              @Rancid-Schnitzel When I watched the Keeping the Faith doco, it was obvious how white the league was back then. Creative players like the ones at the Warriors were not encouraged (guys like Blacklock, Mundine, others were regularly passed over at rep level in favour of more steady players). These days every team has a contingent of polynesian players, all teams are scouting players in NZ, and all of the players regardless of ethnicity try to play more open. It is the gift we gave the NRL but our point of difference has been eroded

                              Mundine was passed over because he wasn't in the same league as Daley or Fittler. The league might have been whiter, which was a reflection of the demographics in Aus at that time, but saying creative players weren't encouraged is pure boulderdash imho.

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                              @Rancid-Schnitzel said in NRL 2019:

                              @canefan said in NRL 2019:

                              @Rancid-Schnitzel When I watched the Keeping the Faith doco, it was obvious how white the league was back then. Creative players like the ones at the Warriors were not encouraged (guys like Blacklock, Mundine, others were regularly passed over at rep level in favour of more steady players). These days every team has a contingent of polynesian players, all teams are scouting players in NZ, and all of the players regardless of ethnicity try to play more open. It is the gift we gave the NRL but our point of difference has been eroded

                              Mundine was passed over because he wasn't in the same league as Daley or Fittler. The league might have been whiter, which was a reflection of the demographics in Aus at that time, but saying creative players weren't encouraged is pure boulderdash imho.

                              See my comment above. I appear to be talking out of the wrong end right now...

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                              • canefanC canefan

                                @Rancid-Schnitzel said in NRL 2019:

                                @canefan said in NRL 2019:

                                @Rancid-Schnitzel When I watched the Keeping the Faith doco, it was obvious how white the league was back then. Creative players like the ones at the Warriors were not encouraged (guys like Blacklock, Mundine, others were regularly passed over at rep level in favour of more steady players). These days every team has a contingent of polynesian players, all teams are scouting players in NZ, and all of the players regardless of ethnicity try to play more open. It is the gift we gave the NRL but our point of difference has been eroded

                                Mundine was passed over because he wasn't in the same league as Daley or Fittler. The league might have been whiter, which was a reflection of the demographics in Aus at that time, but saying creative players weren't encouraged is pure boulderdash imho.

                                See my comment above. I appear to be talking out of the wrong end right now...

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                                @canefan said in NRL 2019:

                                @Rancid-Schnitzel said in NRL 2019:

                                @canefan said in NRL 2019:

                                @Rancid-Schnitzel When I watched the Keeping the Faith doco, it was obvious how white the league was back then. Creative players like the ones at the Warriors were not encouraged (guys like Blacklock, Mundine, others were regularly passed over at rep level in favour of more steady players). These days every team has a contingent of polynesian players, all teams are scouting players in NZ, and all of the players regardless of ethnicity try to play more open. It is the gift we gave the NRL but our point of difference has been eroded

                                Mundine was passed over because he wasn't in the same league as Daley or Fittler. The league might have been whiter, which was a reflection of the demographics in Aus at that time, but saying creative players weren't encouraged is pure boulderdash imho.

                                See my comment above. I appear to be talking out of the wrong end right now...

                                All good 😊
                                There must also be a heap of NZ kids who are getting scholarships to Aus schools affiliated with the clubs. Seems the Aus scouts are better as well. How did SBW slip through the net?

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                                • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                                  @canefan said in NRL 2019:

                                  @Rancid-Schnitzel said in NRL 2019:

                                  @canefan said in NRL 2019:

                                  @Rancid-Schnitzel When I watched the Keeping the Faith doco, it was obvious how white the league was back then. Creative players like the ones at the Warriors were not encouraged (guys like Blacklock, Mundine, others were regularly passed over at rep level in favour of more steady players). These days every team has a contingent of polynesian players, all teams are scouting players in NZ, and all of the players regardless of ethnicity try to play more open. It is the gift we gave the NRL but our point of difference has been eroded

                                  Mundine was passed over because he wasn't in the same league as Daley or Fittler. The league might have been whiter, which was a reflection of the demographics in Aus at that time, but saying creative players weren't encouraged is pure boulderdash imho.

