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NFL 2015

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    #204

    <p>The Cowboys scored enough points to win the game with a serviceable Weeden at QB.  It was the defence that let them down.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I read a comment that Hayne has moved to the Eels of the NFL.</p>

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    • SneakdefreakS Offline
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      <p>Hayne was the only good thing about the 49ers today. CKap lost the game by himself - doesn't seem to know when to stand and pass or when to run. Tries to do both and boom, pick 6. Twice.</p>
      <p> </p>
      <p>

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      • canefanC Offline
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        It's gonna be a long season sneak. To make matters worse Greg Romans seems to have the Buffalo offense clicking

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        • mariner4lifeM Offline
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          That run by Hayne was his only involvement wasn't it? Good one though

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          • canefanC Offline
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            #208

            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="mariner4life" data-cid="521200" data-time="1443436900">
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            <p>That run by Hayne was his only involvement wasn't it? Good one though</p>
            </div>
            </blockquote>
            <p>Yup, one play.  That's the joys of being in the NFL.  He got paid more dollars per metre than in the NRL though</p>

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            • NTAN Offline
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              #209

              <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="canefan" data-cid="521206" data-time="1443437846">
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              <p>Yup, one play.  That's the joys of being in the NFL.  He got paid more dollars per metre than in the NRL though</p>
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              <p> </p>
              <p>And he only has to run yards in this one!</p>

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              • NTAN Offline
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                #210

                <p>And in breaking-not-breaking news: everyone's least favourite Aboriginal Muslim Anthony Mundine belittles Jarryd Hayne's efforts. </p>
                <p> </p>
                <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.news.com.au/sport/american-sports/anthony-mundine-explains-why-hes-better-than-jarryd-hayne/story-fnq2nnu6-1227549083964'>http://www.news.com.au/sport/american-sports/anthony-mundine-explains-why-hes-better-than-jarryd-hayne/story-fnq2nnu6-1227549083964</a></p>
                <p> </p>
                <p></p><p></p><blockquote class="ipsBlockquote"><span style="color:rgb(41,41,41);font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;">“Like I said, no one’s achieved or done half of the stuff I’ve done,” Mundine said in an interview posted to the </span><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.facebook.com/Thelockerroomnetwork/videos/620404251432771/'>Facebook page of The Locker Room</a><span style="color:rgb(41,41,41);font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;">.</span>
                <p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);">“If you do your research, you’ll see that. I will never get the credit or just due that ... I’m the best athlete ever produced to come out of this country, ever. There’s no one (who has) walked my walk.</p>
                <p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);">“All the hype that Jarryd — I’m not a hater ... I’m a positive dude and send positive vibes and Jarryd Hayne, what he’s doing is magnificent.</p>
                <p style="font-family:LiberationSerifRegular, 'Times New Roman', Times, serif;font-size:19px;color:rgb(41,41,41);">“But I’ve done so much more in so much of a harder sport. To switch from a team to an individual sport as boxing. And he’s going from a team to team. He’s doing well, but it’s gonna be hard.”</p></blockquote>
                <p>Fuck, what a tool. At the end of that article it points out a few things that make Mundine look a right tool:</p>
                <p> </p>
                <p><strong>Mundine:</strong></p>
                <p>116 games for St George Illawarra, 56 tries, 11 games for Brisbane, 3 tries</p>
                <p>Origin (NSW): 3 matches, 1 try</p>
                <p>Boxing Record: 53 fights, 47 wins (27 KOs), six losses, World titles won: WBA Super Middleweight (twice), IBO World Middleweight, WBA Light Middleweight</p>
                <p> </p>
                <p><strong>Hayne:</strong></p>
                <p>176 games for Parramatta, 103 tries</p>
                <p>Origin (NSW): 20 matches, nine tries. Australia: 12 matches, 11 tries. Fiji: 4 matches, 3 tries</p>
                <p>NFL career: 3 games for San Francisco</p>
                <p> </p>
                <p>So, no boxing, but Hayne has a better strike rate at all levels in League, has played for his country (no doubt Mundine has a conspiracy theory about that) and doesn't get half his victories in his new sport through beating up fat, slow, has-beens.</p>
                <p> </p>
                <p>Fuck off Mundine. Or shut up. Or both.</p>

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                • mariner4lifeM Offline
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                  <p>Gee, what a surprise. mundine wouldn't have a "fight" coming up would he?</p>

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                  • NTAN Offline
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                    #212

