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RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B)

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    So who, exactly, are the players writing these messages on their wrist tape for? Not for themselves, unless they read their watches upside down
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    In fact, what does wrist tape even do?

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      Ugh.
      Well played All Blacks. Better than us on the day.
      Good luck for the rest of the RWC - hope to see you for the 100th match up later in the final!

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      • gt12G gt12

        Finally had a chance to watch most of the game again.

        I'm impressed with Bridge and Reece on attack, but still not convinced about their effectiveness under the high ball. If they are going to be out first choice wingers, we should expect high kicks all day - they put a few down and it looks an easier route to exploit us that going through us. I note lots of people saying Faf played poorly, but I think that was only execution on some kicks. Watching at the ground they would kick when they ran out of ideas - our defence is very good at maintaining composure, so after 5-6 phases, they'd go high- often getting another chance. It's a big work-on for us, as we'll now likely see plenty. In the mid second half, Reece was out of position quite a few times, and we dropped a couple more, and I was screaming for them to bring on Bender, just to slow down the main danger, because apart from gaining ground and opportunities through kicks, we did very well stopping them

        On the other hand, our box kicks and bombs weren't really that good - we only got a payoff when we avoided Kolbe - who was excellent. I could have murdered A Smith for his shitty kick to Kolbe in the second half that led to his break. I was right behind and was flabbergasted he kicked that - we were well set right and finally had a bit of territory. It wasn't the execution, but the rationale, and when he dealt with it well, again, he broke out and we ended up conceding a soft try- at the ground I thought that PSDT was offside coming back, but too bad.

        The scrum got a good workout, Nepo looked good except for one scrum and Moody had some trouble - later our bench props performed about as well as can be expected. Locks were good, loosies good, Hlafback kicking needs some work, midfield good (especially ALB) although they barely used SBW - why bring him on and then never put the ball in his hands?

        Wings need to improve high ball bomb disposal. Personally, I think that Ioane is still one of our two best wings, but on attack, it's hard to go past the current two, and if Rieko hasn't been putting in the work or is carrying a slight injury, then too bad. Having said that, if I was an opposition coach, I'd be trying the target Cory Jane bomb trick on our current two as neither are half as reliable.

        I can't see us making too many changes to that team, Scott Barrett will go to the bench if we get BBBR back, which probably allows Todd to go to the bench.

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        @gt12 said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):

        midfield good (especially ALB) although they barely used SBW - why bring him on and then never put the ball in his hands?

        Because he doesn't have to carry to create space?

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          If you are an AB you have to expect (sad) people to go crawling through footage to find things and then try to make them go viral. Just means you've got to be super clean.

          I have to admit, that after reading so much of it after the years, I have occasionally started to wonder if we do get some treatment as being the world number 1( and by some distance for a lot of it) over the last few years will mean some ref's will have pre-conceived notions.

          However, after the Lions debacle, where there were full page spreads about the red card (first in history, more or less) and then zero about Garces flipping about playing the rules properly (both in favour of lions, both in last minutes, both deciding the results of the tests), I've decided that knockers are just knockers. Sad people who struggled to achieve nothing themselves. Sitting in Mummy's basement behind their thousands of screens desperate to find a morsel of AB "favouritisim" to try and make go viral. Forget Garces lack of PT/YC, forget the player being 10m offside before the Bok try, forget the penalty to Boks for brining down their own player - none is as relevant as Coles in from the side in a non-desciript ruck, or Read's clumsy grab at PTSD. None of it.

          Boks were heavily tipped to win the thing by most fo the media up here (one well known pod cast had 6/6 predicting the Boks), and we've just (potentially) made them look stupid. If things go to form, I highly doubt they will get past the QF.

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          • MajorPomM MajorPom

            If you are an AB you have to expect (sad) people to go crawling through footage to find things and then try to make them go viral. Just means you've got to be super clean.

            I have to admit, that after reading so much of it after the years, I have occasionally started to wonder if we do get some treatment as being the world number 1( and by some distance for a lot of it) over the last few years will mean some ref's will have pre-conceived notions.

