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  • sparkyS sparky

    What happened to Warren Whiteley?

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    @sparky

    Injured - couldn't make a comeback in time.
    Ditto for Dyantyi.

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      @sparky

      Injured - couldn't make a comeback in time.
      Ditto for Dyantyi.

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      @Billy-Webb said in Bok RWC Squad:

      @sparky

      Injured - couldn't make a comeback in time.
      Ditto for Dyantyi.

      I was really looking forward to seeing some more of Dyanti - unless he's a drug cheat, but that's not proven yet.

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        Is the slow moving dump truck Serfontein injured or have the Bok selectors seen the light?

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          Is the slow moving dump truck Serfontein injured or have the Bok selectors seen the light?

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          @Nepia said in Bok RWC Squad:

          Is the slow moving dump truck Serfontein injured or have the Bok selectors seen the light?

          Not sure Nepia.
          But he hasn't been in the mix at all this season.

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          • Billy WebbB Billy Webb

            Springboks' 31-man World Cup squad:

            Forwards (17)

            Schalk Brits (Bulls), Lood de Jager (Bulls), Pieter-Steph du Toit (Stormers), Eben Etzebeth (Stormers), Steven Kitshoff (Stormers), Vincent Koch (Saracens, England), Siya Kolisi (captain, Stormers), Francois Louw (Bath, England), Frans Malherbe (Stormers), Malcolm Marx (Lions), Bongi Mbonambi (Stormers), Tendai Mtawarira (Sharks), Franco Mostert (Gloucester, England), Trevor Nyakane (Bulls), Kwagga Smith (Lions), RG Snyman (Bulls), Duane Vermeulen (Bulls)

            Backs (14)

            Lukhanyo Am (Sharks), Damian de Allende (Stormers), Faf de Klerk (Sale Sharks, England), Warrick Gelant (Bulls), Elton Jantjies (Lions), Herschel Jantjies (Stormers), Cheslin Kolbe (Toulouse, France), Jesse Kriel (Bulls), Makazole Mapimpi (Sharks), S'bu Nkosi (Sharks), Willie le Roux (Toyota Verblitz, Japan), Handre Pollard (Bulls), Cobus Reinach (Northampton Saints, England), Frans Steyn (Montpellier, France)

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            @Billy-Webb said in Bok RWC Squad:

            Springboks' 31-man World Cup squad:

            Forwards (17)

            Schalk Brits (Bulls), Lood de Jager (Bulls), Pieter-Steph du Toit (Stormers), Eben Etzebeth (Stormers), Steven Kitshoff (Stormers), Vincent Koch (Saracens, England), Siya Kolisi (captain, Stormers), Francois Louw (Bath, England), Frans Malherbe (Stormers), Malcolm Marx (Lions), Bongi Mbonambi (Stormers), Tendai Mtawarira (Sharks), Franco Mostert (Gloucester, England), Trevor Nyakane (Bulls), Kwagga Smith (Lions), RG Snyman (Bulls), Duane Vermeulen (Bulls)

            Backs (14)

            Lukhanyo Am (Sharks), Damian de Allende (Stormers), Faf de Klerk (Sale Sharks, England), Warrick Gelant (Bulls), Elton Jantjies (Lions), Herschel Jantjies (Stormers), Cheslin Kolbe (Toulouse, France), Jesse Kriel (Bulls), Makazole Mapimpi (Sharks), S'bu Nkosi (Sharks), Willie le Roux (Toyota Verblitz, Japan), Handre Pollard (Bulls), Cobus Reinach (Northampton Saints, England), Frans Steyn (Montpellier, France)

            The best squad named. Favourites

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            • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

              @Billy-Webb said in Bok RWC Squad:

              Springboks' 31-man World Cup squad:

              Forwards (17)

              Schalk Brits (Bulls), Lood de Jager (Bulls), Pieter-Steph du Toit (Stormers), Eben Etzebeth (Stormers), Steven Kitshoff (Stormers), Vincent Koch (Saracens, England), Siya Kolisi (captain, Stormers), Francois Louw (Bath, England), Frans Malherbe (Stormers), Malcolm Marx (Lions), Bongi Mbonambi (Stormers), Tendai Mtawarira (Sharks), Franco Mostert (Gloucester, England), Trevor Nyakane (Bulls), Kwagga Smith (Lions), RG Snyman (Bulls), Duane Vermeulen (Bulls)

              Backs (14)

              Lukhanyo Am (Sharks), Damian de Allende (Stormers), Faf de Klerk (Sale Sharks, England), Warrick Gelant (Bulls), Elton Jantjies (Lions), Herschel Jantjies (Stormers), Cheslin Kolbe (Toulouse, France), Jesse Kriel (Bulls), Makazole Mapimpi (Sharks), S'bu Nkosi (Sharks), Willie le Roux (Toyota Verblitz, Japan), Handre Pollard (Bulls), Cobus Reinach (Northampton Saints, England), Frans Steyn (Montpellier, France)

              The best squad named. Favourites

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              @ACT-Crusader said in Bok RWC Squad:

              The best squad named. Favourites

              Oh no you dont!
              AB's must still be favourites.
              Ireland, England and Wales also ahead of the Boks.
              Aussie up there too.

