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RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A)

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  • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

    @Number-10 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

    When Japan beat South Africa in 2015, Japan was 13th ranked and South Africa 3rd.

    Today, Japan was 10th ranked and Ireland 2nd.

    This was more emphatic IMHO

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    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

    @Number-10 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

    When Japan beat South Africa in 2015, Japan was 13th ranked and South Africa 3rd.

    Today, Japan was 10th ranked and Ireland 2nd.

    This was more emphatic IMHO

    Yup they absolutely slapped them. A couple more bounces go their way and it’s a 20 point victory. What a performance.

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      @taniwharugby said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

      we have to win all our games once we get out of pool play, be it Ireland, Scotland, Samoa or Japan, it makes zero difference who it is.

      Having an easy quarter final makes a big difference.

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      @akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

      @taniwharugby said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

      we have to win all our games once we get out of pool play, be it Ireland, Scotland, Samoa or Japan, it makes zero difference who it is.

      Having an easy quarter final makes a big difference.

      The question is which is the easy quarter finals?

      Japan at home with some belief looks the hardest or an Ireland that may not show up and are struggling with injuries? Samoa look a little reckless to seriously challenge Ireland and Scotland might scrape a win against Russia. I'd like Scotland in the quarters, but I think they will be on their way home.

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        Can we get @mn5 back to see his reaction when Japan beat the Scots?

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        • A akan004

          @taniwharugby said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

          we have to win all our games once we get out of pool play, be it Ireland, Scotland, Samoa or Japan, it makes zero difference who it is.

          Having an easy quarter final makes a big difference.

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          @akan004 although there is an argument that if Ireland do end up 2nd in thier pool, it is an 'easy' quarter because they have finished behind either Japan, Samoa or Scotland...or maybe they wont even get out of thier pool...

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          • Billy TellB Billy Tell

            @Frank said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

            Isn't this result kind of bad for us and potentially good for the Boks?

            Potentially yes. But I think Ireland’s gameplan has been found out. They also rely on sexton who has been under an injury cloud. They also can’t take the Samoa game for granted so only Russia can get the B team. If they play like today though, NZ wouldn’t be losing.

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            @Billy-Tell said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

            @Frank said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

            Isn't this result kind of bad for us and potentially good for the Boks?

            Potentially yes. But I think Ireland’s gameplan has been found out. They also rely on sexton who has been under an injury cloud. They also can’t take the Samoa game for granted so only Russia can get the B team. If they play like today though, NZ wouldn’t be losing.

            How many of the team that just lost to Japan were their best team or was it all second stringers? Just wondering if total lack of depth partially explains the loss.

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            • KirwanK Kirwan

              @antipodean said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

              @akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

              @Frank said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

              Isn't this result kind of bad for us and potentially good for the Boks?

              Absolutely. Not sure why some are so happy with this result.

              Are you really concerned after seeing that?

              How can the Irish believe they can beat the All Blacks or the Boks when they can’t beat Japan? They aren’t French, who can shake a result off like that, their team is mentally farked now.

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              @Kirwan said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

              @antipodean said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

              @akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

              @Frank said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

              Isn't this result kind of bad for us and potentially good for the Boks?

              Absolutely. Not sure why some are so happy with this result.

              Are you really concerned after seeing that?

              How can the Irish believe they can beat the All Blacks or the Boks when they can’t beat Japan? They aren’t French, who can shake a result off like that, their team is mentally farked now.

              The Boks lost to Japan and then almost beat us in the semi.

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              • P PecoTrain

                @akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                @taniwharugby said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                we have to win all our games once we get out of pool play, be it Ireland, Scotland, Samoa or Japan, it makes zero difference who it is.

                Having an easy quarter final makes a big difference.

                The question is which is the easy quarter finals?

                Japan at home with some belief looks the hardest or an Ireland that may not show up and are struggling with injuries? Samoa look a little reckless to seriously challenge Ireland and Scotland might scrape a win against Russia. I'd like Scotland in the quarters, but I think they will be on their way home.

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                @PecoTrain I doubt Japan and Scotland believe they can beat us. Ireland definitely do. People writing off Ireland have obviously forgotten what happened in Dublin last year.

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                  Nothing Samoa showed against Russia leads me to believe they are in the mix.

                  This is a 3-horse race IMHO.

                  If Japan play fast and loose against Scotland they could well lose. England almost did in the 6N.

                  Japan play this way against Scotland and Samoa and they'll top the group.

                  Regardless of what Ireland do.

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                  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                    @jegga said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                    now would be a good time to visit planet rubgy, the swarm as they call Irish fans are deeply and understandably unpopular

                    Normally avoid PR like the plague, but this post was bloody priceless:

                    "One of the most one sided ref performances I’ve ever seen. That said, Japan played us off the pitch and fully deserved their win, well done."

