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  • Chris B.C Chris B.

    @nzzp said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

    @Paekakboyz said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

    I don't get the hate on our broadband. Fibre is in most places, and going out fast.

    also, check this out
    https://www.crowninfrastructure.govt.nz/rural/what/

    Edit: I got interrupted.
    In 2017, Crown Infrastructure Partners (CIP) assessed that 90,000 rural households and businesses cannot access broadband speeds of at least 20 Mbps download. The RBI2 programme aims to reduce this number as much as possible.

    So we're talking about 90,000 households and businesses who can't access fast-ish internet at the momehnt, and that's dropping. IN the context of 5M people in NZ, that's a pity for some, but it's not a train wreck. I reckon our internet infrastructure is usually exceptional, and not too bad overall.

    Yeah - I think nationally we're not doing badly with broadband compared to most other countries - far lower population density than most countries - probably making the cost of a national rollout higher per capita than most.

    Interesting in this context though...

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12275038

    As of Wednesday, there had been over 186,000 Spark Sport subscriptions for the Rugby World Cup Tournament Pass.

    Anecdotally, I suspect that there would be a significantly higher proportion of people in those 90K rural households that would have subscribed to RWC than in the broader population - if they could have. Most people I've talked to about it round here would have.

    I read somewhere that Spark was thought to have paid $12 million for RWC rights (which seems cheap, but apparently double what Sky paid last time). So they'll presumably have broken approximately even. But 186K subscriptions nonetheless seems quite low to me - for what is probably NZ's premier sporting event.

    And cricket is not rugby. As I recall, those guys who came in initially and took the EPL away from Sky with their Premier League Pass or something similar,didn't do well - like many pioneers, they probably perished on the trail. I wonder whether the major effect of domestic cricket going to Spark will be that many less people will watch cricket. To watch all the BCs games, you'll have to have two subscriptions - not a prohibitive issue for wealthy and ardent fans, but will casual fans switch to Spark and pay both? Or will they just cancel Sky and go to the beach?

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    @Chris-B

    @Chris-B said in Spark Sport:

    @nzzp said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

    @Paekakboyz said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

    I don't get the hate on our broadband. Fibre is in most places, and going out fast.

    also, check this out
    https://www.crowninfrastructure.govt.nz/rural/what/

    Edit: I got interrupted.
    In 2017, Crown Infrastructure Partners (CIP) assessed that 90,000 rural households and businesses cannot access broadband speeds of at least 20 Mbps download. The RBI2 programme aims to reduce this number as much as possible.

    So we're talking about 90,000 households and businesses who can't access fast-ish internet at the momehnt, and that's dropping. IN the context of 5M people in NZ, that's a pity for some, but it's not a train wreck. I reckon our internet infrastructure is usually exceptional, and not too bad overall.

    Yeah - I think nationally we're not doing badly with broadband compared to most other countries - far lower population density than most countries - probably making the cost of a national rollout higher per capita than most.

    Interesting in this context though...

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12275038

    As of Wednesday, there had been over 186,000 Spark Sport subscriptions for the Rugby World Cup Tournament Pass.

    Anecdotally, I suspect that there would be a significantly higher proportion of people in those 90K rural households that would have subscribed to RWC than in the broader population - if they could have. Most people I've talked to about it round here would have.

    I read somewhere that Spark was thought to have paid $12 million for RWC rights (which seems cheap, but apparently double what Sky paid last time). So they'll presumably have broken approximately even. But 186K subscriptions nonetheless seems quite low to me - for what is probably NZ's premier sporting event.

    And cricket is not rugby. As I recall, those guys who came in initially and took the EPL away from Sky with their Premier League Pass or something similar,didn't do well - like many pioneers, they probably perished on the trail. I wonder whether the major effect of domestic cricket going to Spark will be that many less people will watch cricket. To watch all the BCs games, you'll have to have two subscriptions - not a prohibitive issue for wealthy and ardent fans, but will casual fans switch to Spark and pay both? Or will they just cancel Sky and go to the beach?

    I would strongly suspect casual cricket fans don't care about overseas tours except the ones to Australia due to time zones. If the pricing stays the same, you can essentially get the full cricket season for a similar cost as one month of Sky.

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    • L LABCAT

      @Chris-B

      @Chris-B said in Spark Sport:

      @nzzp said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

      @Paekakboyz said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

      I don't get the hate on our broadband. Fibre is in most places, and going out fast.

      also, check this out
      https://www.crowninfrastructure.govt.nz/rural/what/

      Edit: I got interrupted.
      In 2017, Crown Infrastructure Partners (CIP) assessed that 90,000 rural households and businesses cannot access broadband speeds of at least 20 Mbps download. The RBI2 programme aims to reduce this number as much as possible.

      So we're talking about 90,000 households and businesses who can't access fast-ish internet at the momehnt, and that's dropping. IN the context of 5M people in NZ, that's a pity for some, but it's not a train wreck. I reckon our internet infrastructure is usually exceptional, and not too bad overall.

      Yeah - I think nationally we're not doing badly with broadband compared to most other countries - far lower population density than most countries - probably making the cost of a national rollout higher per capita than most.

