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Los Pumas vs Springboks

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    https://twitter.com/lospumas/status/1158834999648575492

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      So Agustin Creevy back from injury, Guido Petti moved to the bench and Tomás Lavanini rested, with Matías Alemanno and Marcos Kremer getting a start instead. Emiliano Boffelli also back.

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        So Agustin Creevy back from injury, Guido Petti moved to the bench and Tomás Lavanini rested, with Matías Alemanno and Marcos Kremer getting a start instead. Emiliano Boffelli also back.

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        @Stargazer said in Los Pumas vs Springboks:

        So Agustin Creevy back from injury, Guido Petti moved to the bench and Tomás Lavanini rested, with Matías Alemanno and Marcos Kremer getting a start instead. Emiliano Boffelli also back.

        Matias Orlando also not considered due to minor injury/rest

        Plus the return of Gonzalo Bertranou from log term injury Had a few games for Jaguares XV in CC to get fit again

        Return of Benjamin Urdapilleta to Int'l rugby after 6 year absence is something to look out for

        Guy has a good record with Castres in Top 14

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          South Africa: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 Cheslin Kolbe, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Makazole Mapimpi, 10 Handré Pollard, 9 Faf de Klerk, 8 Duane Vermeulen (captain),7 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 6 Kwagga Smith, 5 Franco Mostert, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Trevor Nyakane, 2 Bongi Mbonambi, 1 Tendai Mtawarira.
          Replacements: 16 Malcolm Marx, 17 Steven Kitshoff, 18 Frans Malherbe, 19 RG Snyman, 20 Francois Louw, 21 Herschel Jantjies, 22 Frans Steyn, 23 Jesse Kriel

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            South Africa: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 Cheslin Kolbe, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Makazole Mapimpi, 10 Handré Pollard, 9 Faf de Klerk, 8 Duane Vermeulen (captain),7 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 6 Kwagga Smith, 5 Franco Mostert, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Trevor Nyakane, 2 Bongi Mbonambi, 1 Tendai Mtawarira.
            Replacements: 16 Malcolm Marx, 17 Steven Kitshoff, 18 Frans Malherbe, 19 RG Snyman, 20 Francois Louw, 21 Herschel Jantjies, 22 Frans Steyn, 23 Jesse Kriel

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            @Daffy-Jaffy pretty handy team, if not their top 15, close to their top 23

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              @Daffy-Jaffy pretty handy team, if not their top 15, close to their top 23

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              @Machpants

              It's their best Matchday 23 minus Siya Kolisi and Elton Jantjes

              Boks aren't fucking about with their squad vs Los Pumas in Salta

              I suspect things will be much changed in Pretoria

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                @Daffy-Jaffy pretty handy team, if not their top 15, close to their top 23

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                @Machpants said in Los Pumas vs Springboks:

                @Daffy-Jaffy pretty handy team, if not their top 15, close to their top 23

                What about their injured winger dyantji??

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                  @Machpants said in Los Pumas vs Springboks:

                  @Daffy-Jaffy pretty handy team, if not their top 15, close to their top 23

                  What about their injured winger dyantji??

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                  @Billy-Tell said in Los Pumas vs Springboks:

                  @Machpants said in Los Pumas vs Springboks:

                  @Daffy-Jaffy pretty handy team, if not their top 15, close to their top 23

                  What about their injured winger dyantji??

                  Yeah. He would certainly be in a best Bok XV currently.
                  Add Kolisi and Lood de Jager and that's probably the top crop currently.

                  Not sure who you leave out of the 23 though.

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                    @Billy-Tell said in Los Pumas vs Springboks:

                    @Machpants said in Los Pumas vs Springboks:

                    @Daffy-Jaffy pretty handy team, if not their top 15, close to their top 23

                    What about their injured winger dyantji??

                    Yeah. He would certainly be in a best Bok XV currently.
                    Add Kolisi and Lood de Jager and that's probably the top crop currently.

                    Not sure who you leave out of the 23 though.

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                    @Billy-Webb said in Los Pumas vs Springboks:

                    @Billy-Tell said in Los Pumas vs Springboks:

                    @Machpants said in Los Pumas vs Springboks:

                    @Daffy-Jaffy pretty handy team, if not their top 15, close to their top 23

                    What about their injured winger dyantji??

                    Yeah. He would certainly be in a best Bok XV currently.
                    Add Kolisi and Lood de Jager and that's probably the top crop currently.

                    Not sure who you leave out of the 23 though.

                    May I suggest that new halfback? He's terrible...

