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2019 Rugby World Cup

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  • SnowyS Snowy

    @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

    the predicted path,

    @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

    the typhoon will be over the stadium

    Maybe. I spent 25 years trying to avoid these fcking things and they are seriously unpredictable. They use "super computers" and have much more accurate temperature monitoring and models these days to make better guesses but still not an accurate science.

    They would be crazy to jump the gun and cancel anything until the day of the match really. Gonna look pretty silly if they do it now and it is a calm sunny day (more likely to be windy and rainy on the outer belt of the bitch if it shifts course, but it could still be playable, and safe for spectators to get to the match).

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    #734

    @Snowy said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

    @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

    the predicted path,

    @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

    the typhoon will be over the stadium

    Maybe. I spent 25 years trying to avoid these fcking things and they are seriously unpredictable. They use "super computers" and have much more accurate temperature monitoring and models these days to make better guesses but still not an accurate science.

    They would be crazy to jump the gun and cancel anything until the day of the match really. Gonna look pretty silly if they do it now and it is a calm sunny day (more likely to be windy and rainy on the outer belt of the bitch if it shifts course, but it could still be playable, and safe for spectators to get to the match).

    I agree that on a Thursday it seems remarkably early to postpone, but they're nothing if not conscientious.

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      #735

      Apparently they're trying to get Japan vs Scotland moved to Oita (which is covered). This would make sense as it's the one match that would determine which two of three teams could make the quarter finals. The other permutation, France v England, is just about who tops the pool.

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      • antipodeanA antipodean

        @Snowy said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

        @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

        the predicted path,

        @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

        the typhoon will be over the stadium

        Maybe. I spent 25 years trying to avoid these fcking things and they are seriously unpredictable. They use "super computers" and have much more accurate temperature monitoring and models these days to make better guesses but still not an accurate science.

        They would be crazy to jump the gun and cancel anything until the day of the match really. Gonna look pretty silly if they do it now and it is a calm sunny day (more likely to be windy and rainy on the outer belt of the bitch if it shifts course, but it could still be playable, and safe for spectators to get to the match).

        I agree that on a Thursday it seems remarkably early to postpone, but they're nothing if not conscientious.

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        @antipodean Yeah. Talking about it is sensible, doing anything yet would be stupid. They may have to, but too early yet.

        Typhoons also hate land, the fuel is warm water / moist air so it is likely to weaken as it moves north over cooler water and hits land with reduced moisture. When that happens is also determined by the speed that it travels, also a very unpredictable thing. Computer modelling only goes so far, this is nature and constantly changing. The presence of the Typhoon itself influences what happens around it and can modify strength and direction.

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          Rapido
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          #737

          Fans shouldn't come into it when deciding logistics of moving the games.

          As long as Sapporo Dome isn't being used for Baseball or something, any games looking to be effected should be moved up there. Move the players and officials - Fans left to their own devices. Sell tickets in Sapporo to first come first served (e.g. mostly locals).

          This is a piss weak response.

          Move the games. Offer any poor petal effected fans some free counselling.

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            Rapido
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            #738

            Kobe is also roofed.

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              Machpants
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              #739

              Relocated games should be closed doors no fans, fair to everyone then

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              • antipodeanA antipodean

                Given the predicted path, I don't see how they have an option but to cancel Scotland vs Japan - the typhoon will be over the stadium.

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                It's unfortunate, but Scotland would've expected to be second in the pool, not facing the conundrum of Ireland doing a Brighton.

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                @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                Given the predicted path, I don't see how they have an option but to cancel Scotland vs Japan - the typhoon will be over the stadium.

                Scotland's record in typhoons is not good. Just that 24-0 drubbing against the ABs in '75.

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                  50 knots - put another reef in but no reason not to sail.

                  I was in Hanoi when a typhoon was due to make a direct hit. Airport closed, streets deserted, massive troop deployment. Hours before it was expected it suddenly veered off into southern China. All we got was a bit of rain. Was surreal though only the really hardcore old alkies - or as I called them my VN Beer Buddies, were at the normally packed Bia Corner.

                  By all means make provisions but to cancel this far out is ludicrous.

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                  • RapidoR Rapido

                    Kobe is also roofed.

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                    Bovidae
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                    #742

                    @Rapido said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                    Kobe is also roofed.

                    Toyota Stadium has a retractable roof, and is closer to Yokohama. They could play a game the day after NZ vs Italy.

