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2019 NZ Schools

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    @98blueandgold Latrell Smiler-Ah Kiong is a much better first five-eighth than the 10 and 22 in this team. Game management was very average. Jordan Thompson-Dunn is also a better midfielder than what we've seen in this game. Just two examples of players who could have made a difference.

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    @Stargazer they are good players but do not think they could have changed that game or are much better that Morgan and Wrampling. All I’m stating is Aussies had better systems and a few X factor that NZ just didn’t have incl players who didn’t get selected in squad.

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      @Stargazer they are good players but do not think they could have changed that game or are much better that Morgan and Wrampling. All I’m stating is Aussies had better systems and a few X factor that NZ just didn’t have incl players who didn’t get selected in squad.

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      @98blueandgold And I clearly disagree with you. We won't know whether they would have changed the game, but in the end the difference was only 4 points. So with better players (I'm convinced that these two are - particularly Smiler-Ah Kiong) and a few other different selections, we could have won.

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        Was a nailbiter in the end, but glad we got the job done. Really impressed by our outside centre, Josh Flook, amongst others.

        Joseph Suali'i is such a freak too - shame he's heading off to league.

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          Was a nailbiter in the end, but glad we got the job done. Really impressed by our outside centre, Josh Flook, amongst others.

          Joseph Suali'i is such a freak too - shame he's heading off to league.

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          @barbarian Some good talent in that squad!

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            How does the Hammettuer keep getting jobs?

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                • StargazerS Stargazer

                  @98blueandgold Latrell Smiler-Ah Kiong is a much better first five-eighth than the 10 and 22 in this team. Game management was very average. Jordan Thompson-Dunn is also a better midfielder than what we've seen in this game. Just two examples of players who could have made a difference.

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                  @Stargazer watching this I’m so glad the hurricanes got Aidan Morgan and we get to keep Ollie Lewis. A shame Lewis only got 10 mins at first five in the 2 games. What did you think of Zach Gallagher.

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                    I was at both games and sat next to some of the parents of the NZ Schools team, and plenty of Aussies. Interesting to overhear some of the gossip.

                    Anyway, it was noticeable that the Aust backs were quick off the line and NZS struggled to cope with that. Sound familiar. The Aust team were more urgent around the field and tended to be able to play on the front foot when in possession. For most of the game NZ was passing well behind the advantage line and tried to go wide before going forward. The NZS midfield was too similar but I don't think that was the winning or losing of the game.

                    As far as selection goes, there is a heavy Chch contingent in the squad which won't be a surprise because 2 of the 3 coaches are from the region.

                    I don't know if this was mentioned in the commentary but there were 2 brothers playing in the main game - one from each team.

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      I was at both games and sat next to some of the parents of the NZ Schools team, and plenty of Aussies. Interesting to overhear some of the gossip.

                      Anyway, it was noticeable that the Aust backs were quick off the line and NZS struggled to cope with that. Sound familiar. The Aust team were more urgent around the field and tended to be able to play on the front foot when in possession. For most of the game NZ was passing well behind the advantage line and tried to go wide before going forward. The NZS midfield was too similar but I don't think that was the winning or losing of the game.

                      As far as selection goes, there is a heavy Chch contingent in the squad which won't be a surprise because 2 of the 3 coaches are from the region.

                      I don't know if this was mentioned in the commentary but there were 2 brothers playing in the main game - one from each team.

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                      @Bovidae Yes, that of the two brothers was mentioned (I forgot their name).

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                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        @Bovidae Yes, that of the two brothers was mentioned (I forgot their name).

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                        @Stargazer said in 2019 NZ Schools:

                        @Bovidae Yes, that of the two brothers was mentioned (I forgot their name).

                        That would explain the hug between the Kiwi and the Aussie I noticed after the haka.

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                          Tiaan Tauakipulu (NZ no.3) and Keynan Tauakipulu (Aust no.20). The latter was still playing for St Kents earlier in the season. I noticed an Aust player embracing some NZ players from St Kents after the Monday game and wondered what the reason was.

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                          • BovidaeB Bovidae

                            I was at both games and sat next to some of the parents of the NZ Schools team, and plenty of Aussies. Interesting to overhear some of the gossip.

                            Anyway, it was noticeable that the Aust backs were quick off the line and NZS struggled to cope with that. Sound familiar. The Aust team were more urgent around the field and tended to be able to play on the front foot when in possession. For most of the game NZ was passing well behind the advantage line and tried to go wide before going forward. The NZS midfield was too similar but I don't think that was the winning or losing of the game.

                            As far as selection goes, there is a heavy Chch contingent in the squad which won't be a surprise because 2 of the 3 coaches are from the region.

                            I don't know if this was mentioned in the commentary but there were 2 brothers playing in the main game - one from each team.

