Bledisloe #2

NTA

I still don't think our personell and tactics is going to be this effective against certain teams. The wallabies rolled over a bit today.

That is true to a degree - those two quick tries seemed to put us straight back on the rails to Shitsville.

Where last week we held the ball and bashed it up in close, this week we either kicked it away aimlessly, or ran it into that pointless second channel.

There were some nice moves and even a couple of line breaks, but the execution - particularly from Hodge who had a 'mare - was woeful.

Victor Meldrew

@mariner4life said in Bledisloe #2:

Frank's and Smith might be done for good

Think BFA will be in RWC squad as utilty back.

Franks, legend that he is/was, could well be gone. Being dropped is a sad way to end a pretty farking distinguished career in Black.

rotated

@Canerbry said in Bledisloe #2:

@ACT-Crusader and former Crusader SBW

Hasnen's substitutions?
Marshall's commentary?
Australia would look better with Ioane on the wing?

Old Samurai Jack

Yep, great result and some things were magic to see; kicking for the corners and putting pressure on them to exit, exiting the 22 with minimum drama, sucking in the opposition forwards with mauls and pick and go's, contesting the breakdowns with counter rucking, etc.
Still not convinced we have the team to take out some of the Northern teams. I think if we go back to 2018/early 2019 type we will exit the World cup early. I mean why would you play a stupid game plan and "perfect" it for 2-3 years just to change now. I am friggen confused! It is a small hope the rest of the world is too, and Hansen and co are genius's but Foster is there so ......

pakman

@NTA said in Bledisloe #2:

@pakman said in Bledisloe #2:

@NTA said in Bledisloe #2:

Brainless shit.

Ouch. How much was Coleman in Arnold out a factor? Scrum depowered, and ruck cleanouts much less effective. Former is enthusiastic but another Coles man?

I don't think the scrum was much more than getting outsmarted. Coleman's idiocy at lineout surrendered some early territory.

The ruck work was pretty much everyone. Back to the past.

What do you make of Ofa at LH? He looked OK to me today against Tupou.

sparky

Great performance, especially keeping Australia to nil. Coming of Age for Patrick T, Mo'unga, Bridge and Reece. Ardie Savea awesome as ever. Kieran Read and SBW not bad at all for old men, signature games in the Black Jersey from them both.

The powder is no longer dry.

Australia unable to lift themselves to hit such high standards two weeks in a row. They remain dangerous and there are other quality sides out there who will be a threat on their day.

NTA

@pakman said in Bledisloe #2:

@NTA said in Bledisloe #2:

@pakman said in Bledisloe #2:

@NTA said in Bledisloe #2:

Brainless shit.

Ouch. How much was Coleman in Arnold out a factor? Scrum depowered, and ruck cleanouts much less effective. Former is enthusiastic but another Coles man?

I don't think the scrum was much more than getting outsmarted. Coleman's idiocy at lineout surrendered some early territory.

The ruck work was pretty much everyone. Back to the past.

What do you make of Ofa at LH? He looked OK to me today against Tupou.

I think the work from the second row made everything look better. I wasn't really paying attention to the replacement of Moody tbh. It seemed after a couple of decisions Jaco was just happy to let the scrums turn into a mess in the second half

sparky

@canefan said in Bledisloe #2:

Sonny quietly had one of his better games in black

Sonny was excellent night. Solid in defence. Distributed well, some good offloads, ran at the gainline hard and took his try chance very well.

pakman

@NTA said in Bledisloe #2:

@pakman said in Bledisloe #2:

@NTA said in Bledisloe #2:

@pakman said in Bledisloe #2:

@NTA said in Bledisloe #2:

Brainless shit.

Ouch. How much was Coleman in Arnold out a factor? Scrum depowered, and ruck cleanouts much less effective. Former is enthusiastic but another Coles man?

I don't think the scrum was much more than getting outsmarted. Coleman's idiocy at lineout surrendered some early territory.

The ruck work was pretty much everyone. Back to the past.

What do you make of Ofa at LH? He looked OK to me today against Tupou.

I think the work from the second row made everything look better. I wasn't really paying attention to the replacement of Moody tbh. It seemed after a couple of decisions Jaco was just happy to let the scrums turn into a mess in the second half

Fair enough. Don't think Oz TH lock was supporting Tupou that well.

NTA

@pakman our second row was ordinary. Poor cohesion in the tight five in general

DMX

First game in a long time where certain guys needed to stand up and they all did. Sevu and Bridge surely have played there way into the starting lineup , Ioane and Smith played their way out. I honestly think Reiko is in danger of not going to the World Cup, right now I would not trust him in a big game. Would think Franks in some danger too, but I would still trust Bender in case of injuries though Jordie definitely put his hand up for that role. Finally twin pivots and dual openside loonies seem to have gelled , throw in Aaron Smith kicking well again and Future looks good.

Stargazer

booboo

@mariner4life said in Bledisloe #2:

That was a mile forward

Was tha the one Krusty went off at? Jeeze he is Mickey Mouse huh?

Peyper had some issues with forward passes. Missed a whole heap.

booboo

@Donsteppa said in Bledisloe #2:

An over-complicated mess.

Lineout? ABs over complicated a couole of lineouts the had no need to.

booboo

@Higgins said in Bledisloe #2:

What a blantant taking out of black 9 by yellow 3 miles behind the ABs hindmost foot.

No YC for that. Where was Jonkers?

booboo

@mariner4life said in Bledisloe #2:

Nice dive White. Plant the seed

Farking soccer bullshit wasn't it?

booboo

@Donsteppa said in Bledisloe #2:

Thank goodness for that!!!!

Interesting reading the thread. Up tp this point - the Mo'unga try - it's pretty much been the worst performance since 1991 (we did win that game @Donsteppa ).

Inept, disorganised, outplayed, not fired up.

In contrast, personally at that stage I felt we were looking good just hadn't scored enough points.

I look forward to seeing if the mood changes through the rest of the thread.

booboo

@Gunner said in Bledisloe #2:

Aussies are taking All Blacks out further away from the ball than that.

Shit, shit call. No way that’s a yellow.

You nearly had an upvote fir the first para. Lost it for the second. Definite yellow.

African Monkey

It was only the Wallabies. Much tougher tests to come yet.

kiwiinmelb

Interesting comments by Hansen on coles , reading between the lines,I’m guessing there was a premeditated plan to Make life difficult for the halfback, but he took it too far . And he will deal with it behind closed doors.

The Silver Fern

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