                                  See my comment above. I appear to be talking out of the wrong end right now...

                                  All good 😊
                                  There must also be a heap of NZ kids who are getting scholarships to Aus schools affiliated with the clubs. Seems the Aus scouts are better as well. How did SBW slip through the net?

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                                  @Rancid-Schnitzel said in NRL 2019:

                                  @canefan said in NRL 2019:

                                  @Rancid-Schnitzel said in NRL 2019:

                                  @canefan said in NRL 2019:

                                  @Rancid-Schnitzel When I watched the Keeping the Faith doco, it was obvious how white the league was back then. Creative players like the ones at the Warriors were not encouraged (guys like Blacklock, Mundine, others were regularly passed over at rep level in favour of more steady players). These days every team has a contingent of polynesian players, all teams are scouting players in NZ, and all of the players regardless of ethnicity try to play more open. It is the gift we gave the NRL but our point of difference has been eroded

                                  Mundine was passed over because he wasn't in the same league as Daley or Fittler. The league might have been whiter, which was a reflection of the demographics in Aus at that time, but saying creative players weren't encouraged is pure boulderdash imho.

                                  See my comment above. I appear to be talking out of the wrong end right now...

                                  All good 😊
                                  There must also be a heap of NZ kids who are getting scholarships to Aus schools affiliated with the clubs. Seems the Aus scouts are better as well. How did SBW slip through the net?

                                  They pluck them out of school here, RTS played for NZ schools union and league for Otahuhu College before being signed by the Roosters. I know he isn't the only example, so I don't know what the fark the Warriors scouts are doing to earn their crust

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                                    @canefan said in NRL 2019:

                                    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in NRL 2019:

                                    @canefan said in NRL 2019:

                                    @Rancid-Schnitzel When I watched the Keeping the Faith doco, it was obvious how white the league was back then. Creative players like the ones at the Warriors were not encouraged (guys like Blacklock, Mundine, others were regularly passed over at rep level in favour of more steady players). These days every team has a contingent of polynesian players, all teams are scouting players in NZ, and all of the players regardless of ethnicity try to play more open. It is the gift we gave the NRL but our point of difference has been eroded

                                    Mundine was passed over because he wasn't in the same league as Daley or Fittler. The league might have been whiter, which was a reflection of the demographics in Aus at that time, but saying creative players weren't encouraged is pure boulderdash imho.

                                    See my comment above. I appear to be talking out of the wrong end right now...

                                    All good 😊
                                    There must also be a heap of NZ kids who are getting scholarships to Aus schools affiliated with the clubs. Seems the Aus scouts are better as well. How did SBW slip through the net?

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                                    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in NRL 2019:

                                    @canefan said in NRL 2019:

                                    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in NRL 2019:

                                    @canefan said in NRL 2019:

                                    @Rancid-Schnitzel When I watched the Keeping the Faith doco, it was obvious how white the league was back then. Creative players like the ones at the Warriors were not encouraged (guys like Blacklock, Mundine, others were regularly passed over at rep level in favour of more steady players). These days every team has a contingent of polynesian players, all teams are scouting players in NZ, and all of the players regardless of ethnicity try to play more open. It is the gift we gave the NRL but our point of difference has been eroded

                                    Mundine was passed over because he wasn't in the same league as Daley or Fittler. The league might have been whiter, which was a reflection of the demographics in Aus at that time, but saying creative players weren't encouraged is pure boulderdash imho.

                                    See my comment above. I appear to be talking out of the wrong end right now...

                                    All good 😊
                                    There must also be a heap of NZ kids who are getting scholarships to Aus schools affiliated with the clubs. Seems the Aus scouts are better as well. How did SBW slip through the net?

                                    I'm amazed at the amount of NRL players that are NZ qualified. Which makes the under performance of the Warriors and the Test team bewildering.