              But yes, happy with that squad. Apart from Dyanti being missing through injury, those are the best guys we have so I can't complain about the squad selection.

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              • Billy WebbB Billy Webb

                @ACT-Crusader said in Bok RWC Squad:

                The best squad named. Favourites

                Oh no you dont!
                AB's must still be favourites.
                Ireland, England and Wales also ahead of the Boks.
                Aussie up there too.

                But yes, happy with that squad. Apart from Dyanti being missing through injury, those are the best guys we have so I can't complain about the squad selection.

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                @Billy-Webb said in Bok RWC Squad:

                @ACT-Crusader said in Bok RWC Squad:

                The best squad named. Favourites

                Oh no you dont!
                > AB's must still be favourites.
                Ireland, England and Wales also ahead of the Boks.
                Aussie up there too.

                But yes, happy with that squad. Apart from Dyanti being missing through injury, those are the best guys we have so I can't complain about the squad selection.

                ABs can't be favourites, we're not ranked number 1

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                  @ACT-Crusader said in Bok RWC Squad:

                  The best squad named. Favourites

                  Oh no you dont!
                  AB's must still be favourites.
                  Ireland, England and Wales also ahead of the Boks.
                  Aussie up there too.

                  But yes, happy with that squad. Apart from Dyanti being missing through injury, those are the best guys we have so I can't complain about the squad selection.

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                  @Billy-Webb said in Bok RWC Squad:

                  @ACT-Crusader said in Bok RWC Squad:

                  The best squad named. Favourites

                  Oh no you dont!
                  AB's must still be favourites.
                  Ireland, England and Wales also ahead of the Boks.
                  Aussie up there too.

                  But yes, happy with that squad. Apart from Dyanti being missing through injury, those are the best guys we have so I can't complain about the squad selection.

                  You’ve named your squad and a strong one at that. We are still sitting on our hands trying to figure out who our starting 6, props and wingers are....

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                  • Billy WebbB Billy Webb

                    @ACT-Crusader said in Bok RWC Squad:

                    The best squad named. Favourites

                    Oh no you dont!
                    AB's must still be favourites.
                    Ireland, England and Wales also ahead of the Boks.
                    Aussie up there too.

                    But yes, happy with that squad. Apart from Dyanti being missing through injury, those are the best guys we have so I can't complain about the squad selection.

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                    @Billy-Webb said in Bok RWC Squad:

                    @ACT-Crusader said in Bok RWC Squad:

                    The best squad named. Favourites

                    Oh no you dont!
                    AB's must still be favourites.
                    Ireland, England and Wales also ahead of the Boks.
                    Aussie up there too.

                    But yes, happy with that squad. Apart from Dyanti being missing through injury, those are the best guys we have so I can't complain about the squad selection.

                    Is that what you call it in South Africa?

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                      @Billy-Webb see even a Welshman has you as favourites

                      https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/2886/2019-rugby-world-cup/251

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                        @Billy-Webb see even a Welshman has you as favourites

                        https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/2886/2019-rugby-world-cup/251

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                        @ACT-Crusader

                        Bless him. But it is @MiketheSnow ....
                        Great Ferner that he is, he doesn't stand out as the best oracle we have on here.
                        Plus - he's just downplaying Wales chances šŸ˜‰

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                          @ACT-Crusader

                          Bless him. But it is @MiketheSnow ....
                          Great Ferner that he is, he doesn't stand out as the best oracle we have on here.
                          Plus - he's just downplaying Wales chances šŸ˜‰

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                          @Billy-Webb said in Bok RWC Squad:

                          @ACT-Crusader

                          Bless him. But it is @MiketheSnow ....
                          Great Ferner that he is, he doesn't stand out as the best oracle we have on here.
                          Plus - he's just downplaying Wales chances šŸ˜‰

                          Ouch

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                            It's a good thing that Dyantyi didn't make the RWC squad.

                            Dyantyi returned a positive finding for a then undisclosed prohibited substance after being tested on 2 July following a Springbok training camp. In a statement released last Saturday, Dyantyi denied taking any banned substances and requested that his B sample be tested.
                            
                            Saids confirmed on Friday that Dyantyi’s B-sample was tested at the World Anti-Doping Agency (Wada) accredited laboratory at the University of the Free State. The test confirmed the results of the A-sample of the presence of the banned substances: metandienone, methyltestosterone and LGD-4033.
                            
