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  • TimT Tim

    @dogmeat Why don't you drink 4% session ales? 8 Wired's Semiconductor is much better than anything Panhead produces.

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    @Tim It's a very old school mainsteam bar - Speights, Macs, Lion :face_vomiting:

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    • dogmeatD dogmeat

      @Tim It's a very old school mainsteam bar - Speights, Macs, Lion :face_vomiting:

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      @dogmeat said in Plans for Saturday:

      @Tim It's a very old school mainsteam bar - Speights, Macs, Lion :face_vomiting:

      Your post is playing on my mind more than it should.

      I think I'm more like your brother (but not at that volume and rate) and you're more like my brothers (again less volume and rate too)

      When they have a beer they just tell me straight up that they won't be matching me one for one as they don't want to be a cripple the next day and I never have a problem with that.

      Can't you do that? Just say you will go at your own pace!

      I WANT YOU TO ENJOY THE RUGBY GODDAMMIT!! 🙂 ha ha

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      • HoorooH Hooroo

        @dogmeat said in Plans for Saturday:

        @Tim It's a very old school mainsteam bar - Speights, Macs, Lion :face_vomiting:

        Your post is playing on my mind more than it should.

        I think I'm more like your brother (but not at that volume and rate) and you're more like my brothers (again less volume and rate too)

        When they have a beer they just tell me straight up that they won't be matching me one for one as they don't want to be a cripple the next day and I never have a problem with that.

        Can't you do that? Just say you will go at your own pace!

        I WANT YOU TO ENJOY THE RUGBY GODDAMMIT!! 🙂 ha ha

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        @Hooroo nah fuck him. Tough it out fluffybunny

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        • HoorooH Hooroo

          @dogmeat said in Plans for Saturday:

          @Tim It's a very old school mainsteam bar - Speights, Macs, Lion :face_vomiting:

          Your post is playing on my mind more than it should.

          I think I'm more like your brother (but not at that volume and rate) and you're more like my brothers (again less volume and rate too)

          When they have a beer they just tell me straight up that they won't be matching me one for one as they don't want to be a cripple the next day and I never have a problem with that.

          Can't you do that? Just say you will go at your own pace!

          I WANT YOU TO ENJOY THE RUGBY GODDAMMIT!! 🙂 ha ha

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          @Hooroo mate thanks for your sympathy.

          Your's is a very good plan and one I will likely go out to implement but then :clinking_beer_mugs: :face_savouring_delicious_food:

          TBH I do let him have 3 to my two as the night draws on.

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            #66

            Yeah well pretty much a standard spring saturday so...

            • net session with the lad in the morning
            • home for a coffee and finish off the days form before loading a handful of long winded multi bets
            • arvo at home pretending to do odd jobs around the house, lawns etc while really knocking back beers and punting on anything with 4 legs and a long nose running around caulfield or randwick and if I'm struggling that morphetville or eagle farm might get some attention too.
            • 530/6pm usually end with a couple of boys from next door turning up to get their kids home for dinner but end up having a beer or three while I spout about the sport of kings and how good spring racing is. Make them stay for the last leg of a multi.
            • potentially angry bbq around 630pm following my lack of belief of a redzel three-peat
            • settle in to a bit of england vs aus between blowing the last of my cash on the wizard of the west at ascot
            • AB's game - probably on the couch with me and my nerves being comforted by abusive texts from aus mates and/or UK family (depending on outcome of previous game)

            Yeah same old saturday really

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            • JKJ JK

              Yeah well pretty much a standard spring saturday so...

              • net session with the lad in the morning
              • home for a coffee and finish off the days form before loading a handful of long winded multi bets
              • arvo at home pretending to do odd jobs around the house, lawns etc while really knocking back beers and punting on anything with 4 legs and a long nose running around caulfield or randwick and if I'm struggling that morphetville or eagle farm might get some attention too.
              • 530/6pm usually end with a couple of boys from next door turning up to get their kids home for dinner but end up having a beer or three while I spout about the sport of kings and how good spring racing is. Make them stay for the last leg of a multi.
              • potentially angry bbq around 630pm following my lack of belief of a redzel three-peat
              • settle in to a bit of england vs aus between blowing the last of my cash on the wizard of the west at ascot
              • AB's game - probably on the couch with me and my nerves being comforted by abusive texts from aus mates and/or UK family (depending on outcome of previous game)

              Yeah same old saturday really

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              @JK said in Plans for Saturday:

              Yeah well pretty much a standard spring saturday so...