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                    • rotatedR rotated

                      @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                      Given the predicted path, I don't see how they have an option but to cancel Scotland vs Japan - the typhoon will be over the stadium.

                      Scotland's record in typhoons is not good. Just that 24-0 drubbing against the ABs in '75.

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                      @rotated I was there BG walked on water that day.

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                        #744

                        Good change up for a Thursday....

                        'Whens the game named?'Rather than 'Whens the team named'

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                        • dogmeatD dogmeat

                          @rotated I was there BG walked on water that day.

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                          @dogmeat said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                          @rotated I was there BG walked on water that day.

                          My old man was too, I always thought he talking it up a bit until the vision surfaced 5 or so years ago.

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                          • SnowyS Snowy

                            @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                            the predicted path,

                            @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                            the typhoon will be over the stadium

                            Maybe. I spent 25 years trying to avoid these fcking things and they are seriously unpredictable. They use "super computers" and have much more accurate temperature monitoring and models these days to make better guesses but still not an accurate science.

                            They would be crazy to jump the gun and cancel anything until the day of the match really. Gonna look pretty silly if they do it now and it is a calm sunny day (more likely to be windy and rainy on the outer belt of the bitch if it shifts course, but it could still be playable, and safe for spectators to get to the match).

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                            #746

                            @Snowy said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                            @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                            the predicted path,

                            @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                            the typhoon will be over the stadium

                            Maybe. I spent 25 years trying to avoid these fcking things and they are seriously unpredictable. They use "super computers" and have much more accurate temperature monitoring and models these days to make better guesses but still not an accurate science.

                            They would be crazy to jump the gun and cancel anything until the day of the match really. Gonna look pretty silly if they do it now and it is a calm sunny day (more likely to be windy and rainy on the outer belt of the bitch if it shifts course, but it could still be playable, and safe for spectators to get to the match).

                            The morning of the day Yasi hit, it was a Cat 5 heading straight at Cairns. It ended up crossing the coast 2 hours south, and we ended up getting fuck all.

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                              #747

                              Also, this is Cyclone season in Japan, surely part of their submission was contingency plans for exactly this scenario. If not, a gross oversight by both parties.

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                              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                @Snowy said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                the predicted path,

                                @antipodean said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                the typhoon will be over the stadium

                                Maybe. I spent 25 years trying to avoid these fcking things and they are seriously unpredictable. They use "super computers" and have much more accurate temperature monitoring and models these days to make better guesses but still not an accurate science.

                                They would be crazy to jump the gun and cancel anything until the day of the match really. Gonna look pretty silly if they do it now and it is a calm sunny day (more likely to be windy and rainy on the outer belt of the bitch if it shifts course, but it could still be playable, and safe for spectators to get to the match).

                                The morning of the day Yasi hit, it was a Cat 5 heading straight at Cairns. It ended up crossing the coast 2 hours south, and we ended up getting fuck all.

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                                Snowy
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #748

                                @mariner4life Exactly.

                                They should be prepared but it could just be like wet powder, a damp squib, and nothing happens.

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                                  Rembrandt
                                  wrote on last edited by Rembrandt
                                  #749

                                  What the hell? They are potentially going to call Ireland vs Samoa off for integrity reasons (To be fair this was on stuff.co.nz)

                                  I get the idea as far as everyone in the pool playing 3 games but what about the fans?

                                  edit actually its the Telegraph reporting it

                                  "However, The Telegraph has reported that World Rugby will likely cancel the Ireland v Samoa match as well to ensure competition "integrity"."

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                                    gt12
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                                    #750

                                    When they are big, they are big. Chiba is still getting cleaned up from the last one.

                                    However, half the time they also end up moving slightly or moving slowly, so predictions are almost always wrong.

                                    I’m really surprised they didn’t have Sapporo or Kobe (I think has a covered stadium) set up as the back-ups for the pool games, to be played in an empty stadium. That’s far less than ideal, but also not that hard to arrange.

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                                      Snowy
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #751

                                      "World Rugby are set to make a call on the status of the weekend's games at 4pm NZT."

                                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12275101

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                                        canefan
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                                        #752

                                        Who the hell organizes a world cup in Typhoon season???

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                                        • canefanC canefan

                                          Who the hell organizes a world cup in Typhoon season???

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                                          @canefan said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                          Who the hell organizes a world cup in Typhoon season???

                                          Gin soaked twats in Dublin?

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