                            Dyantyi has been formally charged with a doping offence for multiple anabolic steroids and metabolites. He has the decision of either accepting the charge and sumbitting a plea for a reduced sanction or contesting the charge before an independent tribunal panel.
                            
                            Should Dyantyi contest that charge and plead not guilty a hearing will be set down within the next four weeks, and he will be required to provide evidence that can prove his innocence.
                            
                            Dyantyi was left out of the Springboks’ 31-man squad for the World Cup after an injury-hit Super Rugby season. Bok coach Rassie Erasmus said the decision to omit Dyantyi was made before the results of his A-sample came to light.
                            

                            https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/dyantyi-b-sample-comes-back-positive/

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                              It's a good thing that Dyantyi didn't make the RWC squad.

                              Dyantyi returned a positive finding for a then undisclosed prohibited substance after being tested on 2 July following a Springbok training camp. In a statement released last Saturday, Dyantyi denied taking any banned substances and requested that his B sample be tested.
                              
                              Saids confirmed on Friday that Dyantyi’s B-sample was tested at the World Anti-Doping Agency (Wada) accredited laboratory at the University of the Free State. The test confirmed the results of the A-sample of the presence of the banned substances: metandienone, methyltestosterone and LGD-4033.
                              
                              Dyantyi has been formally charged with a doping offence for multiple anabolic steroids and metabolites. He has the decision of either accepting the charge and sumbitting a plea for a reduced sanction or contesting the charge before an independent tribunal panel.
                              
                              Should Dyantyi contest that charge and plead not guilty a hearing will be set down within the next four weeks, and he will be required to provide evidence that can prove his innocence.
                              
                              Dyantyi was left out of the Springboks’ 31-man squad for the World Cup after an injury-hit Super Rugby season. Bok coach Rassie Erasmus said the decision to omit Dyantyi was made before the results of his A-sample came to light.
                              

                              https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/dyantyi-b-sample-comes-back-positive/

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                              @Stargazer multiple types, ouch

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                                Pity. He had super promise and could have been a role model.

                                Sometimes there are asthma medications etc that are banned but could have been accidentally used.

                                There are no real medical uses for anabolic steroids on the other hand.

                                Cheating is cheating.

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                                  Interesting article:

                                  DYANTYI’S DOPING CHARGE: THE LEGAL POSITION

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                                    Interesting article:

                                    DYANTYI’S DOPING CHARGE: THE LEGAL POSITION

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                                    @Stargazer said in Bok RWC Squad:

                                    Interesting article:

                                    DYANTYI’S DOPING CHARGE: THE LEGAL POSITION

                                    Interestingly there has been little coverage of this in SA papers. I asked why and a SA mate said because he is yet to be proven guilty and so it will be seemed racist if they publish his preliminary positive result!

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                                      Interesting article:

                                      DYANTYI’S DOPING CHARGE: THE LEGAL POSITION

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                                      @Stargazer great blog, will check it out more in future, thanks

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                                        @Stargazer said in Bok RWC Squad:

                                        Interesting article:

                                        DYANTYI’S DOPING CHARGE: THE LEGAL POSITION

                                        Interestingly there has been little coverage of this in SA papers. I asked why and a SA mate said because he is yet to be proven guilty and so it will be seemed racist if they publish his preliminary positive result!

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                                        @Hooroo said in Bok RWC Squad:

                                        @Stargazer said in Bok RWC Squad:

                                        Interesting article:

                                        DYANTYI’S DOPING CHARGE: THE LEGAL POSITION

                                        Interestingly there has been little coverage of this in SA papers. I asked why and a SA mate said because he is yet to be proven guilty and so it will be seemed racist if they publish his preliminary positive result!

                                        Really? It was/is a pretty big story, but as far as I can see not really much to report.

                                        Dyanti tested positive during an out of season test, he brought out a statement admitting the failed test and denying the allegations. His B sample came out positive and the substances were made public. It appears a hearing will be held, but it's not yet clear what the case will look like.

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                                          Pity. He had super promise and could have been a role model.

                                          Sometimes there are asthma medications etc that are banned but could have been accidentally used.

                                          There are no real medical uses for anabolic steroids on the other hand.

                                          Cheating is cheating.

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                                          @Billy-Tell said in Bok RWC Squad:

                                          Pity. He had super promise and could have been a role model.

                                          Sometimes there are asthma medications etc that are banned but could have been accidentally used.

                                          There are no real medical uses for anabolic steroids on the other hand.

                                          Cheating is cheating.

                                          I am hoping that he gets cleared of all of this.
                                          Not quite sure how though. A & B samples tested positive...

                                          Having said the above, there are as yet unsubstantiated rumours doing the rounds about that testing facility - and they're not positive (if you'll pardon the unintended pun).

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