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RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2)

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    No Ben Smith and no Crotty. Reminds me of no Doug Howlett in 07.....

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    • FrankF Frank

      So Dane Coles as impact.
      Retallick maybe subbed at 50 minutes.

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      @Frank said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

      So Dane Coles as impact.

      I think this is the best use of Taylor and Coles now. Coles provides the better impact.

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        Experience, experience, experience.... then somehow we end up with four guys in the backline who had ~10 starts collectively in 2018 in Goodhue, ALB, Bridge and Reece.

        So much for forward planning.

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          Yeah leaked team was same one I was given from another source whos best mate is in the squad.

          He's named a few of the teams so far accurately so have some trust

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          @JK So why did we wait until 3:30 pm? 🤣

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          • rotatedR rotated

            Experience, experience, experience.... then somehow we end up with four guys in the backline who had ~10 starts collectively in 2018 in Goodhue, ALB, Bridge and Reece.

            So much for forward planning.

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            @rotated said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

            Experience, experience, experience.... then somehow we end up with four guys in the backline who had ~10 starts collectively in 2018 in Goodhue, ALB, Bridge and Reece.

            So much for forward planning.

            So your argument would be if form and talent demand selection, fuck 'em because they didn't start enough Tests the year before?

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            • BovidaeB Bovidae

              @JK So why did we wait until 3:30 pm? 🤣

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              @Bovidae said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

              @JK So why did we wait until 3:30 pm? 🤣

              We didnt... It was posted yesterday or the day before wasn't it?

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              • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                Can’t believe Ben Smith not there.

                Hansen really has balls, he just backs youth and go for it.

                No complaints otherwise but I still dont know what I think our best midfield is.

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                @Billy-Tell said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                Can’t believe Ben Smith not there.

                Hansen really has balls, he just backs youth and go for it.

                No complaints otherwise but I still dont know what I think our best midfield is.

                Interesting comment on RS Breakfast this morning about the announcers watching games with coaches.

                Nathan told the story of watching test with Razor where Lima Sopoaga was conservative with a penalty to touch and Razor said "You've got to be braver than that".

                Looks like you need balls.

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                • rotatedR rotated

                  Experience, experience, experience.... then somehow we end up with four guys in the backline who had ~10 starts collectively in 2018 in Goodhue, ALB, Bridge and Reece.

                  So much for forward planning.

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                  @rotated said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  Experience, experience, experience.... then somehow we end up with four guys in the backline who had ~10 starts collectively in 2018 in Goodhue, ALB, Bridge and Reece.

                  So much for forward planning.

                  Forward planning depends on the guys with experience not having rather dramatic losses of form - Rieko, Ben Smith.

                  Would you still play them because of their experience, or are you just having a bitch?

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                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                    No Ben Smith and no Crotty. Reminds me of no Doug Howlett in 07.....

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                    @KiwiMurph That post is not going to get likes

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                      @rotated said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                      Experience, experience, experience.... then somehow we end up with four guys in the backline who had ~10 starts collectively in 2018 in Goodhue, ALB, Bridge and Reece.

                      So much for forward planning.

                      So your argument would be if form and talent demand selection, fuck 'em because they didn't start enough Tests the year before?

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                      @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                      @rotated said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                      Experience, experience, experience.... then somehow we end up with four guys in the backline who had ~10 starts collectively in 2018 in Goodhue, ALB, Bridge and Reece.

                      So much for forward planning.

                      So your argument would be if form and talent demand selection, fuck 'em because they didn't start enough Tests the year before?

                      Quite the opposite - weight form more throughout the cycle rather then crapping on about experience the whole time only to abandon it after Perth, two games from squad announcement.

                      Speaking of Perth - getting injured early in the game was probably the best thing that happened to Goodhue, if he played 80 he may well have also lost his spot.

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                        @Bovidae said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                        @JK So why did we wait until 3:30 pm? 🤣

                        We didnt... It was posted yesterday or the day before wasn't it?

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                        @JK said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                        @Bovidae said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                        @JK So why did we wait until 3:30 pm? 🤣

                        We didnt... It was posted yesterday or the day before wasn't it?