      Interesting in this context though...

      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12275038

      As of Wednesday, there had been over 186,000 Spark Sport subscriptions for the Rugby World Cup Tournament Pass.

      Anecdotally, I suspect that there would be a significantly higher proportion of people in those 90K rural households that would have subscribed to RWC than in the broader population - if they could have. Most people I've talked to about it round here would have.

      I read somewhere that Spark was thought to have paid $12 million for RWC rights (which seems cheap, but apparently double what Sky paid last time). So they'll presumably have broken approximately even. But 186K subscriptions nonetheless seems quite low to me - for what is probably NZ's premier sporting event.

      And cricket is not rugby. As I recall, those guys who came in initially and took the EPL away from Sky with their Premier League Pass or something similar,didn't do well - like many pioneers, they probably perished on the trail. I wonder whether the major effect of domestic cricket going to Spark will be that many less people will watch cricket. To watch all the BCs games, you'll have to have two subscriptions - not a prohibitive issue for wealthy and ardent fans, but will casual fans switch to Spark and pay both? Or will they just cancel Sky and go to the beach?

      I would strongly suspect casual cricket fans don't care about overseas tours except the ones to Australia due to time zones. If the pricing stays the same, you can essentially get the full cricket season for a similar cost as one month of Sky.

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      @LABCAT Yeah - but, I'll be interested to see how many people take up the option.

      As above, Spark has sold 186K subscriptions to RWC - whereas Sky apparently has almost 800K subscribers. And I'd expect RWC to be way more popular than cricket.

      It will be a pity if the main result of this is a heap less people watching cricket.

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        not worth starting a new thread, but Seven Sharp (everyones fave) did a little piece (under 4 mins) on the guys from the 1014.

        https://www.tvnz.co.nz/shows/seven-sharp/clips/meet-the-two-rugby-nuts-who-run-a-diy-rugby-analysis-show-out-of-a-tauranga-shed

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        • Chris B.C Chris B.

          @LABCAT Yeah - but, I'll be interested to see how many people take up the option.

          As above, Spark has sold 186K subscriptions to RWC - whereas Sky apparently has almost 800K subscribers. And I'd expect RWC to be way more popular than cricket.

          It will be a pity if the main result of this is a heap less people watching cricket.

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          @Chris-B said in Spark Sport:

          As above, Spark has sold 186K subscriptions to RWC

          Not sold, have 186K subscriptions. Spark were offering the RWC package free with some new accounts so I doubt all of those are paying customers.

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          • Chris B.C Chris B.

            @LABCAT Yeah - but, I'll be interested to see how many people take up the option.

            As above, Spark has sold 186K subscriptions to RWC - whereas Sky apparently has almost 800K subscribers. And I'd expect RWC to be way more popular than cricket.

            It will be a pity if the main result of this is a heap less people watching cricket.

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            @Chris-B yeah it seems Sky have managed to retain the Rugby rights so Cricket will probably lose all the watchers who are paying for Sky mainly due to the Rugby.

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              If I read it right, the first game of every series will be free to air. That's pretty cool.

              This also allows promotion of the sport - half price if you are a registered player, that type of thing. Let's see where it goes

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              • nzzpN nzzp

                If I read it right, the first game of every series will be free to air. That's pretty cool.

                This also allows promotion of the sport - half price if you are a registered player, that type of thing. Let's see where it goes

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                @nzzp said in Spark Sport:

                If I read it right, the first game of every series will be free to air. That's pretty cool.

                Only the T20 games.

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                  Yes, first game of every T20 series (don't think it is test and ODI's) will be on TVNZ as well as two Super Smash games per week.

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                  • SnowyS Snowy

                    @shark said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                    I've voted with my wallet

                    I voted with my wallet too. I'm a rugby fan, a RWC comes around every 4 years, I'm going to watch it and not cut off my nose to spite my face.

                    Spark weren't stupid they targeted RWC because they knew they would get a decent take up. I'm pretty sure they had a business plan to keep getting content even if they had a low turnout for RWC. So you not buying it probably hasn't had a huge effect. Enjoying the tournament?

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                    @Snowy said in Spark Sport:

                    @shark said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                    I've voted with my wallet

                    I voted with my wallet too. I'm a rugby fan, a RWC comes around every 4 years, I'm going to watch it and not cut off my nose to spite my face.

                    Spark weren't stupid they targeted RWC because they knew they would get a decent take up. I'm pretty sure they had a business plan to keep getting content even if they had a low turnout for RWC. So you not buying it probably hasn't had a huge effect. Enjoying the tournament?

                    If enough people hadn't bought it, there'd have been more of an effect and perhaps Spark wouldn't have taken a shot at more core sport. That's partly why I didn't get the package, because of course if it was a successful return they'd forge on.

                    I had a mate call me after the cricket announcement to bemoan it. I couldn't symoathise with him because he'd bought the RWC package. He now regrets it.

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                    • sharkS shark

                      @Snowy said in Spark Sport:

                      @shark said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                      I've voted with my wallet

                      I voted with my wallet too. I'm a rugby fan, a RWC comes around every 4 years, I'm going to watch it and not cut off my nose to spite my face.

