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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    Tonga hooker Paula Ngauamo suspended for seven weeks

    The disciplinary hearing in relation to the citing of Tonga hooker Paula Ngauamo for an act of foul play contrary to Law 9.12 (kicking) in their Rugby World Cup 2019 Pool C match against USA took place in Tokyo on 15 October.
    
    The independent Judicial Committee was chaired by Alan Hudson (Canada) joined by former international player Stefan Terblanche (South Africa) and former referee Valeriu Toma (Romania).
    
    The player admitted that he had kicked his opponent in the face and accepted this was at least mid-range offending as he had made contact with his opponent’s head.
    
    The committee agreed and applied World Rugby’s mandatory minimum mid-range entry point, which was introduced in 2017 to protect player welfare, deter high contact and prevent head injuries. This resulted in a starting point of an eight-week suspension.
    
    Taking into account the mitigating factors that are considered in relation to sanction, including the player’s early admission and disciplinary record, the committee reduced the eight-week entry point by one week, resulting in a sanction of seven weeks.
    
    Ngauamo is returning to Tonga today prior to resuming club duty with Agen in the Top 14. The player will be suspended for his next seven weeks of club rugby on his return to France.
    

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    Only 1 week deduction for the player’s early admission and disciplinary record. Not 50%, I wonder why? 🤔 (the full decision hasn't been published, yet).

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    @Stargazer said in Judiciary Happenings:

    Only 1 week deduction for the player’s early admission and disciplinary record. Not 50%, I wonder why? 🤔 (the full decision hasn't been published, yet).

    You can only assume he has previous form.

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      @Stargazer @Bovidae and he kicked a bloke in the face. How that is due any mitigation is beyond me

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        @mooshld said in Judiciary Happenings:

        There is one thing I can't quite grasp

        Well you bloody better otherwise its a shoulder charge.

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        • NTAN NTA

          @Stargazer @Bovidae and he kicked a bloke in the face. How that is due any mitigation is beyond me

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          @NTA said in Judiciary Happenings:

          @Stargazer @Bovidae and he kicked a bloke in the face. How that is due any mitigation is beyond me

          I've tried finding a clip of it; maybe it was completely accidental? I'm not going to form an opinion without knowing the facts. Still waiting for the full decision to become available.

          I think if it had been deliberate, they would have started at a top-end entry-point of 12 weeks (or higher), not a mid-range entry point of 6 weeks.

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          • StargazerS Stargazer

            Tonga hooker Paula Ngauamo suspended for seven weeks

            The disciplinary hearing in relation to the citing of Tonga hooker Paula Ngauamo for an act of foul play contrary to Law 9.12 (kicking) in their Rugby World Cup 2019 Pool C match against USA took place in Tokyo on 15 October.
            
            The independent Judicial Committee was chaired by Alan Hudson (Canada) joined by former international player Stefan Terblanche (South Africa) and former referee Valeriu Toma (Romania).
            
            The player admitted that he had kicked his opponent in the face and accepted this was at least mid-range offending as he had made contact with his opponent’s head.
            
            The committee agreed and applied World Rugby’s mandatory minimum mid-range entry point, which was introduced in 2017 to protect player welfare, deter high contact and prevent head injuries. This resulted in a starting point of an eight-week suspension.
            
            Taking into account the mitigating factors that are considered in relation to sanction, including the player’s early admission and disciplinary record, the committee reduced the eight-week entry point by one week, resulting in a sanction of seven weeks.
            
            Ngauamo is returning to Tonga today prior to resuming club duty with Agen in the Top 14. The player will be suspended for his next seven weeks of club rugby on his return to France.
            

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            Only 1 week deduction for the player’s early admission and disciplinary record. Not 50%, I wonder why? 🤔 (the full decision hasn't been published, yet).

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            #153

            @Stargazer said in Judiciary Happenings:

            Tonga hooker Paula Ngauamo suspended for seven weeks

            The disciplinary hearing in relation to the citing of Tonga hooker Paula Ngauamo for an act of foul play contrary to Law 9.12 (kicking) in their Rugby World Cup 2019 Pool C match against USA took place in Tokyo on 15 October.
            
            The independent Judicial Committee was chaired by Alan Hudson (Canada) joined by former international player Stefan Terblanche (South Africa) and former referee Valeriu Toma (Romania).
            
            The player admitted that he had kicked his opponent in the face and accepted this was at least mid-range offending as he had made contact with his opponent’s head.
            
