Magpies v Tasman
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@Nepia said in Hawke's Bay v Ta$man:
@Bovidae said in Hawke's Bay v Ta$man:
@Chris-B Just as well you didn't include the next 2 lines. You might have triggered @MN5 and @Rancid-Schnitzel.
Now I want to know what the last two lines are.
Do you know the song?
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@Snollygoster said in Hawke's Bay v Ta$man:
Boy, that is an impressive Ta$man team, both individually and collectively, but you'd have to say that HB were shown up in certain areas which must be a concern going forward. I really thought they would front up better.
The semis will be absolutely fascinating. Getting top spot on the ladder is a huge advantage so you would have to say that favouritism has swung back towards BOP.
I think we know our issues, we're fine with the ball but less so without it. We definitely need to tighten our defence.
Clearly we couldn't compete with the Invitational XV scrum, but it's less of an issue with the Championship teams we'll face.
Probably our biggest area of concern is we let teams get away from us when a few decisions go against us ... both BoP and the Cheque Books got rolls on that we couldn't peg back.
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@Bovidae said in Hawke's Bay v Ta$man:
@Nepia said in Hawke's Bay v Ta$man:
@Bovidae said in Hawke's Bay v Ta$man:
@Chris-B Just as well you didn't include the next 2 lines. You might have triggered @MN5 and @Rancid-Schnitzel.
Now I want to know what the last two lines are.
Do you know the song?
Nope - otherwise I wouldn't be asking what the two lines were.
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@Snollygoster You can try to talk us down all you like. I think we had a very good game. Some weak passages of play, including 10 minutes with 14 men, but also some brilliant rugby. No team has scored that many points against Super Rugby team Ta$man as we have. I expected our young squad full of youngsters to get hammered much more than they were.
We'll get Evans and Allardice back for the semis., and hopefully McNicol, too Only injury concern is Toala. We'll be very competitive in the finals, also against the Steamers if we both reach the final.
I'm happy to give you the favourites tag for the final though. We perform well as underdogs. People have underestimated us all season.
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@Chris-B I tell what you what , it’s one thing to have a team with a whole lot of names and you can see that with Auckland , they have some talent I would gladly have in the Taniwha Squad, it’s another thing getting them to perform ..and that’s what this Ta$man team are doing..also being a supporter of Hawkes Bay , they should be pleased with that effort, they could have folded , but came back and scored a couple of tries ..I think there’s 2 boys in the Ta$man team who have got All Black written all over them ..Nankervill and Parkinson ..
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We definitely need
@Chris-B said in Hawke's Bay v Ta$man:
@Nepia https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/queen/bicyclerace.html
Hmmm, seems I only know the chorus, might have hated Queen if I knew those two lines!
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@Steven-Harris I'd add Leicester Fainga'anuku. Especially if Rieko can't get back to his old level.
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@Steven-Harris And Will Jordan.
@Stargazer - Big Leicester is starting to look like a young Julian Savea.
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@Stargazer said in Hawke's Bay v Ta$man:
@Snollygoster You can try to talk us down all you like. I think we had a very good game. Some weak passages of play, including 10 minutes with 14 men, but also some brilliant rugby. No team has scored that many points against Super Rugby team Ta$man as we have. I expected our young squad full of youngsters to get hammered much more than they were.
We'll get Evans and Allardice back for the semis., and hopefully McNicol, too Only injury concern is Toala. We'll be very competitive in the finals, also against the Steamers if we both reach the final.
I'm happy to give you the favourites tag for the final though. We perform well as underdogs. People have underestimated us all season.
We definitely need Toala back for that midfield punch, although Fomai was dangerous with the ball. Also, I'd be tempted to play Evans at 7 and keep all three of our 8's in the team.
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@Stargazer said in Hawke's Bay v Ta$man:
No team has scored that many points against Super Rugby team Ta$man as we have.Though in reality, the only Ta$man players that were first choice starters for their Super rugby team are Lomax, Nankivell and Havili.
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@Nepia Yes, I'd really like to see 6. Mikaele-Tu'u, 7 Evans, 8 Flanders, although O'Connor had a good game today.
I wonder whether they'll move Ili to 12 and keep Fomai at 13, if Toala is out. If McNicol is back, where will they play him? 12? 13? They seem to see him as a midfielder, but I'm not sure which position he prefers there, esp if Toala isn't available.
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@Stargazer to be honest I am not totally sold on the 2 brothers, let’s see what they can do at super level, we should not forget they are on the flanks of a very, very good team..
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@Steven-Harris Leicester has shown promise; I'm not sold on Tima either.
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@Higgins not too sure where Snolly was coming from , personally I think Ta$man would beat the steamers by a similar score..
This Ta$man team is a very good team stacked with super rugby talent and well coached ..they paid the magpies the ultimate compliment by playing a full strength team. -
@Stargazer said in Hawke's Bay v Ta$man:
@Nepia Yes, I'd really like to see 6. Mikaele-Tu'u, 7 Evans, 8 Flanders, although O'Connor had a good game today.
I wonder whether they'll move Ili to 12 and keep Fomai at 13, if Toala is out. If McNicol is back, where will they play him? 12? 13? They seem to see him as a midfielder, but I'm not sure which position he prefers there, esp if Toala isn't available.
I'd assume McNicol would move into the midfield, but not sure they'll play him after being out so long. I don't mind Ili but he's not any better than the local boys so I'm always happy when they play the local boys.
Yeah, O'Connor had one of his better games.
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@Stargazer I don't mean to "talk you down" but I beg to differ. I thought you were shown up at scrums, lineouts, on defense and appeared to lack imagination on attack. The final few points came when the game was effectively over and Ta$man had replaced many of their topline players which blew out the score.
Don't get me wrong, you guys have a competitive team but it must be a concern to concede so many points against us and Ta$man and on that performance, the TAB odds of a BOP Championship win will be lengthening. Bop definitely has the momentum and probably has the easier run to the final. But as the Southland game showed, we are beatable. Personally I would love to see a HB-Bop final.