                      Spark weren't stupid they targeted RWC because they knew they would get a decent take up. I'm pretty sure they had a business plan to keep getting content even if they had a low turnout for RWC. So you not buying it probably hasn't had a huge effect. Enjoying the tournament?

                      If enough people hadn't bought it, there'd have been more of an effect and perhaps Spark wouldn't have taken a shot at more core sport. That's partly why I didn't get the package, because of course if it was a successful return they'd forge on.

                      I had a mate call me after the cricket announcement to bemoan it. I couldn't symoathise with him because he'd bought the RWC package. He now regrets it.

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                      @shark I agree with the moral stance sadly this was coming coming regardless, maybe a bit sooner than we hoped. Other big international players wanted rugby too. At least I get to watch the cup.

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                        I can't see the thread, about winning RWC boroadcaster, but I'll chuck it here. Useles fkn Spark Sport has only a handful of RWC matches still available. The first 3 round robinn matches are gone. How shit is that? Rugbypass has matches going back a year, and Spark have already deleted/removed the early pool games. Tough shit if you want to see any of the ABs pool games. I was keen to watch the Bok game again but nope.

                        caaaaaaarnts

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                        • M Machpants

                          I can't see the thread, about winning RWC boroadcaster, but I'll chuck it here. Useles fkn Spark Sport has only a handful of RWC matches still available. The first 3 round robinn matches are gone. How shit is that? Rugbypass has matches going back a year, and Spark have already deleted/removed the early pool games. Tough shit if you want to see any of the ABs pool games. I was keen to watch the Bok game again but nope.

                          caaaaaaarnts

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                          @Machpants World Rugby’s digital rights only allow matches to remain available on demand for 30 days, hence why the earlier matches have dropped off the site

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                            I can't see the thread, about winning RWC boroadcaster, but I'll chuck it here. Useles fkn Spark Sport has only a handful of RWC matches still available. The first 3 round robinn matches are gone. How shit is that? Rugbypass has matches going back a year, and Spark have already deleted/removed the early pool games. Tough shit if you want to see any of the ABs pool games. I was keen to watch the Bok game again but nope.

                            caaaaaaarnts

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                            @Machpants thankfully I saved them for prosperity.

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                              I can't see the thread, about winning RWC boroadcaster, but I'll chuck it here. Useles fkn Spark Sport has only a handful of RWC matches still available. The first 3 round robinn matches are gone. How shit is that? Rugbypass has matches going back a year, and Spark have already deleted/removed the early pool games. Tough shit if you want to see any of the ABs pool games. I was keen to watch the Bok game again but nope.

                              caaaaaaarnts

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                              @Machpants rumour has it acrossthetasman.com is worth a look

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                              • antipodeanA antipodean

                                @Machpants thankfully I saved them for prosperity.

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                                @antipodean said in Spark Sport:

                                @Machpants thankfully I saved them for prosperity.

                                You going to on-sell them?

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                                • boobooB booboo

                                  @antipodean said in Spark Sport:

                                  @Machpants thankfully I saved them for prosperity.

                                  You going to on-sell them?

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                                  @booboo said in Spark Sport:

                                  @antipodean said in Spark Sport:

                                  @Machpants thankfully I saved them for prosperity.

                                  You going to on-sell them?

                                  @Machpants might be willing to buy?

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                                  • boobooB booboo

                                    @antipodean said in Spark Sport:

                                    @Machpants thankfully I saved them for prosperity.

                                    You going to on-sell them?

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                                    @booboo said in Spark Sport:

                                    @antipodean said in Spark Sport:

                                    @Machpants thankfully I saved them for prosperity.

                                    You going to on-sell them?

                                    See post above yours.

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                                      One of the side effects of having sports across different networks in a small country.

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/117348198/new-zealands-non-cheerleader-ian-smith-should-be-enjoyed-while-hes-still-around

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                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        One of the side effects of having sports across different networks in a small country.

                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/117348198/new-zealands-non-cheerleader-ian-smith-should-be-enjoyed-while-hes-still-around

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                                        @Bovidae said in Spark Sport:

                                        One of the side effects of having sports across different networks in a small country.

                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/117348198/new-zealands-non-cheerleader-ian-smith-should-be-enjoyed-while-hes-still-around

                                        Also consider that Sky has given Ian Jones two decades worth of work.

                                        Amazing.

                                        Not wanting to be mean, but .....

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          One of the side effects of having sports across different networks in a small country.

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/opinion/117348198/new-zealands-non-cheerleader-ian-smith-should-be-enjoyed-while-hes-still-around

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                                          @Bovidae "Ian Smith should be enjoyed while he's still around ….few carry the weight of Smith's".

                                          Ignoring the fact that the article is actually wrong i.e. Smith's perfectly capable of cheerleading what's truly remarkable is the guy's longevity given he's been advised to change his lifestyle to extend his innings but can't help gourmandising on the Sky expense account.

                                          They say TV makes you look fatter. Having seen Smithy in the flesh only a few months ago he's obviously the exception to the rule.

                                          The headline is accurate but sadly for all the wrong reasons.

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