All Blacks vs Tonga
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@CO said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
Maybe but the flip side is no real rugby
For 5 weeks if they don’t play .Then out against the Boks that’s a tough ask for those boys they have 3 weeks to the Tongan test.Excuse me, but the Mitre 10 Cup is currently being staged. It is real rugby as S Barrett has two of those games listed as stand down matches counting toward his suspension. If he was down to play those games than there is scope for the entire squad to do likewise during the weeks before the 'Ikale Tahi game.
@Higgins said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
@CO said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
Maybe but the flip side is no real rugby
For 5 weeks if they don’t play .Then out against the Boks that’s a tough ask for those boys they have 3 weeks to the Tongan test.Excuse me, but the Mitre 10 Cup is currently being staged. It is real rugby as S Barrett has two of those games listed as stand down matches counting toward his suspension. If he was down to play those games than there is scope for the entire squad to do likewise during the weeks before the 'Ikale Tahi game.
Didn't say is wasn't what I said was that most of the 23 will play against Tonga they will not play NPC so will not have had real rugby.
Quote from the Hansen interview after Bledisloe 2
"Hansen intends to play most of his front-liners against the Tongans in order to keep them ticking over for next month's tournament in Japan and we will get a better idea of who they are when he announces his 31-player squad a week on Wednesday".
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Sam Whitelock, Ardie and BB should be given a rest as they have clocked up a lot of minutes already in 2019.
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@Stargazer I am weary of players being knackered by October because of too many minutes on the park in one year. Think of how tired many ABs were by the time of the Dublin game last year or against England in 2012.
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@Stargazer I am weary of players being knackered by October because of too many minutes on the park in one year. Think of how tired many ABs were by the time of the Dublin game last year or against England in 2012.
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
@Stargazer I am weary of players being knackered by October because of too many minutes on the park in one year. Think of his tired many ABs were by the time of the Dublin game last year or against England in 2012.
Yeah but if they don't play any Rugby until WC V Boks its 5 weeks you need to be match harden not conditioned.
I would be worried if we don't play for 5 weeks then play the Boks first up we will be under done.
Then if we lose what do we do play our top players right through to get them match fit.
I think they will rest them for the 2 weeks play Tonga then 2 weeks rest until the Boks. -
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
@Stargazer I am weary of players being knackered by October because of too many minutes on the park in one year. Think of his tired many ABs were by the time of the Dublin game last year or against England in 2012.
Yeah but if they don't play any Rugby until WC V Boks its 5 weeks you need to be match harden not conditioned.
I would be worried if we don't play for 5 weeks then play the Boks first up we will be under done.
Then if we lose what do we do play our top players right through to get them match fit.
I think they will rest them for the 2 weeks play Tonga then 2 weeks rest until the Boks. -
@CO I am sure that most of the first-choice 23 will play against Tonga, not least because Hansen has said so.
Mind you, Iuspect he won't want to give too much else away to the Saffas. We are back to keeping the powder dry again.
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@Stargazer I am weary of players being knackered by October because of too many minutes on the park in one year. Think of how tired many ABs were by the time of the Dublin game last year or against England in 2012.
@sparky said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
@Stargazer I am weary of players being knackered by October because of too many minutes on the park in one year. Think of how tired many ABs were by the time of the Dublin game last year or against England in 2012.
Not a real problem this RWC. Last one we had RC and some NH visiting tests. This year only 5 tests pre RWC, not eight. Also most NH teams have gone from their top League, mixed with 6n, into long long camps and now are playing up to 4 pre cup games.
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First choice backline if he's got any brains in his head. The Barrett Mounga thing still needs bedding in in actual game situations, Smith and Mounga need more time together, we don't even know what the first choice midfield is, let alone have an established combination, and half the people on here think we have brand new starting wingers.
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Who do the Boks play between now and that first game? Good chance they will be as “under done” as us.
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
@pukunui Yep, South Africa plays Japan in Japan in the same weekend we play Tonga.
Tough game for them!
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
@pukunui Yep, South Africa plays Japan in Japan in the same weekend we play Tonga.
That's correct. It is the last international for the Boks before RWC starts.
From now until then it is apparently all: "team building exercises, some minor conditioning and some field sessions and a series of technical activities." Whatever the heck that means.
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
@pukunui Yep, South Africa plays Japan in Japan in the same weekend we play Tonga.
Tough game for them!
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
@pukunui Yep, South Africa plays Japan in Japan in the same weekend we play Tonga.
Tough game for them!
The Japs going for two in a row against them!
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@pakman said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
@pukunui Yep, South Africa plays Japan in Japan in the same weekend we play Tonga.
Tough game for them!
The Japs going for two in a row against them!
@Higgins said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
@pukunui Yep, South Africa plays Japan in Japan in the same weekend we play Tonga.
Tough game for them!
