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Bledisloe #2

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  • PaekakboyzP Paekakboyz

    @pakman I think Reece is the most likely to drop out unless he has a couple of blinders. Ennor has genuine pace and similar to Bridge and BFA can play multiple positions.

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    @Paekakboyz You'd think that if Ennor was on the inside track he'd be playing in this game. If he gets picked it will be on the back of 12 minutes of test rugby.

    I'm not sure what they will do with Josh Ioane - but, if Beauden is the first choice fullback then surely you have to take Ioane to play some time in the minnow games - well, that's what I'd think.

    From the way Hansen was talking about what if Ben or Rieko blow hamstrings or tyres, I'd say they're pretty safe - so from the 17 backs in the frame (original 16 picks + Crotty) I'd think three miss out and it will be a midfielder and two outside backs - I reckon Laumape, Ennor and one of Bridge or Reece or just possibly Jordie.

    Leaving:
    Smith, Perenara, Weber
    Mo'unga, J. Ioane
    SBW, Crotty, Goodhue, ALB
    B. Barrett, R. Ioane, Smith, Bridge*, J. Barrett

    • or Reece
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    • Chris B.C Chris B.

      @Paekakboyz You'd think that if Ennor was on the inside track he'd be playing in this game. If he gets picked it will be on the back of 12 minutes of test rugby.

      I'm not sure what they will do with Josh Ioane - but, if Beauden is the first choice fullback then surely you have to take Ioane to play some time in the minnow games - well, that's what I'd think.

      From the way Hansen was talking about what if Ben or Rieko blow hamstrings or tyres, I'd say they're pretty safe - so from the 17 backs in the frame (original 16 picks + Crotty) I'd think three miss out and it will be a midfielder and two outside backs - I reckon Laumape, Ennor and one of Bridge or Reece or just possibly Jordie.

      Leaving:
      Smith, Perenara, Weber
      Mo'unga, J. Ioane
      SBW, Crotty, Goodhue, ALB
      B. Barrett, R. Ioane, Smith, Bridge*, J. Barrett

      • or Reece
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      #308

      @Chris-B I don’t think they will take Josh Ioane
      On the back of nothing
      If they want to see Bridge and Reece in a pressure situation why not Ioane
      They throw him into a WC pressure game with no experience at all I don’t think They will be planning to do that if so he should have had game time.
      Jordie will go and may cover first five in the lesser pool games

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      • ChrisC Chris

        @Chris-B I don’t think they will take Josh Ioane
        On the back of nothing
        If they want to see Bridge and Reece in a pressure situation why not Ioane
        They throw him into a WC pressure game with no experience at all I don’t think They will be planning to do that if so he should have had game time.
        Jordie will go and may cover first five in the lesser pool games

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        @Chris It certainly looks a bit that way, but it's a pretty risky approach - if one of Richie or Beauden gets broken, who sits on the bench to cover first five for the rest of the tournament?

        I'd pick Ioane, give him some time in the game vs Tonga and then more time vs Canada and Namibia.

        Seems a lot more useful than picking another outside back.

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        • Chris B.C Chris B.

          @Chris It certainly looks a bit that way, but it's a pretty risky approach - if one of Richie or Beauden gets broken, who sits on the bench to cover first five for the rest of the tournament?

          I'd pick Ioane, give him some time in the game vs Tonga and then more time vs Canada and Namibia.

          Seems a lot more useful than picking another outside back.

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          @Chris-B said in Bledisloe #2:

          @Chris It certainly looks a bit that way, but it's a pretty risky approach - if one of Richie or Beauden gets broken, who sits on the bench to cover first five for the rest of the tournament?

          I'd pick Ioane, give him some time in the game vs Tonga and then more time vs Canada and Namibia.

          Seems a lot more useful than picking another outside back.

          In that scenario they can bring Ioane in - it means whoever he is replacing however is out for the tournament.

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          • ChrisC Chris

            @Chris-B I don’t think they will take Josh Ioane
            On the back of nothing
            If they want to see Bridge and Reece in a pressure situation why not Ioane
            They throw him into a WC pressure game with no experience at all I don’t think They will be planning to do that if so he should have had game time.
            Jordie will go and may cover first five in the lesser pool games

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            @Chris said in Bledisloe #2:

            If they want to see Bridge and Reece in a pressure situation why not Ioane

            Because they want to retain the Bled?
            It's unlikely that the wings will have as much influence on the game as the 1st five.

