RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B)
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@Bovidae said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
Ah, it's Thursday!
2:30 pm NZT for the team announcement.
Have been thinking about this. I think they will go with almost all players who played against Tonga, with a couple of others they can slide in. Otherwise people are coming in wihtout a match for a month, which is damn tough, particularly in the forwards.
Still gutted we lost Luke Jacobson. That kid's got a massive future
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All the scenarios say that Reiko is toast for this game? I find that a little hard to believe. In saying that, I really want Bridge to start
@Hooroo said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
All the scenarios say that Reiko is toast for this game? I find that a little hard to believe. In saying that, I really want Bridge to start
I think they'll pick him. Wingers can come up to speed more easily in training I reckon - it's not so physical out there.
He's still favourite to be top try scorer (just in front of Sevu Reece) ...
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@Hooroo said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
All the scenarios say that Reiko is toast for this game? I find that a little hard to believe. In saying that, I really want Bridge to start
I think they'll pick him. Wingers can come up to speed more easily in training I reckon - it's not so physical out there.
He's still favourite to be top try scorer (just in front of Sevu Reece) ...
@nzzp said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Hooroo said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
All the scenarios say that Reiko is toast for this game? I find that a little hard to believe. In saying that, I really want Bridge to start
I think they'll pick him. Wingers can come up to speed more easily in training I reckon - it's not so physical out there.
He's still favourite to be top try scorer (just in front of Sevu Reece) ...
His powder is the driest, so I guess it's time to let him loose!!!
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@nzzp said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Hooroo said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
All the scenarios say that Reiko is toast for this game? I find that a little hard to believe. In saying that, I really want Bridge to start
I think they'll pick him. Wingers can come up to speed more easily in training I reckon - it's not so physical out there.
He's still favourite to be top try scorer (just in front of Sevu Reece) ...
His powder is the driest, so I guess it's time to let him loose!!!
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@canefan ya got that right. 5 year contract, with big money for a winger - they obviously see him as something special
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All the scenarios say that Reiko is toast for this game? I find that a little hard to believe. In saying that, I really want Bridge to start
@Hooroo said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
All the scenarios say that Reiko is toast for this game? I find that a little hard to believe. In saying that, I really want Bridge to start
I'd pick Rieko on the bench for this one. I'd have Bridge and Ben Smith as my starting wings - and to be honest, despite the X-factor Reece can bring, I think he brings a lot less security and more defensive risk - he'd be comfortably my fourth choice wing. Though I won't be overly surprised to see Hansen pick him to start.
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@canefan ya got that right. 5 year contract, with big money for a winger - they obviously see him as something special
@nzzp said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@canefan ya got that right. 5 year contract, with big money for a winger - they obviously see him as something special
He's only 22. AB wingers don't usually fall off the cliff until 27. Perhaps he needs a change of scenery. Send both the brothers to the Canes, Plumtree with complete their training
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@canefan ya got that right. 5 year contract, with big money for a winger - they obviously see him as something special
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@Hooroo said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
All the scenarios say that Reiko is toast for this game? I find that a little hard to believe. In saying that, I really want Bridge to start
I'd pick Rieko on the bench for this one. I'd have Bridge and Ben Smith as my starting wings - and to be honest, despite the X-factor Reece can bring, I think he brings a lot less security and more defensive risk - he'd be comfortably my fourth choice wing. Though I won't be overly surprised to see Hansen pick him to start.
@Chris-B said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Hooroo said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
All the scenarios say that Reiko is toast for this game? I find that a little hard to believe. In saying that, I really want Bridge to start
I'd pick Rieko on the bench for this one. I'd have Bridge and Ben Smith as my starting wings - and to be honest, despite the X-factor Reece can bring, I think he brings a lot less security and more defensive risk - he'd be comfortably my fourth choice wing. Though I won't be overly surprised to see Hansen pick him to start.
Reece's defence has picked up since making the All Blacks. I think either Reiko/Reece on one side and Bridge on the other.