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                                    • antipodeanA antipodean

                                      @Rancid-Schnitzel said in NRL 2019:

                                      @canefan said in NRL 2019:

                                      @Rancid-Schnitzel said in NRL 2019:

                                      @canefan said in NRL 2019:

                                      @Rancid-Schnitzel When I watched the Keeping the Faith doco, it was obvious how white the league was back then. Creative players like the ones at the Warriors were not encouraged (guys like Blacklock, Mundine, others were regularly passed over at rep level in favour of more steady players). These days every team has a contingent of polynesian players, all teams are scouting players in NZ, and all of the players regardless of ethnicity try to play more open. It is the gift we gave the NRL but our point of difference has been eroded

                                      Mundine was passed over because he wasn't in the same league as Daley or Fittler. The league might have been whiter, which was a reflection of the demographics in Aus at that time, but saying creative players weren't encouraged is pure boulderdash imho.

                                      See my comment above. I appear to be talking out of the wrong end right now...

                                      All good 😊
                                      There must also be a heap of NZ kids who are getting scholarships to Aus schools affiliated with the clubs. Seems the Aus scouts are better as well. How did SBW slip through the net?

                                      I'm amazed at the amount of NRL players that are NZ qualified. Which makes the under performance of the Warriors and the Test team bewildering.

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                                      @antipodean said in NRL 2019:

                                      @Rancid-Schnitzel said in NRL 2019:

                                      @canefan said in NRL 2019:

                                      @Rancid-Schnitzel said in NRL 2019:

                                      @canefan said in NRL 2019:

                                      @Rancid-Schnitzel When I watched the Keeping the Faith doco, it was obvious how white the league was back then. Creative players like the ones at the Warriors were not encouraged (guys like Blacklock, Mundine, others were regularly passed over at rep level in favour of more steady players). These days every team has a contingent of polynesian players, all teams are scouting players in NZ, and all of the players regardless of ethnicity try to play more open. It is the gift we gave the NRL but our point of difference has been eroded

                                      Mundine was passed over because he wasn't in the same league as Daley or Fittler. The league might have been whiter, which was a reflection of the demographics in Aus at that time, but saying creative players weren't encouraged is pure boulderdash imho.

                                      See my comment above. I appear to be talking out of the wrong end right now...

                                      All good 😊
                                      There must also be a heap of NZ kids who are getting scholarships to Aus schools affiliated with the clubs. Seems the Aus scouts are better as well. How did SBW slip through the net?

                                      I'm amazed at the amount of NRL players that are NZ qualified. Which makes the under performance of the Warriors and the Test team bewildering.

                                      No different from the Blues letting so many good players leave to become success at other franchises (and in the NRL)

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                                        @Rancid-Schnitzel said in NRL 2019:

                                        @canefan said in NRL 2019:

                                        @Rancid-Schnitzel said in NRL 2019:

                                        @canefan said in NRL 2019:

                                        @Rancid-Schnitzel When I watched the Keeping the Faith doco, it was obvious how white the league was back then. Creative players like the ones at the Warriors were not encouraged (guys like Blacklock, Mundine, others were regularly passed over at rep level in favour of more steady players). These days every team has a contingent of polynesian players, all teams are scouting players in NZ, and all of the players regardless of ethnicity try to play more open. It is the gift we gave the NRL but our point of difference has been eroded

                                        Mundine was passed over because he wasn't in the same league as Daley or Fittler. The league might have been whiter, which was a reflection of the demographics in Aus at that time, but saying creative players weren't encouraged is pure boulderdash imho.

                                        See my comment above. I appear to be talking out of the wrong end right now...

                                        All good 😊
                                        There must also be a heap of NZ kids who are getting scholarships to Aus schools affiliated with the clubs. Seems the Aus scouts are better as well. How did SBW slip through the net?