            I suppose that if we end up down to our third 10 (again) in Japan then he will just have to deal with it. The squad size is just too small for the world cup to take them all (and I think they have left it too late to play some of these guys now that we have had a draw and a loss).

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              @Chris-B said in Bledisloe #2:

              @Chris It certainly looks a bit that way, but it's a pretty risky approach - if one of Richie or Beauden gets broken, who sits on the bench to cover first five for the rest of the tournament?

              I'd pick Ioane, give him some time in the game vs Tonga and then more time vs Canada and Namibia.

              Seems a lot more useful than picking another outside back.

              In that scenario they can bring Ioane in - it means whoever he is replacing however is out for the tournament.

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              @KiwiMurph Yes - but, also, if say, it happened in the final pool match it would mean Ioane sitting on the bench in a RWC play-off game having never played a minute of test rugby.

              My plan would at least have him with some time under his belt.

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              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                @KiwiMurph Yes - but, also, if say, it happened in the final pool match it would mean Ioane sitting on the bench in a RWC play-off game having never played a minute of test rugby.

                My plan would at least have him with some time under his belt.

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                @Chris-B said in Bledisloe #2:

                @KiwiMurph Yes - but, also, if say, it happened in the final pool match it would mean Ioane sitting on the bench in a RWC play-off game having never played a minute of test rugby.

                My plan would at least have him with some time under his belt.

                Maybe they think and experienced out of position guy (TJ or Jordie) would be a better bet than Ioane even if he had a Test or two?

                My preference would be a real ten though

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                • DuluthD Duluth

                  @Chris-B said in Bledisloe #2:

                  @KiwiMurph Yes - but, also, if say, it happened in the final pool match it would mean Ioane sitting on the bench in a RWC play-off game having never played a minute of test rugby.

                  My plan would at least have him with some time under his belt.

                  Maybe they think and experienced out of position guy (TJ or Jordie) would be a better bet than Ioane even if he had a Test or two?

                  My preference would be a real ten though

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                  @Duluth said in Bledisloe #2:

                  @Chris-B said in Bledisloe #2:

                  @KiwiMurph Yes - but, also, if say, it happened in the final pool match it would mean Ioane sitting on the bench in a RWC play-off game having never played a minute of test rugby.

                  My plan would at least have him with some time under his belt.

                  Maybe they think and experienced out of position guy (TJ or Jordie) would be a better bet than Ioane even if he had a Test or two?

                  My preference would be a real ten though

                  They're in dreamland if they do! 🙂

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                    They're probably also counting on it that both RM and BB can play the full 80 (if they can stay fit).

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                    • DuluthD Duluth

                      @Chris-B said in Bledisloe #2:

                      @KiwiMurph Yes - but, also, if say, it happened in the final pool match it would mean Ioane sitting on the bench in a RWC play-off game having never played a minute of test rugby.

                      My plan would at least have him with some time under his belt.

                      Maybe they think and experienced out of position guy (TJ or Jordie) would be a better bet than Ioane even if he had a Test or two?

                      My preference would be a real ten though

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                      @Duluth said in Bledisloe #2:

                      My preference would be a real ten though

                      have we got one?

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                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        @Duluth said in Bledisloe #2:

                        My preference would be a real ten though

                        have we got one?

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                        @mariner4life

                        Ioane

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                        • DuluthD Duluth

                          @mariner4life

                          Ioane

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                          @Duluth said in Bledisloe #2:

                          @mariner4life

                          Ioane

                          it was a poor jab aimed that the guys in front of him

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                          • DuluthD Duluth

                            @Chris-B said in Bledisloe #2:

                            @KiwiMurph Yes - but, also, if say, it happened in the final pool match it would mean Ioane sitting on the bench in a RWC play-off game having never played a minute of test rugby.

                            My plan would at least have him with some time under his belt.