            However, after the Lions debacle, where there were full page spreads about the red card (first in history, more or less) and then zero about Garces flipping about playing the rules properly (both in favour of lions, both in last minutes, both deciding the results of the tests), I've decided that knockers are just knockers. Sad people who struggled to achieve nothing themselves. Sitting in Mummy's basement behind their thousands of screens desperate to find a morsel of AB "favouritisim" to try and make go viral. Forget Garces lack of PT/YC, forget the player being 10m offside before the Bok try, forget the penalty to Boks for brining down their own player - none is as relevant as Coles in from the side in a non-desciript ruck, or Read's clumsy grab at PTSD. None of it.

            Boks were heavily tipped to win the thing by most fo the media up here (one well known pod cast had 6/6 predicting the Boks), and we've just (potentially) made them look stupid. If things go to form, I highly doubt they will get past the QF.

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            @MajorRage said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):

            If you are an AB you have to expect (sad) people to go crawling through footage to find things and then try to make them go viral. Just means you've got to be super clean.

            I have to admit, that after reading so much of it after the years, I have occasionally started to wonder if we do get some treatment as being the world number 1( and by some distance for a lot of it) over the last few years will mean some ref's will have pre-conceived notions.

            However, after the Lions debacle, where there were full page spreads about the red card (first in history, more or less) and then zero about Garces flipping about playing the rules properly (both in favour of lions, both in last minutes, both deciding the results of the tests), I've decided that knockers are just knockers. Sad people who struggled to achieve nothing themselves. Sitting in Mummy's basement behind their thousands of screens desperate to find a morsel of AB "favouritisim" to try and make go viral. Forget Garces lack of PT/YC, forget the player being 10m offside before the Bok try, forget the penalty to Boks for brining down their own player - none is as relevant as Coles in from the side in a non-desciript ruck, or Read's clumsy grab at PTSD. None of it.

            Boks were heavily tipped to win the thing by most fo the media up here (one well known pod cast had 6/6 predicting the Boks), and we've just (potentially) made them look stupid. If things go to form, I highly doubt they will get past the QF.

            A- fucken- men brother

            It's just pure jealousy

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            • MajorPomM MajorPom

              If you are an AB you have to expect (sad) people to go crawling through footage to find things and then try to make them go viral. Just means you've got to be super clean.

              I have to admit, that after reading so much of it after the years, I have occasionally started to wonder if we do get some treatment as being the world number 1( and by some distance for a lot of it) over the last few years will mean some ref's will have pre-conceived notions.

              However, after the Lions debacle, where there were full page spreads about the red card (first in history, more or less) and then zero about Garces flipping about playing the rules properly (both in favour of lions, both in last minutes, both deciding the results of the tests), I've decided that knockers are just knockers. Sad people who struggled to achieve nothing themselves. Sitting in Mummy's basement behind their thousands of screens desperate to find a morsel of AB "favouritisim" to try and make go viral. Forget Garces lack of PT/YC, forget the player being 10m offside before the Bok try, forget the penalty to Boks for brining down their own player - none is as relevant as Coles in from the side in a non-desciript ruck, or Read's clumsy grab at PTSD. None of it.

              Boks were heavily tipped to win the thing by most fo the media up here (one well known pod cast had 6/6 predicting the Boks), and we've just (potentially) made them look stupid. If things go to form, I highly doubt they will get past the QF.

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              @MajorRage Which podcast?

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                @MajorRage Which podcast?

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                @akan004 said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):

                @MajorRage Which podcast?

                The ruck. It's usually very England rugby slanted, but over the internationals it's worth listening to. The Walrus is on it, but like most journalists, when they start talking and have their ideas challenged, he's half decent.

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                  Noticeably the bokke players and coaches have made no complaints. Just like we don't complain about shit happening

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                  • MajorPomM MajorPom

                    @akan004 said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):

                    @MajorRage Which podcast?

                    The ruck. It's usually very England rugby slanted, but over the internationals it's worth listening to. The Walrus is on it, but like most journalists, when they start talking and have their ideas challenged, he's half decent.

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                    @MajorRage Thanks. Will go and have a listen.

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                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                      Extended highlights clip with different camera angles:

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                      @Stargazer said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):

                      Extended highlights clip with different camera angles:

                      Good thing they posted extended highlights as the initial highlights were a joke.

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                      • M Machpants

                        So who, exactly, are the players writing these messages on their wrist tape for? Not for themselves, unless they read their watches upside down
                        099fd00e-900b-4cc9-b6d5-03b6d00f61af-image.jpeg https://resources.stuff.co.nz/content/dam/images/1/x/2/f/g/0/image.related.StuffLandscapeSixteenByNine.710x400.1x2e9h.png/1569201729724.jpg
                        In fact, what does wrist tape even do?