                                        They pluck them out of school here, RTS played for NZ schools union and league for Otahuhu College before being signed by the Roosters. I know he isn't the only example, so I don't know what the fark the Warriors scouts are doing to earn their crust

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                                        @canefan said in NRL 2019:

                                        @Rancid-Schnitzel said in NRL 2019:

                                        @canefan said in NRL 2019:

                                        @Rancid-Schnitzel said in NRL 2019:

                                        @canefan said in NRL 2019:

                                        @Rancid-Schnitzel When I watched the Keeping the Faith doco, it was obvious how white the league was back then. Creative players like the ones at the Warriors were not encouraged (guys like Blacklock, Mundine, others were regularly passed over at rep level in favour of more steady players). These days every team has a contingent of polynesian players, all teams are scouting players in NZ, and all of the players regardless of ethnicity try to play more open. It is the gift we gave the NRL but our point of difference has been eroded

                                        Mundine was passed over because he wasn't in the same league as Daley or Fittler. The league might have been whiter, which was a reflection of the demographics in Aus at that time, but saying creative players weren't encouraged is pure boulderdash imho.

                                        See my comment above. I appear to be talking out of the wrong end right now...

                                        All good 😊
                                        There must also be a heap of NZ kids who are getting scholarships to Aus schools affiliated with the clubs. Seems the Aus scouts are better as well. How did SBW slip through the net?

                                        They pluck them out of school here, RTS played for NZ schools union and league for Otahuhu College before being signed by the Roosters. I know he isn't the only example, so I don't know what the fark the Warriors scouts are doing to earn their crust

                                        RTS was with the Warriors as a teenager.

                                        Fittler and Daley were much better than Mundine, but I think there was the odd time he was unfairly overlooked .

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                                          @Rancid-Schnitzel said in NRL 2019:

                                          @canefan said in NRL 2019:

                                          @Rancid-Schnitzel said in NRL 2019:

                                          @canefan said in NRL 2019:

                                          @Rancid-Schnitzel When I watched the Keeping the Faith doco, it was obvious how white the league was back then. Creative players like the ones at the Warriors were not encouraged (guys like Blacklock, Mundine, others were regularly passed over at rep level in favour of more steady players). These days every team has a contingent of polynesian players, all teams are scouting players in NZ, and all of the players regardless of ethnicity try to play more open. It is the gift we gave the NRL but our point of difference has been eroded

                                          Mundine was passed over because he wasn't in the same league as Daley or Fittler. The league might have been whiter, which was a reflection of the demographics in Aus at that time, but saying creative players weren't encouraged is pure boulderdash imho.

                                          See my comment above. I appear to be talking out of the wrong end right now...

                                          All good 😊
                                          There must also be a heap of NZ kids who are getting scholarships to Aus schools affiliated with the clubs. Seems the Aus scouts are better as well. How did SBW slip through the net?

                                          I'm amazed at the amount of NRL players that are NZ qualified. Which makes the under performance of the Warriors and the Test team bewildering.

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                                          @antipodean said in NRL 2019:

                                          @Rancid-Schnitzel said in NRL 2019:

                                          @canefan said in NRL 2019:

                                          @Rancid-Schnitzel said in NRL 2019:

                                          @canefan said in NRL 2019:

                                          @Rancid-Schnitzel When I watched the Keeping the Faith doco, it was obvious how white the league was back then. Creative players like the ones at the Warriors were not encouraged (guys like Blacklock, Mundine, others were regularly passed over at rep level in favour of more steady players). These days every team has a contingent of polynesian players, all teams are scouting players in NZ, and all of the players regardless of ethnicity try to play more open. It is the gift we gave the NRL but our point of difference has been eroded

                                          Mundine was passed over because he wasn't in the same league as Daley or Fittler. The league might have been whiter, which was a reflection of the demographics in Aus at that time, but saying creative players weren't encouraged is pure boulderdash imho.

                                          See my comment above. I appear to be talking out of the wrong end right now...

                                          All good 😊
                                          There must also be a heap of NZ kids who are getting scholarships to Aus schools affiliated with the clubs. Seems the Aus scouts are better as well. How did SBW slip through the net?

                                          I'm amazed at the amount of NRL players that are NZ qualified. Which makes the under performance of the Warriors and the Test team bewildering.

                                          The under performance of the test team in recent years is down to Kidwell. Even with the amount of Kiwi qualified players we still don’t come close to the depth of Oz so we’re always a bit behind the 8 ball. We’ve usually struggled for at least one decent half out of two and have had to resort to Harris.

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