RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2)
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@taniwharugby my only thought was BFA over Reece. But i wouldn't do it. I think we'll need the spark that boy seems to provide every game.
BFA or Pimply Giraffe on the bench?
SBW or Crotty at 12?
Patty T's power or Red Barrett's reliability?
@mariner4life yep to all those
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dunno if mentioned, but just heard the Barretts grandfather died yesterday...was due to fly out to Japan this week.
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@The-Irishman said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Hansen knows this Irish team very well now.
Last year in Dublin New Zealand were at the end of a hard season and had a tough game against the English.
They will be fresh and well prep'd. I can see them sucking the Irish in the centre of the park, forcing them to commit players to the ruck, then hitting them out wide. I hope I'm wrong, obviously, but I can see a pretty big scoreline for the AB's.
You may be new to the Fern but you've obviously played this underdog game before, and I won't let this continue. Ireland are odds on favourites, theirs to lose. Would be very surprised if the ABs got up.
@No-Quarter said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@The-Irishman said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Hansen knows this Irish team very well now.
Last year in Dublin New Zealand were at the end of a hard season and had a tough game against the English.
They will be fresh and well prep'd. I can see them sucking the Irish in the centre of the park, forcing them to commit players to the ruck, then hitting them out wide. I hope I'm wrong, obviously, but I can see a pretty big scoreline for the AB's.
You may be new to the Fern but you've obviously played this underdog game before, and I won't let this continue. Ireland are odds on favourites, theirs to lose. Would be very surprised if the ABs got up.
Err
New Zealand 1/5 on
Ireland 5/1Just sayin like...
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@No-Quarter said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@The-Irishman said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Hansen knows this Irish team very well now.
Last year in Dublin New Zealand were at the end of a hard season and had a tough game against the English.
They will be fresh and well prep'd. I can see them sucking the Irish in the centre of the park, forcing them to commit players to the ruck, then hitting them out wide. I hope I'm wrong, obviously, but I can see a pretty big scoreline for the AB's.
You may be new to the Fern but you've obviously played this underdog game before, and I won't let this continue. Ireland are odds on favourites, theirs to lose. Would be very surprised if the ABs got up.
Err
New Zealand 1/5 on
Ireland 5/1Just sayin like...
@Derm-McCrum said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@No-Quarter said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@The-Irishman said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Hansen knows this Irish team very well now.
Last year in Dublin New Zealand were at the end of a hard season and had a tough game against the English.
They will be fresh and well prep'd. I can see them sucking the Irish in the centre of the park, forcing them to commit players to the ruck, then hitting them out wide. I hope I'm wrong, obviously, but I can see a pretty big scoreline for the AB's.
You may be new to the Fern but you've obviously played this underdog game before, and I won't let this continue. Ireland are odds on favourites, theirs to lose. Would be very surprised if the ABs got up.
Err
New Zealand 1/5 on
Ireland 5/1Just sayin like...
pfffft, sounds like another Paddy Power promotion to merk people.
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@Derm-McCrum said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Nothing to worry about. Ireland are the most predictable team in the tournament.
Sexton kicks ball. Toner alternative catches. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Loop. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Ruck. Ruck. Ruck. Ruck. Ruck.
Try. Restart.
Sometimes there’s a kick in there.
Should be a doddle.
i was honestly about to post almost exactly this!
But, just like one D Pocock, it may be one trick, but they are fucking good at it. And, that exact game plan is the best way to beat us. They just need to do it better than they have done all year. And i for one think they will be all over it this week, it's a huge game for Irish rugby.
And, to that point, do we do a Cheika, ignore their tactics, and just pick the side to play our way the best? Or do we pick back 3 guys who can take high balls?
Knockout rugby is an absolute fluffybunny, and therefore my anxiety about this game will build during the week, despite my earlier blase ambivalence
@mariner4life said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Derm-McCrum said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Nothing to worry about. Ireland are the most predictable team in the tournament.
Sexton kicks ball. Toner alternative catches. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Loop. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Ruck. Ruck. Ruck. Ruck. Ruck.
Try. Restart.
Sometimes there’s a kick in there.
Should be a doddle.
i was honestly about to post almost exactly this!
But, just like one D Pocock, it may be one trick, but they are fucking good at it. And, that exact game plan is the best way to beat us. They just need to do it better than they have done all year. And i for one think they will be all over it this week, it's a huge game for Irish rugby.
And, to that point, do we do a Cheika, ignore their tactics, and just pick the side to play our way the best? Or do we pick back 3 guys who can take high balls?
Knockout rugby is an absolute fluffybunny, and therefore my anxiety about this game will build during the week, despite my earlier blase ambivalence
The other challenge when you're faced with making endless tackles like this, is the current card situation - its increasingly hard to make dominant tackles without making the odd error of timing or placement, especially if the Irish are cynical in their attack (not saying they would be) i.e. changing angle/body height late to initiate higher contact.