              • net session with the lad in the morning
              • home for a coffee and finish off the days form before loading a handful of long winded multi bets
              • arvo at home pretending to do odd jobs around the house, lawns etc while really knocking back beers and punting on anything with 4 legs and a long nose running around caulfield or randwick and if I'm struggling that morphetville or eagle farm might get some attention too.
              • 530/6pm usually end with a couple of boys from next door turning up to get their kids home for dinner but end up having a beer or three while I spout about the sport of kings and how good spring racing is. Make them stay for the last leg of a multi.
              • potentially angry bbq around 630pm following my lack of belief of a redzel three-peat
              • settle in to a bit of england vs aus between blowing the last of my cash on the wizard of the west at ascot
              • AB's game - probably on the couch with me and my nerves being comforted by abusive texts from aus mates and/or UK family (depending on outcome of previous game)

              Yeah same old saturday really

              Do me a favour and help a brother out and flick me a few tips come Saturday as I won't have any time for form

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              • HoorooH Hooroo

                @JK said in Plans for Saturday:

                Yeah well pretty much a standard spring saturday so...

                • net session with the lad in the morning
                • home for a coffee and finish off the days form before loading a handful of long winded multi bets
                • arvo at home pretending to do odd jobs around the house, lawns etc while really knocking back beers and punting on anything with 4 legs and a long nose running around caulfield or randwick and if I'm struggling that morphetville or eagle farm might get some attention too.
                • 530/6pm usually end with a couple of boys from next door turning up to get their kids home for dinner but end up having a beer or three while I spout about the sport of kings and how good spring racing is. Make them stay for the last leg of a multi.
                • potentially angry bbq around 630pm following my lack of belief of a redzel three-peat
                • settle in to a bit of england vs aus between blowing the last of my cash on the wizard of the west at ascot
                • AB's game - probably on the couch with me and my nerves being comforted by abusive texts from aus mates and/or UK family (depending on outcome of previous game)

                Yeah same old saturday really

                Do me a favour and help a brother out and flick me a few tips come Saturday as I won't have any time for form

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                @Hooroo said in Plans for Saturday:

                @JK said in Plans for Saturday:

                Yeah well pretty much a standard spring saturday so...

                • net session with the lad in the morning
                • home for a coffee and finish off the days form before loading a handful of long winded multi bets
                • arvo at home pretending to do odd jobs around the house, lawns etc while really knocking back beers and punting on anything with 4 legs and a long nose running around caulfield or randwick and if I'm struggling that morphetville or eagle farm might get some attention too.
                • 530/6pm usually end with a couple of boys from next door turning up to get their kids home for dinner but end up having a beer or three while I spout about the sport of kings and how good spring racing is. Make them stay for the last leg of a multi.
                • potentially angry bbq around 630pm following my lack of belief of a redzel three-peat
                • settle in to a bit of england vs aus between blowing the last of my cash on the wizard of the west at ascot
                • AB's game - probably on the couch with me and my nerves being comforted by abusive texts from aus mates and/or UK family (depending on outcome of previous game)

                Yeah same old saturday really

                Do me a favour and help a brother out and flick me a few tips come Saturday as I won't have any time for form

                We've got a caulfield cup to fit in there too!

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                • JKJ JK

                  @Hooroo said in Plans for Saturday:

                  @JK said in Plans for Saturday:

                  Yeah well pretty much a standard spring saturday so...

                  • net session with the lad in the morning
                  • home for a coffee and finish off the days form before loading a handful of long winded multi bets
                  • arvo at home pretending to do odd jobs around the house, lawns etc while really knocking back beers and punting on anything with 4 legs and a long nose running around caulfield or randwick and if I'm struggling that morphetville or eagle farm might get some attention too.
                  • 530/6pm usually end with a couple of boys from next door turning up to get their kids home for dinner but end up having a beer or three while I spout about the sport of kings and how good spring racing is. Make them stay for the last leg of a multi.
                  • potentially angry bbq around 630pm following my lack of belief of a redzel three-peat
                  • settle in to a bit of england vs aus between blowing the last of my cash on the wizard of the west at ascot
                  • AB's game - probably on the couch with me and my nerves being comforted by abusive texts from aus mates and/or UK family (depending on outcome of previous game)

                  Yeah same old saturday really

                  Do me a favour and help a brother out and flick me a few tips come Saturday as I won't have any time for form

                  We've got a caulfield cup to fit in there too!