            The committee agreed and applied World Rugby’s mandatory minimum mid-range entry point, which was introduced in 2017 to protect player welfare, deter high contact and prevent head injuries. This resulted in a starting point of an eight-week suspension.
            
            Taking into account the mitigating factors that are considered in relation to sanction, including the player’s early admission and disciplinary record, the committee reduced the eight-week entry point by one week, resulting in a sanction of seven weeks.
            
            Ngauamo is returning to Tonga today prior to resuming club duty with Agen in the Top 14. The player will be suspended for his next seven weeks of club rugby on his return to France.
            

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            Only 1 week deduction for the player’s early admission and disciplinary record. Not 50%, I wonder why? 🤔 (the full decision hasn't been published, yet).

            Previous form and he didn;t turn up to the court session, or whatever it's called. Dipshit

            https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116608740/tonga-hooker-paula-ngauamo-banned-for-seven-weeks-for-head-kick&sa=D&source=hangouts&ust=1571211058367000&usg=AFQjCNHbY9g9ATMRsgIJCtrm-f7Hq7D-rQ

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            • StargazerS Stargazer

              @NTA said in Judiciary Happenings:

              @Stargazer @Bovidae and he kicked a bloke in the face. How that is due any mitigation is beyond me

              I've tried finding a clip of it; maybe it was completely accidental? I'm not going to form an opinion without knowing the facts. Still waiting for the full decision to become available.

              I think if it had been deliberate, they would have started at a top-end entry-point of 12 weeks (or higher), not a mid-range entry point of 6 weeks.

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              @Stargazer said in Judiciary Happenings:

              I'm not going to form an opinion without knowing the facts.

              Then you have no place around here pal

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              • voodooV voodoo

                @Stargazer said in Judiciary Happenings:

                I'm not going to form an opinion without knowing the facts.

                Then you have no place around here pal

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                @voodoo said in Judiciary Happenings:

                @Stargazer said in Judiciary Happenings:

                I'm not going to form an opinion without knowing the facts.

                Then you have no place around here pal

                Nerds out!!!

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                • voodooV voodoo

                  @Stargazer said in Judiciary Happenings:

                  I'm not going to form an opinion without knowing the facts.

                  Then you have no place around here pal

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                  @voodoo alt text

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                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                    @voodoo alt text

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                    @Stargazer : :face_with_stuck-out_tongue:

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                      that doesn't look like an official image, I'll wait for confirmation

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                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        that doesn't look like an official image, I'll wait for confirmation

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                        @mariner4life said in Judiciary Happenings:

                        that doesn't look like an official image, I'll wait for confirmation

                        Fucking hell Skeen haven't you caused enough trouble?

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                        • M Machpants

                          @Stargazer said in Judiciary Happenings:

                          Tonga hooker Paula Ngauamo suspended for seven weeks

                          The disciplinary hearing in relation to the citing of Tonga hooker Paula Ngauamo for an act of foul play contrary to Law 9.12 (kicking) in their Rugby World Cup 2019 Pool C match against USA took place in Tokyo on 15 October.
                          
                          The independent Judicial Committee was chaired by Alan Hudson (Canada) joined by former international player Stefan Terblanche (South Africa) and former referee Valeriu Toma (Romania).
                          
                          The player admitted that he had kicked his opponent in the face and accepted this was at least mid-range offending as he had made contact with his opponent’s head.
                          
                          The committee agreed and applied World Rugby’s mandatory minimum mid-range entry point, which was introduced in 2017 to protect player welfare, deter high contact and prevent head injuries. This resulted in a starting point of an eight-week suspension.
                          
                          Taking into account the mitigating factors that are considered in relation to sanction, including the player’s early admission and disciplinary record, the committee reduced the eight-week entry point by one week, resulting in a sanction of seven weeks.
                          
                          Ngauamo is returning to Tonga today prior to resuming club duty with Agen in the Top 14. The player will be suspended for his next seven weeks of club rugby on his return to France.
                          

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                          Only 1 week deduction for the player’s early admission and disciplinary record. Not 50%, I wonder why? 🤔 (the full decision hasn't been published, yet).

                          Previous form and he didn;t turn up to the court session, or whatever it's called. Dipshit

                          https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116608740/tonga-hooker-paula-ngauamo-banned-for-seven-weeks-for-head-kick&sa=D&source=hangouts&ust=1571211058367000&usg=AFQjCNHbY9g9ATMRsgIJCtrm-f7Hq7D-rQ

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                          @Machpants Yep, stupid. He could have asked for a different date & time for the disciplinary hearing, if the initial appointment didn't suit him because of his travel. The cited Uruguayan did that, too. His French club won't be happy.