                            Maybe they think and experienced out of position guy (TJ or Jordie) would be a better bet than Ioane even if he had a Test or two?

                            My preference would be a real ten though

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                            @Duluth said in Bledisloe #2:

                            @Chris-B said in Bledisloe #2:

                            @KiwiMurph Yes - but, also, if say, it happened in the final pool match it would mean Ioane sitting on the bench in a RWC play-off game having never played a minute of test rugby.

                            My plan would at least have him with some time under his belt.

                            Maybe they think and experienced out of position guy (TJ or Jordie) would be a better bet than Ioane even if he had a Test or two?

                            My preference would be a real ten though

                            I think that’s the way that will go a back up 10 not a specialist
                            Then they can hedge their bets with 4 locks and 6 LFs as they will want to take Retallick and hope he’s fit
                            4 outside backs not including BB

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                            • SnowyS Snowy

                              @Chris said in Bledisloe #2:

                              If they want to see Bridge and Reece in a pressure situation why not Ioane

                              Because they want to retain the Bled?
                              It's unlikely that the wings will have as much influence on the game as the 1st five.

                              I suppose that if we end up down to our third 10 (again) in Japan then he will just have to deal with it. The squad size is just too small for the world cup to take them all (and I think they have left it too late to play some of these guys now that we have had a draw and a loss).

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                              @Snowy said in Bledisloe #2:

                              @Chris said in Bledisloe #2:

                              If they want to see Bridge and Reece in a pressure situation why not Ioane

                              Because they want to retain the Bled?
                              It's unlikely that the wings will have as much influence on the game as the 1st five.

                              I suppose that if we end up down to our third 10 (again) in Japan then he will just have to deal with it. The squad size is just too small for the world cup to take them all (and I think they have left it too late to play some of these guys now that we have had a draw and a loss).

                              Yep no doubt but I think it’s getting clearer what their 31 will be.i can’t see them taking someone who hasn’t played some pressure time if they do then everything Hansen’s been saying has been BS
                              It maybe Bridge and Reece are playing for one spot Saturday if they are taking Bender and Jordie

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                                Not sure if it's been posted, but the TAB have the Wobbles at $4.85. If you fancy some cheap loss insurance for the Bled, you're in luck. Lazy 25 returns $120...

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                                • nzzpN nzzp

                                  Not sure if it's been posted, but the TAB have the Wobbles at $4.85. If you fancy some cheap loss insurance for the Bled, you're in luck. Lazy 25 returns $120...

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                                  @nzzp said in Bledisloe #2:

                                  Not sure if it's been posted, but the TAB have the Wobbles at $4.85. If you fancy throwing your money away

                                  Fixed.

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                                    $4.85? I didn't know Hansen was moonlighting at the TAB.

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                                    • NTAN NTA

                                      @nzzp said in Bledisloe #2:

                                      Not sure if it's been posted, but the TAB have the Wobbles at $4.85. If you fancy throwing your money away

                                      Fixed.

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                                      @NTA said in Bledisloe #2:

                                      @nzzp said in Bledisloe #2:

                                      Not sure if it's been posted, but the TAB have the Wobbles at $4.85. If you fancy throwing your money away

                                      Fixed.

                                      Really? They bring it like last week, they're easily a shot

                                      Edit: and what if we get a card again? huh? What about that? eh?

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                                      • nzzpN nzzp

                                        @NTA said in Bledisloe #2:

                                        @nzzp said in Bledisloe #2:

                                        Not sure if it's been posted, but the TAB have the Wobbles at $4.85. If you fancy throwing your money away

                                        Fixed.

                                        Really? They bring it like last week, they're easily a shot

                                        Edit: and what if we get a card again? huh? What about that? eh?

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                                        @nzzp Is Jerome Garces reffing?

                                        Both our red cards in the modern era have come from him...not that he had much choice in either incident, but interesting...

                                        Wonder what are our YC stats are like under him?

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                                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                          @nzzp Is Jerome Garces reffing?

                                          Both our red cards in the modern era have come from him...not that he had much choice in either incident, but interesting...

                                          Wonder what are our YC stats are like under him?

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                                          @taniwharugby They are saving Garces for the RWC match vs SA. Peyper.

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