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                  #69

                  @JK said in Plans for Saturday:

                  @Hooroo said in Plans for Saturday:

                  @JK said in Plans for Saturday:

                  Yeah well pretty much a standard spring saturday so...

                  • net session with the lad in the morning
                  • home for a coffee and finish off the days form before loading a handful of long winded multi bets
                  • arvo at home pretending to do odd jobs around the house, lawns etc while really knocking back beers and punting on anything with 4 legs and a long nose running around caulfield or randwick and if I'm struggling that morphetville or eagle farm might get some attention too.
                  • 530/6pm usually end with a couple of boys from next door turning up to get their kids home for dinner but end up having a beer or three while I spout about the sport of kings and how good spring racing is. Make them stay for the last leg of a multi.
                  • potentially angry bbq around 630pm following my lack of belief of a redzel three-peat
                  • settle in to a bit of england vs aus between blowing the last of my cash on the wizard of the west at ascot
                  • AB's game - probably on the couch with me and my nerves being comforted by abusive texts from aus mates and/or UK family (depending on outcome of previous game)

                  Yeah same old saturday really

                  Do me a favour and help a brother out and flick me a few tips come Saturday as I won't have any time for form

                  We've got a caulfield cup to fit in there too!

                  I won't see much racing I doubt. 😞

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                  • HoorooH Hooroo

                    @JK said in Plans for Saturday:

                    @Hooroo said in Plans for Saturday:

                    @JK said in Plans for Saturday:

                    Yeah well pretty much a standard spring saturday so...

                    • net session with the lad in the morning
                    • home for a coffee and finish off the days form before loading a handful of long winded multi bets
                    • arvo at home pretending to do odd jobs around the house, lawns etc while really knocking back beers and punting on anything with 4 legs and a long nose running around caulfield or randwick and if I'm struggling that morphetville or eagle farm might get some attention too.
                    • 530/6pm usually end with a couple of boys from next door turning up to get their kids home for dinner but end up having a beer or three while I spout about the sport of kings and how good spring racing is. Make them stay for the last leg of a multi.
                    • potentially angry bbq around 630pm following my lack of belief of a redzel three-peat
                    • settle in to a bit of england vs aus between blowing the last of my cash on the wizard of the west at ascot
                    • AB's game - probably on the couch with me and my nerves being comforted by abusive texts from aus mates and/or UK family (depending on outcome of previous game)

                    Yeah same old saturday really

                    Do me a favour and help a brother out and flick me a few tips come Saturday as I won't have any time for form

                    We've got a caulfield cup to fit in there too!

                    I won't see much racing I doubt. 😞

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                    @Hooroo said in Plans for Saturday:

                    @JK said in Plans for Saturday:

                    @Hooroo said in Plans for Saturday:

                    @JK said in Plans for Saturday:

                    Yeah well pretty much a standard spring saturday so...

                    • net session with the lad in the morning
                    • home for a coffee and finish off the days form before loading a handful of long winded multi bets
                    • arvo at home pretending to do odd jobs around the house, lawns etc while really knocking back beers and punting on anything with 4 legs and a long nose running around caulfield or randwick and if I'm struggling that morphetville or eagle farm might get some attention too.
                    • 530/6pm usually end with a couple of boys from next door turning up to get their kids home for dinner but end up having a beer or three while I spout about the sport of kings and how good spring racing is. Make them stay for the last leg of a multi.
                    • potentially angry bbq around 630pm following my lack of belief of a redzel three-peat
                    • settle in to a bit of england vs aus between blowing the last of my cash on the wizard of the west at ascot
                    • AB's game - probably on the couch with me and my nerves being comforted by abusive texts from aus mates and/or UK family (depending on outcome of previous game)

                    Yeah same old saturday really

                    Do me a favour and help a brother out and flick me a few tips come Saturday as I won't have any time for form

                    We've got a caulfield cup to fit in there too!

                    I won't see much racing I doubt. 😞

                    The heart bleeds for you Hooroo, poor wee thing out there playing golf on your boys trip!!! :face_with_stuck-out_tongue:

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                    • SnowyS Snowy

                      @taniwharugby said in Plans for Saturday:

                      @mariner4life was an AB test on both nights my wife was in labour...

                      So your kids were a day old when you met them I assume?

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                      @Snowy said in Plans for Saturday:

                      @taniwharugby said in Plans for Saturday:

                      @mariner4life was an AB test on both nights my wife was in labour...

                      So your kids were a day old when you met them I assume?

                      I missed an ABs test last year when my second son was born. I often remind my wife of the sacrifice I made that night.

