All Blacks vs Tonga
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
If Josh Ioane is not in the squad - and I don't expect them to pick him - then I'd like TWM to try out the "injured 10" scenario in the second half of this game. So start BB or RM at 10 in this game, and replace him in the game management role by the best playmaker of the non-first fives (I think that's probably Crotty) and make sure you have a good goal kicker on the field (Jordie), and see how that goes. If it's not Crotty, it needs to be another experienced back with excellent organisation and communication skills. To me, that's not Jordie.
Sounds like a job for Michael Collins.
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"With respect to sanction the Foul Play Review Committee deemed the act of foul play merited a mid-range entry point of 6 weeks due to World Rugby instructions that dictate any incident of foul play which results in contact with the head and/or neck must start at a mid-range level. However, taking into account mitigating factors including the Player's exemplary judicial record, his expressed remorse and the fact the Player has pleaded guilty at the first available opportunity, the Foul Play Review Committee reduced the suspension to 3 weeks." "The Foul Play Review Committee adjourned the hearing to seek more evidence regarding the Player's proposed schedule of matches. Upon reconvening the Foul Play Review Committee was presented with extensive evidence demonstrating the Player's intended playing schedule." "The player is therefore suspended for 3 weeks, up to and including Sunday 1 September 2019.”So that's Bledisloe 2, Taranaki v Northland and Taranaki v Ta$man.
@Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
"With respect to sanction the Foul Play Review Committee deemed the act of foul play merited a mid-range entry point of 6 weeks due to World Rugby instructions that dictate any incident of foul play which results in contact with the head and/or neck must start at a mid-range level. However, taking into account mitigating factors including the Player's exemplary judicial record, his expressed remorse and the fact the Player has pleaded guilty at the first available opportunity, the Foul Play Review Committee reduced the suspension to 3 weeks." "The Foul Play Review Committee adjourned the hearing to seek more evidence regarding the Player's proposed schedule of matches. Upon reconvening the Foul Play Review Committee was presented with extensive evidence demonstrating the Player's intended playing schedule." "The player is therefore suspended for 3 weeks, up to and including Sunday 1 September 2019.”So that's Bledisloe 2, Taranaki v Northland and Taranaki v Ta$man.
my bad for some reason I thought Tonga was two weeks time, maths not my strong point
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@Stargazer
As long as try this out before they pick the RWC squad, not afterwards so just to demonstrate to us all how farked we will be.@Rapido said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
@Stargazer
As long as try this out before they pick the RWC squad, not afterwards so just to demonstrate to us all how farked we will be.I'm sure they're trying it in camp
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@Rapido said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
@Stargazer
As long as try this out before they pick the RWC squad, not afterwards so just to demonstrate to us all how farked we will be.I'm sure they're trying it in camp
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
@Rapido said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
@Stargazer
As long as try this out before they pick the RWC squad, not afterwards so just to demonstrate to us all how farked we will be.I'm sure they're trying it in camp
Wish there was a camping world cup in September
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@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
@Rapido said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
@Stargazer
As long as try this out before they pick the RWC squad, not afterwards so just to demonstrate to us all how farked we will be.I'm sure they're trying it in camp
Wish there was a camping world cup in September
@Rapido said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
@Rapido said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
@Stargazer
As long as try this out before they pick the RWC squad, not afterwards so just to demonstrate to us all how farked we will be.I'm sure they're trying it in camp
Wish there was a camping world cup in September
Wallabies would win that, their training is reputedly (by themselves) to be the best in the world.
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@Rapido said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
@Rapido said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
@Stargazer
As long as try this out before they pick the RWC squad, not afterwards so just to demonstrate to us all how farked we will be.I'm sure they're trying it in camp
Wish there was a camping world cup in September
Wallabies would win that, their training is reputedly (by themselves) to be the best in the world.
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
@Rapido said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
@Machpants said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
@Rapido said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
@Stargazer
As long as try this out before they pick the RWC squad, not afterwards so just to demonstrate to us all how farked we will be.I'm sure they're trying it in camp
Wish there was a camping world cup in September
Wallabies would win that, their training is reputedly (by themselves) to be the best in the world.
I call BS. The Boks have the best training methods
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=3535487&pnum=2
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I dunno, you can't beat it when Foolau is shut up
@Machpants Copycats
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Team I'd pencil in for this one
Atu Moli, Liam Coltman, Angus Ta'avao, Patrick Tuitupolou, Sam Whitelock, Luke Jacobson, Matt Todd, Ardie Savea, Brad Weber, Josh Ioane (although he won't be in main RWC squad), George Bridge, Ryan Crotty, Reiko Ioane, Sevu Reece, Ben Smith
Bench: Dane Coles, Ofa T, Nepo Laulala, Scott Barrett, Kieran Read, TJP, SBW, Jordie Barrett
Opportunity to try out a few things, give first Test starts to a few of the squad and a chance to say goodbye to guys going offshore after the RWC.
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Team I'd pencil in for this one
Atu Moli, Liam Coltman, Angus Ta'avao, Patrick Tuitupolou, Sam Whitelock, Luke Jacobson, Matt Todd, Ardie Savea, Brad Weber, Josh Ioane (although he won't be in main RWC squad), George Bridge, Ryan Crotty, Reiko Ioane, Sevu Reece, Ben Smith
Bench: Dane Coles, Ofa T, Nepo Laulala, Scott Barrett, Kieran Read, TJP, SBW, Jordie Barrett
Opportunity to try out a few things, give first Test starts to a few of the squad and a chance to say goodbye to guys going offshore after the RWC.