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                    @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                    @jegga said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                    now would be a good time to visit planet rubgy, the swarm as they call Irish fans are deeply and understandably unpopular

                    Normally avoid PR like the plague, but this post was bloody priceless:

                    "One of the most one sided ref performances I’ve ever seen. That said, Japan played us off the pitch and fully deserved their win, well done."

                    This was my favourite from the swarm on pr

                    Well done to Joe for staying so calm knowing that somebody in that stadium is now going around with a suitcase full of yen

                    Irish fans gunna irish fan

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                    • FrankF Frank

                      @Billy-Tell said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                      @Frank said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                      Isn't this result kind of bad for us and potentially good for the Boks?

                      Potentially yes. But I think Ireland’s gameplan has been found out. They also rely on sexton who has been under an injury cloud. They also can’t take the Samoa game for granted so only Russia can get the B team. If they play like today though, NZ wouldn’t be losing.

                      How many of the team that just lost to Japan were their best team or was it all second stringers? Just wondering if total lack of depth partially explains the loss.

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                      @Frank

                      Dunno about the depth of their squad, but Ireland looked tired and fatigued.

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                      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                        If Japan won this it would it be bigger than the win against the Boks in 2015?

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                        @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                        If Japan won this it would it be bigger than the win against the Boks in 2015?

                        No chance of that happening.

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                        • jeggaJ jegga

                          Right whos playing Jamie Joseph in the movie? My vote is Dave Fane

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                          • FrankF Frank

                            @Billy-Tell said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                            @Frank said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                            Isn't this result kind of bad for us and potentially good for the Boks?

                            Potentially yes. But I think Ireland’s gameplan has been found out. They also rely on sexton who has been under an injury cloud. They also can’t take the Samoa game for granted so only Russia can get the B team. If they play like today though, NZ wouldn’t be losing.

                            How many of the team that just lost to Japan were their best team or was it all second stringers? Just wondering if total lack of depth partially explains the loss.

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                            @Frank said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                            @Billy-Tell said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                            @Frank said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                            Isn't this result kind of bad for us and potentially good for the Boks?

                            Potentially yes. But I think Ireland’s gameplan has been found out. They also rely on sexton who has been under an injury cloud. They also can’t take the Samoa game for granted so only Russia can get the B team. If they play like today though, NZ wouldn’t be losing.

                            How many of the team that just lost to Japan were their best team or was it all second stringers? Just wondering if total lack of depth partially explains the loss.

                            It was close to first team: Sexton, Aki, Henshaw injured. Otherwise that was pretty much their top 23.

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                            • jeggaJ jegga

                              @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                              @jegga said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                              now would be a good time to visit planet rubgy, the swarm as they call Irish fans are deeply and understandably unpopular

                              Normally avoid PR like the plague, but this post was bloody priceless:

                              "One of the most one sided ref performances I’ve ever seen. That said, Japan played us off the pitch and fully deserved their win, well done."

                              This was my favourite from the swarm on pr

                              Well done to Joe for staying so calm knowing that somebody in that stadium is now going around with a suitcase full of yen

                              Irish fans gunna irish fan

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                              @jegga said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                              @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                              @jegga said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                              now would be a good time to visit planet rubgy, the swarm as they call Irish fans are deeply and understandably unpopular

                              Normally avoid PR like the plague, but this post was bloody priceless:

                              "One of the most one sided ref performances I’ve ever seen. That said, Japan played us off the pitch and fully deserved their win, well done."

                              This was my favourite from the swarm on pr

                              Well done to Joe for staying so calm knowing that somebody in that stadium is now going around with a suitcase full of yen

                              Irish fans gunna irish fan

                              This was good though, fairplay to the lad

                              Hahahaha!!! Would hate to be Irish right now... Oh wait, I am.

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                                @mikedogz said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

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                                • A akan004

                                  @taniwharugby said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                  we have to win all our games once we get out of pool play, be it Ireland, Scotland, Samoa or Japan, it makes zero difference who it is.

                                  Having an easy quarter final makes a big difference.

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                                  @akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                  @taniwharugby said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                  we have to win all our games once we get out of pool play, be it Ireland, Scotland, Samoa or Japan, it makes zero difference who it is.

                                  Having an easy quarter final makes a big difference.

                                  Exactly. Having an “easy” quarter makes a HUGE difference. Saying “we have to beat whoever we play anyway” is a massive over simplification.

                                  People are getting way ahead of themselves thinking this result means Ireland are easy beats. The Boks weren’t in 2015 after getting done by japan.

                                  It will be shit if this results in the Boks getting the easy run through the quarters and IMO would increase their chances of winning the whole thing a fair bit.

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                                  • pukunuiP pukunui

                                    @akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                    @taniwharugby said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                    we have to win all our games once we get out of pool play, be it Ireland, Scotland, Samoa or Japan, it makes zero difference who it is.

                                    Having an easy quarter final makes a big difference.

                                    Exactly. Having an “easy” quarter makes a HUGE difference. Saying “we have to beat whoever we play anyway” is a massive over simplification.