I'm fucking nervous, and I think the odds are absurd. I just hope I'm worrying over nothing!
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Oh shit that's poor timing re their grandfather, how are they going to get to the funeral? They may fly back for a day?
@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Oh shit that's poor timing re their grandfather, how are they going to get to the funeral? They may fly back for a day?
Will be interesting what they do. I imagine he was as rugby mad as the rest of the family so his wishes would probably be for the boys to stay and do it for him.
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@mariner4life said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Derm-McCrum said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Nothing to worry about. Ireland are the most predictable team in the tournament.
Sexton kicks ball. Toner alternative catches. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Loop. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Ruck. Ruck. Ruck. Ruck. Ruck.
Try. Restart.
Sometimes there’s a kick in there.
Should be a doddle.
i was honestly about to post almost exactly this!
But, just like one D Pocock, it may be one trick, but they are fucking good at it. And, that exact game plan is the best way to beat us. They just need to do it better than they have done all year. And i for one think they will be all over it this week, it's a huge game for Irish rugby.
And, to that point, do we do a Cheika, ignore their tactics, and just pick the side to play our way the best? Or do we pick back 3 guys who can take high balls?
Knockout rugby is an absolute fluffybunny, and therefore my anxiety about this game will build during the week, despite my earlier blase ambivalence
The other challenge when you're faced with making endless tackles like this, is the current card situation - its increasingly hard to make dominant tackles without making the odd error of timing or placement, especially if the Irish are cynical in their attack (not saying they would be) i.e. changing angle/body height late to initiate higher contact.
I'm fucking nervous, and I think the odds are absurd. I just hope I'm worrying over nothing!
@voodoo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@mariner4life said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Derm-McCrum said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Nothing to worry about. Ireland are the most predictable team in the tournament.
Sexton kicks ball. Toner alternative catches. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Loop. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Tackle. Ruck. Pass. Ruck. Ruck. Ruck. Ruck. Ruck.
Try. Restart.
Sometimes there’s a kick in there.
Should be a doddle.
i was honestly about to post almost exactly this!
But, just like one D Pocock, it may be one trick, but they are fucking good at it. And, that exact game plan is the best way to beat us. They just need to do it better than they have done all year. And i for one think they will be all over it this week, it's a huge game for Irish rugby.
And, to that point, do we do a Cheika, ignore their tactics, and just pick the side to play our way the best? Or do we pick back 3 guys who can take high balls?
Knockout rugby is an absolute fluffybunny, and therefore my anxiety about this game will build during the week, despite my earlier blase ambivalence
The other challenge when you're faced with making endless tackles like this, is the current card situation - its increasingly hard to make dominant tackles without making the odd error of timing or placement, especially if the Irish are cynical in their attack (not saying they would be) i.e. changing angle/body height late to initiate higher contact.
I'm fucking nervous, and I think the odds are absurd. I just hope I'm worrying over nothing!
unless you are a certain Gallic nation of sneaky untrustworthy fuckers, you should give away more penalties if you are constantly defending.
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Oh shit that's poor timing re their grandfather, how are they going to get to the funeral? They may fly back for a day?
@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Oh shit that's poor timing re their grandfather, how are they going to get to the funeral? They may fly back for a day?
I certainly hope that's not the plan.
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@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Oh shit that's poor timing re their grandfather, how are they going to get to the funeral? They may fly back for a day?
I certainly hope that's not the plan.
@Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Oh shit that's poor timing re their grandfather, how are they going to get to the funeral? They may fly back for a day?
I certainly hope that's not the plan.
They won't come back. What better way to honour the man's memory than win the game? I am sure he would have wanted it that way
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@Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Oh shit that's poor timing re their grandfather, how are they going to get to the funeral? They may fly back for a day?
I certainly hope that's not the plan.
They won't come back. What better way to honour the man's memory than win the game? I am sure he would have wanted it that way
@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Oh shit that's poor timing re their grandfather, how are they going to get to the funeral? They may fly back for a day?
I certainly hope that's not the plan.
They won't come back. What better way to honour the man's memory than win the game? I am sure he would have wanted it that way
That last line made me laugh. (Unless of course you actually knew him personally)
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@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Oh shit that's poor timing re their grandfather, how are they going to get to the funeral? They may fly back for a day?
I certainly hope that's not the plan.
@Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Oh shit that's poor timing re their grandfather, how are they going to get to the funeral? They may fly back for a day?
I certainly hope that's not the plan.
I'm with Spock on this one
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@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Oh shit that's poor timing re their grandfather, how are they going to get to the funeral? They may fly back for a day?
I certainly hope that's not the plan.
They won't come back. What better way to honour the man's memory than win the game? I am sure he would have wanted it that way
That last line made me laugh. (Unless of course you actually knew him personally)
@Hooroo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Oh shit that's poor timing re their grandfather, how are they going to get to the funeral? They may fly back for a day?