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
Team I'd pencil in for this one
Atu Moli, Liam Coltman, Angus Ta'avao, Patrick Tuitupolou, Sam Whitelock, Luke Jacobson, Matt Todd, Ardie Savea, Brad Weber, Josh Ioane (although he won't be in main RWC squad), George Bridge, Ryan Crotty, Reiko Ioane, Sevu Reece, Ben Smith
Bench: Dane Coles, Ofa T, Nepo Laulala, Scott Barrett, Kieran Read, TJP, SBW, Jordie Barrett
Opportunity to try out a few things, give first Test starts to a few of the squad and a chance to say goodbye to guys going offshore after the RWC.
Sam W too valuable to risk.
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@sparky said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
Team I'd pencil in for this one
Atu Moli, Liam Coltman, Angus Ta'avao, Patrick Tuitupolou, Sam Whitelock, Luke Jacobson, Matt Todd, Ardie Savea, Brad Weber, Josh Ioane (although he won't be in main RWC squad), George Bridge, Ryan Crotty, Reiko Ioane, Sevu Reece, Ben Smith
Bench: Dane Coles, Ofa T, Nepo Laulala, Scott Barrett, Kieran Read, TJP, SBW, Jordie Barrett
Opportunity to try out a few things, give first Test starts to a few of the squad and a chance to say goodbye to guys going offshore after the RWC.
Sam W too valuable to risk.
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@pakman Possibly. Lineout vulnerable without him, Retallick and Read. A problem we will have to get used to in 2020.
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I think we may see a close to strength 23 for this test.They may need a blow out before the Wc after a 3 week break.
I am sure we will have game scenarios and inter squad run outs within the camp.
But I can see The coaches wanting to fine tune before the Boks.
If they are going to worry about injuries for this game then we worry through the pool games.You can't think that way need to be match harden for the Boks. -
I think we may see a close to strength 23 for this test.They may need a blow out before the Wc after a 3 week break.
I am sure we will have game scenarios and inter squad run outs within the camp.
But I can see The coaches wanting to fine tune before the Boks.
If they are going to worry about injuries for this game then we worry through the pool games.You can't think that way need to be match harden for the Boks. -
@CO This articles suggests that we will see most of the AB top 23 against Tonga. It is a warm-up game ahead of South Africa:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12259569
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Ardie Savea needs some rest, as does Sam Whitelock. Moreover, they are too important for the team so they should not be risked against a physical outfit like Tonga. My guess :
Moli Coltman Franks Hemopo Tuipolutu Fifita Cane (capt) Jacobson Weber Ioane Ioane Laumape Ennor Reece J Barrett
I know that a Hemopo - Tuipolutu combination in the second row is not very complementary but Whitelock has to be spared.
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Ardie Savea needs some rest, as does Sam Whitelock. Moreover, they are too important for the team so they should not be risked against a physical outfit like Tonga. My guess :
Moli Coltman Franks Hemopo Tuipolutu Fifita Cane (capt) Jacobson Weber Ioane Ioane Laumape Ennor Reece J Barrett
I know that a Hemopo - Tuipolutu combination in the second row is not very complementary but Whitelock has to be spared.
@cgrant said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
Ardie Savea needs some rest, as does Sam Whitelock. Moreover, they are too important for the team so they should not be risked against a physical outfit like Tonga. My guess :
Moli Coltman Franks Hemopo Tuipolutu Fifita Cane (capt) Jacobson Weber Ioane Ioane Laumape Ennor Reece J Barrett
I know that a Hemopo - Tuipolutu combination in the second row is not very complementary but Whitelock has to be spared.
Maybe but the flip side is no real rugby
For 5 weeks if they don’t play .Then out against the Boks that’s a tough ask for those boys they have 3 weeks to the Tongan test. -
Ardie Savea needs some rest, as does Sam Whitelock. Moreover, they are too important for the team so they should not be risked against a physical outfit like Tonga. My guess :
Moli Coltman Franks Hemopo Tuipolutu Fifita Cane (capt) Jacobson Weber Ioane Ioane Laumape Ennor Reece J Barrett
I know that a Hemopo - Tuipolutu combination in the second row is not very complementary but Whitelock has to be spared.
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@cgrant said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
Ardie Savea needs some rest, as does Sam Whitelock. Moreover, they are too important for the team so they should not be risked against a physical outfit like Tonga. My guess :
Moli Coltman Franks Hemopo Tuipolutu Fifita Cane (capt) Jacobson Weber Ioane Ioane Laumape Ennor Reece J Barrett
I know that a Hemopo - Tuipolutu combination in the second row is not very complementary but Whitelock has to be spared.
Maybe but the flip side is no real rugby
For 5 weeks if they don’t play .Then out against the Boks that’s a tough ask for those boys they have 3 weeks to the Tongan test.@CO said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
Maybe but the flip side is no real rugby
For 5 weeks if they don’t play .Then out against the Boks that’s a tough ask for those boys they have 3 weeks to the Tongan test.Excuse me, but the Mitre 10 Cup is currently being staged. It is real rugby as S Barrett has two of those games listed as stand down matches counting toward his suspension. If he was down to play those games than there is scope for the entire squad to do likewise during the weeks before the 'Ikale Tahi game.