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@Chris-B said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Hooroo said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
All the scenarios say that Reiko is toast for this game? I find that a little hard to believe. In saying that, I really want Bridge to start
I'd pick Rieko on the bench for this one. I'd have Bridge and Ben Smith as my starting wings - and to be honest, despite the X-factor Reece can bring, I think he brings a lot less security and more defensive risk - he'd be comfortably my fourth choice wing. Though I won't be overly surprised to see Hansen pick him to start.
Reece's defence has picked up since making the All Blacks. I think either Reiko/Reece on one side and Bridge on the other.
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@Hooroo It was Sevu who charged out of the line to open the hole for Tonga when they scored.
@Chris-B said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Hooroo It was Sevu who charged out of the line to open the hole for Tonga when they scored.
You're probably right.
I was being a bit simplistic in my thought process around defence in that he didn't miss any tackles he attempted.
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@Chris-B said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Hooroo It was Sevu who charged out of the line to open the hole for Tonga when they scored.
You're probably right.
I was being a bit simplistic in my thought process around defence in that he didn't miss any tackles he attempted.
@Hooroo I dropped Sevu then and there - but, that certainly doesn't mean Hansen will.
Not sure what their thinking is on playing one of Rieko or Bridge on the right wing.
I kind of think they'll want lots of experience on the park and that points to Ben Smith. But, you can pretty much rationalize picking anyone.
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@Hooroo I dropped Sevu then and there - but, that certainly doesn't mean Hansen will.
Not sure what their thinking is on playing one of Rieko or Bridge on the right wing.
I kind of think they'll want lots of experience on the park and that points to Ben Smith. But, you can pretty much rationalize picking anyone.
@Chris-B said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Hooroo I dropped Sevu then and there - but, that certainly doesn't mean Hansen will.
Not sure what their thinking is on playing one of Rieko or Bridge on the right wing.
I kind of think they'll want lots of experience on the park and that points to Ben Smith. But, you can pretty much rationalize picking anyone.
I think you're right and it will come as no surprise if it is Reiko, BB and Smith.
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@Chris-B said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Hooroo It was Sevu who charged out of the line to open the hole for Tonga when they scored.
You're probably right.
I was being a bit simplistic in my thought process around defence in that he didn't miss any tackles he attempted.
@Hooroo said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
I was being a bit simplistic in my thought process
nooooo! really? pffft....
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@nzzp said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@canefan ya got that right. 5 year contract, with big money for a winger - they obviously see him as something special
Like The Bus.....
@Machpants said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@nzzp said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@canefan ya got that right. 5 year contract, with big money for a winger - they obviously see him as something special
Like The Bus.....
yep, like @canefan said, only 22. Our wingers don't usually go past 26/27 before being usurped - one of the reasons we have so many people on the top tryscorers list, but not usually at the top of the tries list, but dominate the tries/test list.
Dougy has less than half the blokes above him and below him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_leading_rugby_union_test_try_scorers
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@Hooroo It was Sevu who charged out of the line to open the hole for Tonga when they scored.
@Chris-B said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Hooroo It was Sevu who charged out of the line to open the hole for Tonga when they scored.
And did the same in BA and stopped a try - risk and reward. Tonga would have scored anyway against one less back.
That said, I'd play BFA on the right wing to combat the expected aerial bombardment from the Boks.
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@Chris-B said in RWC All Blacks v South Africa:
@Hooroo It was Sevu who charged out of the line to open the hole for Tonga when they scored.
And did the same in BA and stopped a try - risk and reward. Tonga would have scored anyway against one less back.
That said, I'd play BFA on the right wing to combat the expected aerial bombardment from the Boks.
@Bovidae I don't think the try was a foregone conclusion - if Sevu takes the receiver, Bridge (?) has the next man and Jordie is tracking across to get the guy coming from deep. They have to execute well to score. (4.24 in the video). Whereas the only thing Sevu gets very close to is a yellow card, so it's not a play I want him making.
https://www.planetrugby.com/video-new-zealand-v-tonga-highlights/
Agree about Ben Smith and the aerial bombardment.