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                        I have nothing planned at all at this point, probably spend the day pottering about with a sick feeling in my stomach at the thought of losing to the bloody Irish again. Weather looks OK so I'll get the BBQ out and smoke some ribs plus the usual sausages and steaks plus beers.

                        Will be a big night for us - wife is a pretty ardent Wallabies supporter so will be fired up for the England game so that should be entertaining watching her lose her shit as the Wallabies play dumb-shit rugby yet again, losing when they should have won.

                        Then she'll be all on. Will have the Laptop on one side to post nonsensical rants on here which clever people will pick apart the following day, and the wife on the other side who will no doubt stick the boot in if we are losing as payback for my laughing at the Wallabies.

                        Bring it on!

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                        • JKJ JK

                          Yeah well pretty much a standard spring saturday so...

                          • net session with the lad in the morning
                          • home for a coffee and finish off the days form before loading a handful of long winded multi bets
                          • arvo at home pretending to do odd jobs around the house, lawns etc while really knocking back beers and punting on anything with 4 legs and a long nose running around caulfield or randwick and if I'm struggling that morphetville or eagle farm might get some attention too.
                          • 530/6pm usually end with a couple of boys from next door turning up to get their kids home for dinner but end up having a beer or three while I spout about the sport of kings and how good spring racing is. Make them stay for the last leg of a multi.
                          • potentially angry bbq around 630pm following my lack of belief of a redzel three-peat
                          • settle in to a bit of england vs aus between blowing the last of my cash on the wizard of the west at ascot
                          • AB's game - probably on the couch with me and my nerves being comforted by abusive texts from aus mates and/or UK family (depending on outcome of previous game)

                          Yeah same old saturday really

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                          @JK said in Plans for Saturday:

                          Yeah well pretty much a standard spring saturday so...

                          • net session with the lad in the morning
                          • home for a coffee and finish off the days form before loading a handful of long winded multi bets
                          • arvo at home pretending to do odd jobs around the house, lawns etc while really knocking back beers and punting on anything with 4 legs and a long nose running around caulfield or randwick and if I'm struggling that morphetville or eagle farm might get some attention too.
                          • 530/6pm usually end with a couple of boys from next door turning up to get their kids home for dinner but end up having a beer or three while I spout about the sport of kings and how good spring racing is. Make them stay for the last leg of a multi.
                          • potentially angry bbq around 630pm following my lack of belief of a redzel three-peat
                          • settle in to a bit of england vs aus between blowing the last of my cash on the wizard of the west at ascot
                          • AB's game - probably on the couch with me and my nerves being comforted by abusive texts from aus mates and/or UK family (depending on outcome of previous game)

                          Yeah same old saturday really

                          that is so much like how my normal saturday goes

                          but i stay the fuck out of Morphetville

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                            I'll be online here as don't have access to live stream of any kind (Fibre to the node is woeful around here) but as I did the same for the 2015 RWC, this is a good omen. I'll sort out actual replays via the usual channels later on.

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                              @gt12 said in Plans for Saturday:

                              I got offered a ticket, but it’s going with a work friend who isn’t a kiwi, and might be supporting Ireland.

                              There’s a strong chance I may punch them in the face if we lose.

                              Should I go anyway?

                              Any opportunity to punch an Irish supporter!

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                              @antipodean said in Plans for Saturday:

                              @gt12 said in Plans for Saturday:

                              I got offered a ticket, but it’s going with a work friend who isn’t a kiwi, and might be supporting Ireland.

                              There’s a strong chance I may punch them in the face if we lose.

                              Should I go anyway?

                              Any opportunity to punch an Irish supporter!

                              It's the only language they understand

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                                @antipodean said in Plans for Saturday:

                                @gt12 said in Plans for Saturday:

                                I got offered a ticket, but it’s going with a work friend who isn’t a kiwi, and might be supporting Ireland.

                                There’s a strong chance I may punch them in the face if we lose.

                                Should I go anyway?

                                Any opportunity to punch an Irish supporter!

                                It's the only language they understand

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                                @NTA said in Plans for Saturday:

                                @antipodean said in Plans for Saturday:

                                @gt12 said in Plans for Saturday:

                                I got offered a ticket, but it’s going with a work friend who isn’t a kiwi, and might be supporting Ireland.

                                There’s a strong chance I may punch them in the face if we lose.

                                Should I go anyway?

                                Any opportunity to punch an Irish supporter!

                                It's the only language they understand

                                Be like a family reunion.