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                      So, if the Boks lose this one are their WC plans down the toilet. Because after the draw against the ABs they were right on song and looking the business.

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                        So, if the Boks lose this one are their WC plans down the toilet. Because after the draw against the ABs they were right on song and looking the business.

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                        @ACT-Crusader while it certainly won't aid the cause if the Boks lose, not a complete RWC train smash if they do. Boks are a long way from the finished article and will hopefully continue to improve. Whether they improve enough in time for the RWC is of course the tricky question.

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                          @Billy-Webb said in Los Pumas vs Springboks:

                          @Billy-Tell said in Los Pumas vs Springboks:

                          @Machpants said in Los Pumas vs Springboks:

                          @Daffy-Jaffy pretty handy team, if not their top 15, close to their top 23

                          What about their injured winger dyantji??

                          Yeah. He would certainly be in a best Bok XV currently.
                          Add Kolisi and Lood de Jager and that's probably the top crop currently.

                          Not sure who you leave out of the 23 though.

                          May I suggest that new halfback? He's terrible...

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                          @antipodean said in Los Pumas vs Springboks:

                          @Billy-Webb said in Los Pumas vs Springboks:

                          @Billy-Tell said in Los Pumas vs Springboks:

                          @Machpants said in Los Pumas vs Springboks:

                          @Daffy-Jaffy pretty handy team, if not their top 15, close to their top 23

                          What about their injured winger dyantji??

                          Yeah. He would certainly be in a best Bok XV currently.
                          Add Kolisi and Lood de Jager and that's probably the top crop currently.

                          Not sure who you leave out of the 23 though.

                          May I suggest that new halfback? He's terrible...

                          Hahaha. he's been a real find. 12 months ago there was just Faf and then ... nada. Now we have 2 decent scrumhalves. And Cobus Reinach is also back in the mix - apparently a much improved player from his stint up north. But I'll withold judgement on that until I see it.

                          More worrying for me is at flyhalf. After Pollard, the cupboard stocks don't fill me with confidence.

                          Oh and let me add some more of my worries: our centre pairing is hardly settled. No-one is definitively putting their hand up and becoming a must-pick. Boks need some serious improvement there too.

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                            Comprehensive SA victory there. They are my favourites for the RWC.

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                              Comprehensive SA victory there. They are my favourites for the RWC.

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                              @Billy-Tell said in Pre-RWC test matches:

                              Comprehensive SA victory there. They are my favourites for the RWC.

                              Steady on Billy

                              Boks were good but Pumas were utterly abject again

                              Relatively easy to win games when scrum can be used to win penalties and easy territory
                              Pumas were never in the game after 1st quarter

                              Boks will struggle in attack once opponents gain parity at scrum time

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                                But they're certainly biggest improvers last couple years.

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                                  SA arent exactly a dark horse, but they seem to be coming into form at the right time, similarly if Aus last night wasnt a perfect storm of them just having a good day and us not...cup looks wide open.

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                                    Congratulations to the Boks for their first major silverware in ten years.

                                    South Africa and Wales as the champions of the Southern Hemisphere and Europe are the joint RWC favourites in my humble opinion.

                                    Then not much between Ireland, NZ, England and Australia. Open tournament.

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                                      South Africa get handed the curse , no team has ever won this comp and the World Cup in the same year.

                                      Not that I believe it means anything in reality, but it is interesting how it has worked out so far.

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                                          South Africa get handed the curse , no team has ever won this comp and the World Cup in the same year.

                                          Not that I believe it means anything in reality, but it is interesting how it has worked out so far.

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                                          @kiwiinmelb said in Los Pumas vs Springboks:

                                          South Africa get handed the curse , no team has ever won this comp and the World Cup in the same year.

                                          Not that I believe it means anything in reality, but it is interesting how it has worked out so far.

                                          I am going with you on this.
                                          Not that I ever considered us - the Boks - to be any sort of favourites for the RWC anyway, but at least now we have decent albatross to point to: The curse of the Rugby Championship title 🙂

                                          But what I am pleased about is that the Boks are starting to play better rugby again. It's been a tough bunch of seasons dating back to pretty much 2009.
                                          Still a bunch of improvements possible though. Hope they keep getting better.
                                          Saw some promising signs with the de Allende - Am combination which has been missing imo to date.
                                          I'd also like to see Willie le Roux a bit more involved on attack. He's been a bit quiet.

                                          Pack looks good. No. 6 (7 for you non-Saffas) still a bit undecided for me. Would be nice to have Kolisi back in the mix.
                                          I guess the other option is a combination of Francois Louw, PS du Toit and Vermeaulen which isn't too shabby.

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