I certainly hope that's not the plan.
They won't come back. What better way to honour the man's memory than win the game? I am sure he would have wanted it that way
That last line made me laugh. (Unless of course you actually knew him personally)
No. But his son was a rugby head and his three grandsons are too. I suspect he might have liked rugby a bit. And he's farming stock. Not prone to histrionics
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@sparky said in RWC: (QF2) All Blacks v "To Be Advised":
It's going to Ireland. Pumped as hell already and it's only Sunday.
WTF are we going to talk about all week...
@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@The-Irishman said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Well lads....looks like it's us leprachauns against you sheep shaggers hehe!
Ahem, Australia has more sheep than us.....
Not as attractive tho...
...apparently
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@Hooroo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@chimoaus said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Oh shit that's poor timing re their grandfather, how are they going to get to the funeral? They may fly back for a day?
I certainly hope that's not the plan.
They won't come back. What better way to honour the man's memory than win the game? I am sure he would have wanted it that way
That last line made me laugh. (Unless of course you actually knew him personally)
No. But his son was a rugby head and his three grandsons are too. I suspect he might have liked rugby a bit. And he's farming stock. Not prone to histrionics
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@canefan arent 4 of the 5 boys rugby heads? Assume the other brother played too, but got swallowed up in the shadows.
@taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@canefan arent 4 of the 5 boys rugby heads? Assume the other brother played too, but got swallowed up in the shadows.
Probably purposefully stopped him playing, don't want the secret NZ Rugby DNA gene editing program to come under suspicion.
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@kiwiinmelb said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@akan004 said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Discipline is crucial. We can't be giving away the silly penalties that we gave away in Dublin.
Whitelock and Brodie were the two biggest offenders that night. They both need huge games against Ryan and Henderson who are both world class.Long periods defending concerns me most, that is where we are most likely to concede penalties and or cards , and not rocket science to think this what Ireland will try to do .... again
That's always the concern when playing Ireland. They average something like 200 rucks a game which often leads to the defending team infringing. Not too dissimilar to the Brumbies in the late 90s.
How the ruck is refereed will be important. Refs at this WC are allowing the attacking teams to not release the ball and pilferring stats have been way down as a result. This will obviously favour Ireland's game plan which is based on ball retention.
Cards also will be a factor. Since we will probably be making a lot more tackles than them, it's crucial that we don't give the ref a reason to send someone to the bin.
@akan004 said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@kiwiinmelb said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
@akan004 said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
Discipline is crucial. We can't be giving away the silly penalties that we gave away in Dublin.
Whitelock and Brodie were the two biggest offenders that night. They both need huge games against Ryan and Henderson who are both world class.Long periods defending concerns me most, that is where we are most likely to concede penalties and or cards , and not rocket science to think this what Ireland will try to do .... again
That's always the concern when playing Ireland. They average something like 200 rucks a game which often leads to the defending team infringing. Not too dissimilar to the Brumbies in the late 90s.
How the ruck is refereed will be important. Refs at this WC are allowing the attacking teams to not release the ball and pilferring stats have been way down as a result. This will obviously favour Ireland's game plan which is based on ball retention.
Cards also will be a factor. Since we will probably be making a lot more tackles than them, it's crucial that we don't give the ref a reason to send someone to the bin.
That's interesting - they've been really relaxed on attacking players coming in from the side and sealing off too, so that probably has a fair bit to do with it. Also interesting that this will lead to longer periods of defending which will lead to fatigued players making mistakes in the tackle...
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TAB odds are clearcut for all the QFs.
https://www.tab.co.nz/sports/quick-multi
If you believe these; South Africa, New Zealand, England and Wales will all win comfortably.
I'd bet against that happening - though, I reckon the Jaapies will be comfortably too good for Japan.
@Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
TAB odds are clearcut for all the QFs.
https://www.tab.co.nz/sports/quick-multi
If you believe these; South Africa, New Zealand, England and Wales will all win comfortably.
I'd bet against that happening - though, I reckon the Jaapies will be comfortably too good for Japan.
4.39 is worth a punt on Ireland
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@Chris-B said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):
TAB odds are clearcut for all the QFs.
https://www.tab.co.nz/sports/quick-multi
If you believe these; South Africa, New Zealand, England and Wales will all win comfortably.
I'd bet against that happening - though, I reckon the Jaapies will be comfortably too good for Japan.
4.39 is worth a punt on Ireland
@MajorRage Yeah - even though I think we're favourites, I don't think we're that much favourites.
You only need to start thinking about our obituary for Sunday and, "With the benefit of hindsight....". We haven't been hugely convincing this year - very good at times, shaky at others.
I guess everyone is counting that we're going to do the same as 2015 and suddenly hit peak and irresistible form. Hope Steve's had that powder carefully locked in his suitcase and under close watch. We don't want to open the bag in Tokyo and discover the typhoon somehow seeped in!