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                                  Yeah, up for the England game, get some good coffee on, say "oh dear" and "uh oh" lots in the bits where England are doing bad or losing to give Bonesetta a taste of her own medicine.

                                  Cook up a big breakfast between games as I'll be too fidgety to sit around. Prolly crack a beer or cider.

                                  Watch the game. Exciting stuff hey! After that I'm supposed to be heading to the club for 125th anniversary celebrations, but that will most likely be decided by the result of the game. Es-fucken-pecially if England win and we don't.

                                  Then back home early evening absolutely sloshed to finish off cooking dinner for some of "our" friends - one of whom is a recovering alcoholic. This will be fun.

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                                  • voodooV voodoo

                                    @Hooroo said in Plans for Saturday:

                                    @JK said in Plans for Saturday:

                                    @Hooroo said in Plans for Saturday:

                                    @JK said in Plans for Saturday:

                                    Yeah well pretty much a standard spring saturday so...

                                    • net session with the lad in the morning
                                    • home for a coffee and finish off the days form before loading a handful of long winded multi bets
                                    • arvo at home pretending to do odd jobs around the house, lawns etc while really knocking back beers and punting on anything with 4 legs and a long nose running around caulfield or randwick and if I'm struggling that morphetville or eagle farm might get some attention too.
                                    • 530/6pm usually end with a couple of boys from next door turning up to get their kids home for dinner but end up having a beer or three while I spout about the sport of kings and how good spring racing is. Make them stay for the last leg of a multi.
                                    • potentially angry bbq around 630pm following my lack of belief of a redzel three-peat
                                    • settle in to a bit of england vs aus between blowing the last of my cash on the wizard of the west at ascot
                                    • AB's game - probably on the couch with me and my nerves being comforted by abusive texts from aus mates and/or UK family (depending on outcome of previous game)

                                    Yeah same old saturday really

                                    Do me a favour and help a brother out and flick me a few tips come Saturday as I won't have any time for form

                                    We've got a caulfield cup to fit in there too!

                                    I won't see much racing I doubt. 😞

                                    The heart bleeds for you Hooroo, poor wee thing out there playing golf on your boys trip!!! :face_with_stuck-out_tongue:

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                                    @voodoo said in Plans for Saturday:

                                    @Hooroo said in Plans for Saturday:

                                    @JK said in Plans for Saturday:

                                    @Hooroo said in Plans for Saturday:

                                    @JK said in Plans for Saturday:

                                    Yeah well pretty much a standard spring saturday so...

                                    • net session with the lad in the morning
                                    • home for a coffee and finish off the days form before loading a handful of long winded multi bets
                                    • arvo at home pretending to do odd jobs around the house, lawns etc while really knocking back beers and punting on anything with 4 legs and a long nose running around caulfield or randwick and if I'm struggling that morphetville or eagle farm might get some attention too.
                                    • 530/6pm usually end with a couple of boys from next door turning up to get their kids home for dinner but end up having a beer or three while I spout about the sport of kings and how good spring racing is. Make them stay for the last leg of a multi.
                                    • potentially angry bbq around 630pm following my lack of belief of a redzel three-peat
                                    • settle in to a bit of england vs aus between blowing the last of my cash on the wizard of the west at ascot
                                    • AB's game - probably on the couch with me and my nerves being comforted by abusive texts from aus mates and/or UK family (depending on outcome of previous game)

                                    Yeah same old saturday really

                                    Do me a favour and help a brother out and flick me a few tips come Saturday as I won't have any time for form

                                    We've got a caulfield cup to fit in there too!

                                    I won't see much racing I doubt. 😞

                                    The heart bleeds for you Hooroo, poor wee thing out there playing golf on your boys trip!!! :face_with_stuck-out_tongue:

                                    he's got it tough aye. The races is his missus' thing, so he is forced to go just to spend time with her. Then it's boys weekends playing golf, when he needs time out from supporting her

                                    Dunno how he copes.

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                                      P. S. @Chris-B is.. Is the cupboard where you keep your tramp?

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                                        P. S. @Chris-B is.. Is the cupboard where you keep your tramp?

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                                        @Bones I'm not bloody Dutch (or Austrian) either! 🙂

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                                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                          @Bones I'm not bloody Dutch (or Austrian) either! 🙂

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                                          @Chris-B said in Plans for Saturday:

                                          @Bones I'm not bloody Dutch (or Austrian) either! 🙂

                                          Oh right, the garage then. That's nice.

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