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                        @Machpants they arent actually tape, they are a super hightech flexible alloy made to look like tape, and has attractants to the cord in rugby shorts, to force the hands tackles down and encourage use of arms...cheats schmeats, innovative leaders

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                          #1061


                          .

                          About these 3D replays:

                          https://www.tvbeurope.com/production-post/canon-to-bring-3d-replays-to-rugby-world-cup

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                            I was watching a replay.
                            And took some stills of the PSTD intercept to judge whether he was on side or offside.

                            Techincially; he was onside by the time he made contact with the ball.
                            But he was offside (retiring) and interfering with the NZ backline, so could have gone either way. Usually brave or dumb to get involved when that 'exposed'.

                            But if you look at my last picture, you will see it wasn't dumb. Was a 14 point intercept .....

                            Here is the sequence. Clockwise from top left:
                            Can see the ruck from ALB tackle in first still.
                            PSDT1.PNG

                            Look at the space. a 5 on 0 if you ignore the offside player.
                            Such a messy period of play, something didn't seem right, but hard to tell, and even with this amazing effort by myself ... it still would come down to interpretation anyway .....
                            PSDT2.PNG

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                            • MajorPomM MajorPom

                              If you are an AB you have to expect (sad) people to go crawling through footage to find things and then try to make them go viral. Just means you've got to be super clean.

                              I have to admit, that after reading so much of it after the years, I have occasionally started to wonder if we do get some treatment as being the world number 1( and by some distance for a lot of it) over the last few years will mean some ref's will have pre-conceived notions.

                              However, after the Lions debacle, where there were full page spreads about the red card (first in history, more or less) and then zero about Garces flipping about playing the rules properly (both in favour of lions, both in last minutes, both deciding the results of the tests), I've decided that knockers are just knockers. Sad people who struggled to achieve nothing themselves. Sitting in Mummy's basement behind their thousands of screens desperate to find a morsel of AB "favouritisim" to try and make go viral. Forget Garces lack of PT/YC, forget the player being 10m offside before the Bok try, forget the penalty to Boks for brining down their own player - none is as relevant as Coles in from the side in a non-desciript ruck, or Read's clumsy grab at PTSD. None of it.

                              Boks were heavily tipped to win the thing by most fo the media up here (one well known pod cast had 6/6 predicting the Boks), and we've just (potentially) made them look stupid. If things go to form, I highly doubt they will get past the QF.

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                              @MajorRage said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):

                              If you are an AB you have to expect (sad) people to go crawling through footage to find things and then try to make them go viral. Just means you've got to be super clean.

                              I have to admit, that after reading so much of it after the years, I have occasionally started to wonder if we do get some treatment as being the world number 1( and by some distance for a lot of it) over the last few years will mean some ref's will have pre-conceived notions.

                              However, after the Lions debacle, where there were full page spreads about the red card (first in history, more or less) and then zero about Garces flipping about playing the rules properly (both in favour of lions, both in last minutes, both deciding the results of the tests), I've decided that knockers are just knockers. Sad people who struggled to achieve nothing themselves. Sitting in Mummy's basement behind their thousands of screens desperate to find a morsel of AB "favouritisim" to try and make go viral. Forget Garces lack of PT/YC, forget the player being 10m offside before the Bok try, forget the penalty to Boks for brining down their own player - none is as relevant as Coles in from the side in a non-desciript ruck, or Read's clumsy grab at PTSD. None of it.

                              Boks were heavily tipped to win the thing by most fo the media up here (one well known pod cast had 6/6 predicting the Boks), and we've just (potentially) made them look stupid. If things go to form, I highly doubt they will get past the QF.

                              Forget this stuff as well, I don't have a twitter account so it didn't happen:
                              Ardie loses his headbackwards

                              Ardie has his head twisted off ....

                              not sure how to even describe this one .....

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                              • M Machpants

                                So who, exactly, are the players writing these messages on their wrist tape for? Not for themselves, unless they read their watches upside down
                                099fd00e-900b-4cc9-b6d5-03b6d00f61af-image.jpeg https://resources.stuff.co.nz/content/dam/images/1/x/2/f/g/0/image.related.StuffLandscapeSixteenByNine.710x400.1x2e9h.png/1569201729724.jpg
                                In fact, what does wrist tape even do?