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                          • NTAN NTA

                            @mariner4life said in Judiciary Happenings:

                            that doesn't look like an official image, I'll wait for confirmation

                            Fucking hell Skeen haven't you caused enough trouble?

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                            @NTA said in Judiciary Happenings:

                            @mariner4life said in Judiciary Happenings:

                            that doesn't look like an official image, I'll wait for confirmation

                            Fucking hell Skeen haven't you caused enough trouble?

                            I'm just going to show you another angle

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                              Some high quality piss taking today on several threads.

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                              • SnowyS Snowy

                                Some high quality piss taking today on several threads.

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                                @Snowy said in Judiciary Happenings:

                                Some high quality piss taking today on several threads.

                                When we're bored, this happens...

                                🤔

                                Or the Politics thread gives the mods a migraine...

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                                • NTAN NTA

                                  @Snowy said in Judiciary Happenings:

                                  Some high quality piss taking today on several threads.

                                  When we're bored, this happens...

                                  🤔

                                  Or the Politics thread gives the mods a migraine...

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                                  ACT Crusader
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                                  @NTA said in Judiciary Happenings:

                                  @Snowy said in Judiciary Happenings:

                                  Some high quality piss taking today on several threads.

                                  When we're bored, this happens...

                                  🤔

                                  Or the Politics thread gives the mods a migraine...

                                  There’s a politics thread?

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                                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                    @NTA said in Judiciary Happenings:

                                    @Snowy said in Judiciary Happenings:

                                    Some high quality piss taking today on several threads.

                                    When we're bored, this happens...

                                    🤔

                                    Or the Politics thread gives the mods a migraine...

                                    There’s a politics thread?

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                                    NTA
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                                    @ACT-Crusader said in Judiciary Happenings:

                                    @NTA said in Judiciary Happenings:

                                    @Snowy said in Judiciary Happenings:

                                    Some high quality piss taking today on several threads.

                                    When we're bored, this happens...

                                    🤔

                                    Or the Politics thread gives the mods a migraine...

                                    There’s a politics thread?

                                    Subforum, maybe. You might have set it to "Ignore" as it was generally a bunch of old men getting shouty about bullshit.

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                                    • NTAN NTA

                                      @ACT-Crusader said in Judiciary Happenings:

                                      @NTA said in Judiciary Happenings:

                                      @Snowy said in Judiciary Happenings:

                                      Some high quality piss taking today on several threads.

                                      When we're bored, this happens...

                                      🤔

                                      Or the Politics thread gives the mods a migraine...

                                      There’s a politics thread?

                                      Subforum, maybe. You might have set it to "Ignore" as it was generally a bunch of old men getting shouty about bullshit.

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                                      @NTA said in Judiciary Happenings:

                                      it was generally a bunch of old men getting shouty about bullshit.

                                      And some Polish chicks apparently.

                                      Out of interest how would you differentiate that from the rest of The Fern forums?

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                                      • SnowyS Snowy

                                        @NTA said in Judiciary Happenings:

                                        it was generally a bunch of old men getting shouty about bullshit.

                                        And some Polish chicks apparently.

                                        Out of interest how would you differentiate that from the rest of The Fern forums?

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                                        Nepia
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                                        #167

                                        @Snowy said in Judiciary Happenings:

                                        @NTA said in Judiciary Happenings:

                                        it was generally a bunch of old men getting shouty about bullshit.

                                        And some Polish chicks apparently.

                                        Out of interest how would you differentiate that from the rest of The Fern forums?

                                        Wait what? Do tell.

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                                        • NepiaN Nepia

                                          @Snowy said in Judiciary Happenings:

                                          @NTA said in Judiciary Happenings:

                                          it was generally a bunch of old men getting shouty about bullshit.

                                          And some Polish chicks apparently.

                                          Out of interest how would you differentiate that from the rest of The Fern forums?

                                          Wait what? Do tell.

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                                          @Nepia Was in another thread about the demographics of this place. There were a surprising number of posts by women (or posters who identify as such) and Poland was also quite high in the ratings of places that people post from. So in good Fern fashion I put 2 and 2 together and got 81 - most people that post here are Polish chicks.

                                          I'm actually Lena from Krakow which might explain it.

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