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                            @Bovidae in today’s starting team there was 2 from Christchurch. Admittedly there was 5 on the bench. Apart from the dropped kick off Gardiner was solid when he got on there. Hughes was definitely the better halfback and Ollie Lewis didn’t get much game time. The 2 St Andrews props meh average

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                              @Bovidae in today’s starting team there was 2 from Christchurch. Admittedly there was 5 on the bench. Apart from the dropped kick off Gardiner was solid when he got on there. Hughes was definitely the better halfback and Ollie Lewis didn’t get much game time. The 2 St Andrews props meh average

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                              Hughes was definitely the better halfback

                              I thought Paea played better than Hughes against Fiji so can understand why he started in this game.

                              The 2 St Andrews props meh average

                              One picked for his name? 🙂 Disappointed Vincent Green must still be injured because he is a very strong scrummager and good around the field. Calder was the beneficiary of his injury.

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                                Hughes was definitely the better halfback

                                I thought Paea played better than Hughes against Fiji so can understand why he started in this game.

                                The 2 St Andrews props meh average

                                One picked for his name? 🙂 Disappointed Vincent Green must still be injured because he is a very strong scrummager and good around the field. Calder was the beneficiary of his injury.

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                                @Bovidae yes Paea was great against Fiji. I’ve watched Sexton a few times this year and he is a pretty good player. Yeah a couple of ex Canterbury dads in that team.

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                                • StargazerS Stargazer

                                  FT: NZ Schools Barbarians 52 - 22 Fiji Schools

                                  To me, the best forward was no. 8 Sosaia Moala and the best back Latrell Smiler-Ah Kiong.

                                  The 10-12 combo between Smiler-Ah Kiong and Cook-Savage worked well. The latter kicked well.

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                                  @Stargazer said in 2019 NZ Schools:

                                  FT: NZ Schools Barbarians 52 - 22 Fiji Schools

                                  To me, the best forward was no. 8 Sosaia Moala and the best back Latrell Smiler-Ah Kiong.

                                  The 10-12 combo between Smiler-Ah Kiong and Cook-Savage worked well. The latter kicked well.

                                  Saia is an absolute beast. I'm really surprised that he didn't make the NZ schools team.
                                  He is quick (could easily play winger) and it's surprising that he was a prop.
                                  If the Blues don't look after him, he could be off to league. I hear the Roosters (as well as other teams) are after him.
                                  If NZRU are smart, they'll fast track him in the NZ Sevens team like they do with all the other promising talents.

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                                    @Stargazer said in 2019 NZ Schools:

                                    FT: NZ Schools Barbarians 52 - 22 Fiji Schools

                                    To me, the best forward was no. 8 Sosaia Moala and the best back Latrell Smiler-Ah Kiong.

                                    The 10-12 combo between Smiler-Ah Kiong and Cook-Savage worked well. The latter kicked well.

                                    Saia is an absolute beast. I'm really surprised that he didn't make the NZ schools team.
                                    He is quick (could easily play winger) and it's surprising that he was a prop.
                                    If the Blues don't look after him, he could be off to league. I hear the Roosters (as well as other teams) are after him.
                                    If NZRU are smart, they'll fast track him in the NZ Sevens team like they do with all the other promising talents.

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                                    @mimic said in 2019 NZ Schools:

                                    I'm really surprised that he didn't make the NZ schools team.

                                    This is how the team is picked.

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                                      @Stargazer said in 2019 NZ Schools:

                                      FT: NZ Schools Barbarians 52 - 22 Fiji Schools

                                      To me, the best forward was no. 8 Sosaia Moala and the best back Latrell Smiler-Ah Kiong.

                                      The 10-12 combo between Smiler-Ah Kiong and Cook-Savage worked well. The latter kicked well.

                                      Saia is an absolute beast. I'm really surprised that he didn't make the NZ schools team.
                                      He is quick (could easily play winger) and it's surprising that he was a prop.
                                      If the Blues don't look after him, he could be off to league. I hear the Roosters (as well as other teams) are after him.
                                      If NZRU are smart, they'll fast track him in the NZ Sevens team like they do with all the other promising talents.

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                                      @mimic I don't know about sevens. He looks too big for sevens and not fast enough. But definitely one you want to keep in rugby!

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                                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                                        @mimic I don't know about sevens. He looks too big for sevens and not fast enough. But definitely one you want to keep in rugby!

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                                        @Stargazer said in 2019 NZ Schools:

                                        @mimic I don't know about sevens. He looks too big for sevens and not fast enough. But definitely one you want to keep in rugby!

                                        I heard from some in camp that he has the fastest 40, faster than the backs.

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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          Hamateur strikes again!

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                                          @KiwiMurph said in 2019 NZ Schools:

                                          Hamateur strikes again!

                                          What the f*** are the NZRU doing giving a coach with such a lowsy track-record and terrible reputation the responsibility of nurturing the cream of the crop from school's Rugby?

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