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                                @Machpants said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):

                                So who, exactly, are the players writing these messages on their wrist tape for? Not for themselves, unless they read their watches upside down
                                099fd00e-900b-4cc9-b6d5-03b6d00f61af-image.jpeg https://resources.stuff.co.nz/content/dam/images/1/x/2/f/g/0/image.related.StuffLandscapeSixteenByNine.710x400.1x2e9h.png/1569201729724.jpg
                                In fact, what does wrist tape even do?

                                It’s only a guess, but I reckon Sevu Reece wrote it for mum and dad.

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                                • mofitzy_M mofitzy_

                                  @Stargazer said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):

                                  Extended highlights clip with different camera angles:

                                  Good thing they posted extended highlights as the initial highlights were a joke.

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                                  @mofitzy_ said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):

                                  @Stargazer said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):

                                  Extended highlights clip with different camera angles:

                                  Good thing they posted extended highlights as the initial highlights were a joke.

                                  One for @NTA : when LH at 45 degrees (Ofa in H2 penalty win) how does LH lock get any shove on behind him? Noticed when Marler used to do this Chris Robshaw (big unit) was usually in full contact behind him?

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                                  • SammyCS SammyC

                                    @Machpants said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):

                                    So who, exactly, are the players writing these messages on their wrist tape for? Not for themselves, unless they read their watches upside down
                                    099fd00e-900b-4cc9-b6d5-03b6d00f61af-image.jpeg https://resources.stuff.co.nz/content/dam/images/1/x/2/f/g/0/image.related.StuffLandscapeSixteenByNine.710x400.1x2e9h.png/1569201729724.jpg
                                    In fact, what does wrist tape even do?

                                    It’s only a guess, but I reckon Sevu Reece wrote it for mum and dad.

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                                    @SammyC said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):

                                    @Machpants said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):

                                    So who, exactly, are the players writing these messages on their wrist tape for? Not for themselves, unless they read their watches upside down
                                    099fd00e-900b-4cc9-b6d5-03b6d00f61af-image.jpeg https://resources.stuff.co.nz/content/dam/images/1/x/2/f/g/0/image.related.StuffLandscapeSixteenByNine.710x400.1x2e9h.png/1569201729724.jpg
                                    In fact, what does wrist tape even do?

                                    It’s only a guess, but I reckon Sevu Reece wrote it for mum and dad.

                                    Nope. That's a message for Garces, code for 'do we have a deal?'

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                                    • M Machpants

                                      So who, exactly, are the players writing these messages on their wrist tape for? Not for themselves, unless they read their watches upside down
                                      099fd00e-900b-4cc9-b6d5-03b6d00f61af-image.jpeg https://resources.stuff.co.nz/content/dam/images/1/x/2/f/g/0/image.related.StuffLandscapeSixteenByNine.710x400.1x2e9h.png/1569201729724.jpg
                                      In fact, what does wrist tape even do?

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                                      @Machpants said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):

                                      So who, exactly, are the players writing these messages on their wrist tape for? Not for themselves, unless they read their watches upside down
                                      099fd00e-900b-4cc9-b6d5-03b6d00f61af-image.jpeg https://resources.stuff.co.nz/content/dam/images/1/x/2/f/g/0/image.related.StuffLandscapeSixteenByNine.710x400.1x2e9h.png/1569201729724.jpg
                                      In fact, what does wrist tape even do?

                                      Wrist tape is used to cover up a player’s “Matfield bar” tackling aid.

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                                      • StargazerS Stargazer


                                        .

                                        About these 3D replays:

                                        https://www.tvbeurope.com/production-post/canon-to-bring-3d-replays-to-rugby-world-cup

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                                        @Stargazer said in RWC: All Blacks v South Africa (Pool B):

                                        About these 3D replays:

                                        Not 3D but I recorded and watched the spidercam coverage of the Bledisloe Cup II test. It was very interesting to watch an aerial view of the game and a completely different camera angle. The haka looked great from above too.

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                                          A decent section of the SA media and fanbase really have become whingers over the past decade starting around the PdV and 2009 Lions tour. Everything is a conspiracy, every loss was the referee.

                                          This isn't all, or even most, but it just seems like a lot. Even Erasmus' comments after the game came across as pretty cynical.

                                          Imagine if it were Vermeulen dudded by the HIA process?

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