The Japs going for two in a row against them!
Japs verses Jaaps. Interesting stuff.
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
@pukunui Yep, South Africa plays Japan in Japan in the same weekend we play Tonga.
That's correct. It is the last international for the Boks before RWC starts.
From now until then it is apparently all: "team building exercises, some minor conditioning and some field sessions and a series of technical activities." Whatever the heck that means.
@Billy-Webb said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
@pukunui Yep, South Africa plays Japan in Japan in the same weekend we play Tonga.
That's correct. It is the last international for the Boks before RWC starts.
From now until then it is apparently all: "team building exercises, some minor conditioning and some field sessions and a series of technical activities." Whatever the heck that means.
Kamp Staaldrad apparently.
And making Pacts.
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@pakman said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
@pukunui Yep, South Africa plays Japan in Japan in the same weekend we play Tonga.
Tough game for them!
The Japs going for two in a row against them!
@Higgins said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
@pakman said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
@pukunui Yep, South Africa plays Japan in Japan in the same weekend we play Tonga.
Tough game for them!
The Japs going for two in a row against them!
Generous of Japan to put their 100% winning record on the line.
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The day-time Test in Hamilton will be the last hit-out for both sides before they depart for the World Cup in Japan and All Blacks coach Steve Hansen has given a strong indication that he will select a near front-line team for the match. "We'd like probably most of the frontliners to get some form of game-time in the Tonga game, otherwise it's too big a break before we play South Africa," Hansen said.Before the September 7 clash at FMG Stadium in Hamilton, the All Blacks will announce their 31-man Rugby World Cup squad at 12pm on Wednesday 28 August. The announcement will be broadcast live on Spark Sport and the All Blacks facebook page and is sure to contain one or two surprises given the fierce competition for places in the squad.The clash in Hamilton will be the first day-time Test for the All Blacks since they played Canada in the 2011 Rugby World Cup in Wellington.https://allblacks.com/News/34600/full-strength-all-blacks-likely-for-tonga-test
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The day-time Test in Hamilton will be the last hit-out for both sides before they depart for the World Cup in Japan and All Blacks coach Steve Hansen has given a strong indication that he will select a near front-line team for the match. "We'd like probably most of the frontliners to get some form of game-time in the Tonga game, otherwise it's too big a break before we play South Africa," Hansen said.Before the September 7 clash at FMG Stadium in Hamilton, the All Blacks will announce their 31-man Rugby World Cup squad at 12pm on Wednesday 28 August. The announcement will be broadcast live on Spark Sport and the All Blacks facebook page and is sure to contain one or two surprises given the fierce competition for places in the squad.The clash in Hamilton will be the first day-time Test for the All Blacks since they played Canada in the 2011 Rugby World Cup in Wellington.https://allblacks.com/News/34600/full-strength-all-blacks-likely-for-tonga-test
@Stargazer Well we know that the Boks will rollout their strongest side vs Japan, they have to!
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The day-time Test in Hamilton will be the last hit-out for both sides before they depart for the World Cup in Japan and All Blacks coach Steve Hansen has given a strong indication that he will select a near front-line team for the match. "We'd like probably most of the frontliners to get some form of game-time in the Tonga game, otherwise it's too big a break before we play South Africa," Hansen said.Before the September 7 clash at FMG Stadium in Hamilton, the All Blacks will announce their 31-man Rugby World Cup squad at 12pm on Wednesday 28 August. The announcement will be broadcast live on Spark Sport and the All Blacks facebook page and is sure to contain one or two surprises given the fierce competition for places in the squad.The clash in Hamilton will be the first day-time Test for the All Blacks since they played Canada in the 2011 Rugby World Cup in Wellington.https://allblacks.com/News/34600/full-strength-all-blacks-likely-for-tonga-test
@Stargazer said in All Blacks vs Tonga:
The day-time Test in Hamilton will be the last hit-out for both sides before they depart for the World Cup in Japan and All Blacks coach Steve Hansen has given a strong indication that he will select a near front-line team for the match. "We'd like probably most of the frontliners to get some form of game-time in the Tonga game, otherwise it's too big a break before we play South Africa," Hansen said.Before the September 7 clash at FMG Stadium in Hamilton, the All Blacks will announce their 31-man Rugby World Cup squad at 12pm on Wednesday 28 August. The announcement will be broadcast live on Spark Sport and the All Blacks facebook page and is sure to contain one or two surprises given the fierce competition for places in the squad.**The clash in Hamilton will be the first day-time Test for the All Blacks since they played Canada in the 2011 Rugby World Cup in Wellington**https://allblacks.com/News/34600/full-strength-all-blacks-likely-for-tonga-testWasn’t the game against Samoa in 2015 during the day? Maybe they mean in NZ.
Edit: Dammit, the last paragraph was meant to be bold but I don’t know how the work the formatting.