                        I meant I don't remember you confirming you had also heard that was the team.

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                          I think Schmidt will go Uber conservative with his selection. Contrasting styles already.

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                            The Irish team is named at 8 pm NZT.

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                              @JK said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              @Bovidae said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              @JK So why did we wait until 3:30 pm? 🤣

                              We didnt... It was posted yesterday or the day before wasn't it?

                              I meant I don't remember you confirming you had also heard that was the team.

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                              @Bovidae said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              @JK said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              @Bovidae said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              @JK So why did we wait until 3:30 pm? 🤣

                              We didnt... It was posted yesterday or the day before wasn't it?

                              I meant I don't remember you confirming you had also heard that was the team.

                              Sorry didnt think I needed to as we all appeared to be under the impression that was the team. I just confirmed it once I saw it on nzherald while looking for something else.

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                              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                The Irish team is named at 8 pm NZT.

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                                @Bovidae said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                The Irish team is named at 8 pm NZT.

                                Can confirm I read this also

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                                  @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                  @rotated said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                  Experience, experience, experience.... then somehow we end up with four guys in the backline who had ~10 starts collectively in 2018 in Goodhue, ALB, Bridge and Reece.

                                  So much for forward planning.

                                  So your argument would be if form and talent demand selection, fuck 'em because they didn't start enough Tests the year before?

                                  Quite the opposite - weight form more throughout the cycle rather then crapping on about experience the whole time only to abandon it after Perth, two games from squad announcement.

                                  Speaking of Perth - getting injured early in the game was probably the best thing that happened to Goodhue, if he played 80 he may well have also lost his spot.

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                                  @rotated said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                  @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                  @rotated said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                  Experience, experience, experience.... then somehow we end up with four guys in the backline who had ~10 starts collectively in 2018 in Goodhue, ALB, Bridge and Reece.

                                  So much for forward planning.

                                  So your argument would be if form and talent demand selection, fuck 'em because they didn't start enough Tests the year before?

                                  Quite the opposite - weight form more throughout the cycle rather then crapping on about experience the whole time only to abandon it after Perth, two games from squad announcement.

                                  Form can fall off a cliff despite being great for three years prior to a RWC. Perth wasn't 2018.

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                                    It will likely be trotted out this centre combo have only started two tests together one against Namibia and one where Goodhue pulled up lame in the first 20 minutes.

                                    But they've played two tests in the last TRC where Crotty was injured in the first 20 against Aus and Argentina and played the final 20 against England and Ireland last year and SA this year.

                                    So of the options available they probably have played the most together over the past couple of years (at test level) and played some high intensity fixtures (with mixed results).

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                                      Pretty shocked not to see Bender on the bench. No way on earth anyone can convince me that Jordie is a better option. Unless he is injured that is a real head scratcher.

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                                        Pretty shocked not to see Bender on the bench. No way on earth anyone can convince me that Jordie is a better option. Unless he is injured that is a real head scratcher.

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                                        @DMX said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                        Pretty shocked not to see Bender on the bench. No way on earth anyone can convince me that Jordie is a better option. Unless he is injured that is a real head scratcher.

                                        That's just pig-headedness though when he is the best option.

                                        Has Reiko played his last game for the AB's? (Barring injury to the incumbents) Does that mean he may poke off overseas?

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                                          @rotated said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                          @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                          @rotated said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                          Experience, experience, experience.... then somehow we end up with four guys in the backline who had ~10 starts collectively in 2018 in Goodhue, ALB, Bridge and Reece.

                                          So much for forward planning.

                                          So your argument would be if form and talent demand selection, fuck 'em because they didn't start enough Tests the year before?

                                          Quite the opposite - weight form more throughout the cycle rather then crapping on about experience the whole time only to abandon it after Perth, two games from squad announcement.

                                          Form can fall off a cliff despite being great for three years prior to a RWC. Perth wasn't 2018.

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                                          @antipodean yeah I think maybe we (fans) are reading more into the Perth failure and the EP success than the coaches?

                                          That said, I am surprised it isnt Crotyy/ALB starting in the mid-field.

                                          This team is quite some way away from what most would have predicted midway through the Super season!!

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