                                    People are getting way ahead of themselves thinking this result means Ireland are easy beats. The Boks weren’t in 2015 after getting done by japan.

                                    It will be shit if this results in the Boks getting the easy run through the quarters and IMO would increase their chances of winning the whole thing a fair bit.

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                                    @pukunui said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                    @akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                    @taniwharugby said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                    we have to win all our games once we get out of pool play, be it Ireland, Scotland, Samoa or Japan, it makes zero difference who it is.

                                    Having an easy quarter final makes a big difference.

                                    Exactly. Having an “easy” quarter makes a HUGE difference. Saying “we have to beat whoever we play anyway” is a massive over simplification.

                                    People are getting way ahead of themselves thinking this result means Ireland are easy beats. The Boks weren’t in 2015 after getting done by japan.

                                    It will be shit if this results in the Boks getting the easy run through the quarters and IMO would increase their chances of winning the whole thing a fair bit.

                                    Did the boks play their top team against Japan?

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                                    • pukunuiP pukunui

                                      @akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                      @taniwharugby said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                      we have to win all our games once we get out of pool play, be it Ireland, Scotland, Samoa or Japan, it makes zero difference who it is.

                                      Having an easy quarter final makes a big difference.

                                      Exactly. Having an “easy” quarter makes a HUGE difference. Saying “we have to beat whoever we play anyway” is a massive over simplification.

                                      People are getting way ahead of themselves thinking this result means Ireland are easy beats. The Boks weren’t in 2015 after getting done by japan.

                                      It will be shit if this results in the Boks getting the easy run through the quarters and IMO would increase their chances of winning the whole thing a fair bit.

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                                      @pukunui Exactly. People tend to foolishly underrate or overrate a team based on one performance. If we played Ireland in the quarter final, there's no guarantees that we will win it.

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        @pukunui said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                        @akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                        @taniwharugby said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                        we have to win all our games once we get out of pool play, be it Ireland, Scotland, Samoa or Japan, it makes zero difference who it is.

                                        Having an easy quarter final makes a big difference.

                                        Exactly. Having an “easy” quarter makes a HUGE difference. Saying “we have to beat whoever we play anyway” is a massive over simplification.

                                        People are getting way ahead of themselves thinking this result means Ireland are easy beats. The Boks weren’t in 2015 after getting done by japan.

                                        It will be shit if this results in the Boks getting the easy run through the quarters and IMO would increase their chances of winning the whole thing a fair bit.

                                        Did the boks play their top team against Japan?

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                                        @Bones said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                        @pukunui said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                        @akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                        @taniwharugby said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                        we have to win all our games once we get out of pool play, be it Ireland, Scotland, Samoa or Japan, it makes zero difference who it is.

                                        Having an easy quarter final makes a big difference.

                                        Exactly. Having an “easy” quarter makes a HUGE difference. Saying “we have to beat whoever we play anyway” is a massive over simplification.

                                        People are getting way ahead of themselves thinking this result means Ireland are easy beats. The Boks weren’t in 2015 after getting done by japan.

                                        It will be shit if this results in the Boks getting the easy run through the quarters and IMO would increase their chances of winning the whole thing a fair bit.

                                        Did the boks play their top team against Japan?

                                        Don’t know, don’t care. If you think Ireland are finished you are nuts.

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                                        • pukunuiP pukunui

                                          @akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                          @taniwharugby said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                          we have to win all our games once we get out of pool play, be it Ireland, Scotland, Samoa or Japan, it makes zero difference who it is.

                                          Having an easy quarter final makes a big difference.

                                          Exactly. Having an “easy” quarter makes a HUGE difference. Saying “we have to beat whoever we play anyway” is a massive over simplification.

                                          People are getting way ahead of themselves thinking this result means Ireland are easy beats. The Boks weren’t in 2015 after getting done by japan.

                                          It will be shit if this results in the Boks getting the easy run through the quarters and IMO would increase their chances of winning the whole thing a fair bit.

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                                          @pukunui said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                          @akan004 said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                          @taniwharugby said in RWC: Japan v Ireland (Pool A):

                                          we have to win all our games once we get out of pool play, be it Ireland, Scotland, Samoa or Japan, it makes zero difference who it is.

                                          Having an easy quarter final makes a big difference.

                                          Exactly. Having an “easy” quarter makes a HUGE difference. Saying “we have to beat whoever we play anyway” is a massive over simplification.

                                          People are getting way ahead of themselves thinking this result means Ireland are easy beats. The Boks weren’t in 2015 after getting done by japan.

                                          It will be shit if this results in the Boks getting the easy run through the quarters and IMO would increase their chances of winning the whole thing a fair bit.

                                          Dunno about that, I think conditions really don’t suit this Irish side that like to grind teams down through the forwards. I thought they’d go up a gear in the 2nd 40 and win comfortably, but Japan had run them off their feet; the Irish pack was absolutely knackered. Every team has a pretty clear blueprint to follow now.

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