                    <p>Yeah against my mother-in-law. She's paying $1.01.</p>

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                      #213

                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="NTA" data-cid="521410" data-time="1443508291">
                      <div>
                      <p>And in breaking-not-breaking news: everyone's least favourite Aboriginal Muslim Anthony Mundine belittles Jarryd Hayne's efforts. </p>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.news.com.au/sport/american-sports/anthony-mundine-explains-why-hes-better-than-jarryd-hayne/story-fnq2nnu6-1227549083964'>http://www.news.com.au/sport/american-sports/anthony-mundine-explains-why-hes-better-than-jarryd-hayne/story-fnq2nnu6-1227549083964</a></p>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p>Fuck, what a tool. At the end of that article it points out a few things that make Mundine look a right tool:</p>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p><strong>Mundine:</strong></p>
                      <p>116 games for St George Illawarra, 56 tries, 11 games for Brisbane, 3 tries</p>
                      <p>Origin (NSW): 3 matches, 1 try</p>
                      <p>Boxing Record: 53 fights, 47 wins (27 KOs), six losses, World titles won: WBA Super Middleweight (twice), IBO World Middleweight, WBA Light Middleweight</p>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p><strong>Hayne:</strong></p>
                      <p>176 games for Parramatta, 103 tries</p>
                      <p>Origin (NSW): 20 matches, nine tries. Australia: 12 matches, 11 tries. Fiji: 4 matches, 3 tries</p>
                      <p>NFL career: 3 games for San Francisco</p>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p>So, no boxing, but Hayne has a better strike rate at all levels in League, has played for his country (no doubt Mundine has a conspiracy theory about that) and doesn't get half his victories in his new sport through beating up fat, slow, has-beens.</p>
                      <p> </p>
                      <p>Fuck off Mundine. Or shut up. Or both.</p>
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                      </blockquote>
                      <p>
                      I think he has a  decent argument (to being aussies greatest) to be fair. his boxing record is very good especially as a crossover athlete and he was a very good league player. I think Hayne needs a decent crack at the NFL to be win this one. it really is a stupid argument though and hard to compare<br>
                      He loves to talk shit but so does maywether and you cant say he hasnt been very succesful</p>

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                      • NTAN Offline
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                        #214

                        <p>Mundine wasn't anywhere near the league player Hayne was, based on those stats alone. </p>
                        <p> </p>
                        <p>Some of Mundine's boxing has been good, drawing praise from even the harshest critics.</p>
                        <p> </p>
                        <p>Talented without doubt, but he spoils it with that stupid flapping thing under his nose.</p>

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                        • KiwiMurphK Online
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                          <p>The good news for Hayne is with the 49ers being so horrible - it actually increases his chances of seeing more action as they look for a spark.</p>
                          <p> </p>
                          <p>For one - it is possibl he takes over kickoff returns as DeAndrew White the rookie was poor in this regard. Wouldn't surprise me to see Hayne featured a bit in the offense too - try and get him in some space.</p>

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                          • NTAN Offline
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                            <p>What is the difference between kick returner and punt returner?</p>

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                              <p>Kick returner returns kickoffs only (at the start/half and after points have been scored) whereas punt returners return punts (when the opposition punt of 4th down). Sometimes it is the same person. Sometimes not.</p>

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                                #218

                                <p>Ah right - thanks for that. </p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>But aren't the roles pretty much the same in terms of "catch it somewhere near your line, run the fuck out of it and use the blockers" ?</p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>I suppose there are less blockers on a punt.</p>

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                                • KiwiMurphK Online
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                                  <p>Yeah - also general kick return is seen as a more dangerous role - as is more of a case of the opposition flying down the field from 70 yards away whereas from a punt there are more variables.</p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>So much so that the NFL have actually changed the rules to bring the spot of the kickoff closer to the endzone so that it is more likely to result in the ball being kicked dead (resulting in an automatic start from the 20 yard line) or result in the opposition taking a knee inside the endzone (also resulting in an automatic start from the 20 yard line) - fewer 'live' kickoffs hopefully resulting in fewer injuries.</p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>So you might sometimes see a star player on punt return but not kickoff return due to injury risk. Not that it matters much at present in Hayne's case - as Hayne is not a star worth protecting at this point - however when Reggie Bush comes back he may take over punt returns (although not if Hayne keeps returning like vs Arizona).</p>

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                                    <p>Yeah that was apparently some run - the Yanks were blowing their load over it, and I understand its longer than the average return.</p>
                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p>What I saw was a bloke who was used to identifying space, making a quick decision, and putting in a good effort. That's bread and butter for someone like Hayne, with the added benefit of blockers. He must love that shit.</p>

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                                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="NTA" data-cid="521632" data-time="1443591239">
                                      <div>
                                      <p>Yeah that was apparently some run - the Yanks were blowing their load over it, and I understand its longer than the average return.</p>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p>What I saw was a bloke who was used to identifying space, making a quick decision, and putting in a good effort. That's bread and butter for someone like Hayne, with the added benefit of blockers. He must love that shit.</p>
                                      </div>
                                      </blockquote>
                                      <p> </p>
                                      <p>Mundine's better than Hayne... apparently</p>

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                                        <p>The 49ers Special Teams coach has made comment about Hayne as punt returner vs kick returner</p>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">
                                        <p>“Not to say Jarryd can’t do it, but that’s not his strong suit,” 49ers special teams co-ordinator Thomas McGaughey told reporters on Wednesday (US time). </p>
                                        <p>“His strong suit is punt return and that’s what we are going to continue to make him flourish in.”</p>
                                        <p>“If you look at the space in a punt return, it’s a lot more as opposed to the space in a kick-off return,” McGaughey said.</p>
                                        <p>“It can get real tight in a hurry in kick-off returns.</p>
                                        <p>“That’s still something he’s still trying to get a feel for. I think his strength is punt return and that’s what we are going to do.”</p>
                                        <p>“Jarryd is our best punt catcher,” McGaughey said.</p>
                                        <p>“He fields the ball naturally. I mean, you saw the one he caught over his shoulder in the pre-season game.</p>
                                        <p>“The first ball he put on the ground was the one he did in the game. Since he’s been here I hadn’t seen him drop one in practice.”</p>
                                        </blockquote>

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                                          <p>I reckon he could do both.  What is one of the primary tasks of a RL fullback?  Kick returns of all types against a rushing line of defence with no blockers.  Come on coach, put him in the game!!</p>

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