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RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2)

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  • voodooV Offline
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    I'm good with the starters. I like ALB at 12, I want the ball in his hands more than he'd see if outside Crotty or SBW. And I trust the brains trust re Goodhue. Expect SBW to play 30mins at 12.

    Don't mind Taylor starting, he's been more accurate at lineout time IMO, and Coles does give more punch off the bench - but have no strong feeling either way

    I'd have taken BS over JB

    Is anyone else concerned about the lineout if/when Brodie gets gassed at 60mins? We could have Coles throwing to SW, S Barret (6cm shorter than Brodie) and Read as only targets. One of the downsides of of having a traditional big 6.

    Or am I just looking for problems?

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    • voodooV voodoo

      I'm good with the starters. I like ALB at 12, I want the ball in his hands more than he'd see if outside Crotty or SBW. And I trust the brains trust re Goodhue. Expect SBW to play 30mins at 12.

      Don't mind Taylor starting, he's been more accurate at lineout time IMO, and Coles does give more punch off the bench - but have no strong feeling either way

      I'd have taken BS over JB

      Is anyone else concerned about the lineout if/when Brodie gets gassed at 60mins? We could have Coles throwing to SW, S Barret (6cm shorter than Brodie) and Read as only targets. One of the downsides of of having a traditional big 6.

      Or am I just looking for problems?

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      @voodoo he was due 60 mins v Italy?

      Was listening to something the other day and they said the training session/game situations the ABs did Friday was brutal and intense, so I expect had he started, they'd be looking at >70 mins for him this week.

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      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

        @voodoo he was due 60 mins v Italy?

        Was listening to something the other day and they said the training session/game situations the ABs did Friday was brutal and intense, so I expect had he started, they'd be looking at >70 mins for him this week.

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        @taniwharugby yeah, that sounds right - fingers crossed!

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        • No QuarterN No Quarter

          My boy Jordie made the team!!!

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          @No-Quarter said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

          My boy Jordie made the team!!!

          A pity his other Dad @Rancid-Schnitzel isn't here to enjoy it as well.

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            Jordie's long-range goal-kicking seems to have played a part in his selection over BFA. Could be important for a knock-out match.

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            • BovidaeB Bovidae

              Jordie's long-range goal-kicking seems to have played a part in his selection over BFA. Could be important for a knock-out match.

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              @Bovidae said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

              Jordie's long-range goal-kicking seems to have played a part in his selection over BFA. Could be important for a knock-out match.

              Just read the same statement, So...penalties from the other side of half way and 50 metre drop goals..probably not something from Plan A, but great like you say to have them for plan B in a knock out match

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                @Bovidae said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                Jordie's long-range goal-kicking seems to have played a part in his selection over BFA. Could be important for a knock-out match.

                Just read the same statement, So...penalties from the other side of half way and 50 metre drop goals..probably not something from Plan A, but great like you say to have them for plan B in a knock out match

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                @bayimports said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                @Bovidae said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                Jordie's long-range goal-kicking seems to have played a part in his selection over BFA. Could be important for a knock-out match.

                Just read the same statement, So...penalties from the other side of half way and 50 metre drop goals..probably not something from Plan A, but great like you say to have them for plan B in a knock out match

                I would prefer they're Plan E or F.

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                  Seems to be more of a form emphasis over experience this WC compared to the past,

                  Which hasnt always been the way ,

                  No complaints , just an observation

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                  • HoorooH Hooroo

                    @DMX said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                    Pretty shocked not to see Bender on the bench. No way on earth anyone can convince me that Jordie is a better option. Unless he is injured that is a real head scratcher.

                    That's just pig-headedness though when he is the best option.

                    Has Reiko played his last game for the AB's? (Barring injury to the incumbents) Does that mean he may poke off overseas?

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                    @Hooroo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                    @DMX said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                    Pretty shocked not to see Bender on the bench. No way on earth anyone can convince me that Jordie is a better option. Unless he is injured that is a real head scratcher.

                    That's just pig-headedness though when he is the best option.

                    Has Reiko played his last game for the AB's? (Barring injury to the incumbents)

                    Only if he follows his brother's example of how (not) to deal with disappointment and/or turns into a fatty.

                    Does that mean he may poke off overseas?

                    He has a contract with NZR through to 2022, so not any time soon.

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                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                      @Hooroo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                      @DMX said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                      Pretty shocked not to see Bender on the bench. No way on earth anyone can convince me that Jordie is a better option. Unless he is injured that is a real head scratcher.

                      That's just pig-headedness though when he is the best option.

                      Has Reiko played his last game for the AB's? (Barring injury to the incumbents)

                      Only if he follows his brother's example of how (not) to deal with disappointment and/or turns into a fatty.

                      Does that mean he may poke off overseas?

                      He has a contract with NZR through to 2022, so not any time soon.

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                      @Stargazer said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                      @Hooroo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                      @DMX said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                      Pretty shocked not to see Bender on the bench. No way on earth anyone can convince me that Jordie is a better option. Unless he is injured that is a real head scratcher.

                      That's just pig-headedness though when he is the best option.

                      Has Reiko played his last game for the AB's? (Barring injury to the incumbents)

                      Only if he follows his brother's example of how (not) to deal with disappointment and/or turns into a fatty.

                      Does that mean he may poke off overseas?

                      He has a contract with NZR through to 2022, so not any time soon.

                      lets face it he's only one game away from a QF knockout from new wingers spilling a load of high balls (that no one has tested them on yet) and he's 1st choice again..

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                        https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20191019T2115&p0=240&font=cursive

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                        • No QuarterN No Quarter

                          My boy Jordie made the team!!!

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                          @No-Quarter said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                          My boy Jordie made the team!!!

                          The white mans Toeava

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                          • WillieTheWaiterW WillieTheWaiter

                            @Stargazer said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                            @Hooroo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                            @DMX said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                            Pretty shocked not to see Bender on the bench. No way on earth anyone can convince me that Jordie is a better option. Unless he is injured that is a real head scratcher.

                            That's just pig-headedness though when he is the best option.

                            Has Reiko played his last game for the AB's? (Barring injury to the incumbents)

                            Only if he follows his brother's example of how (not) to deal with disappointment and/or turns into a fatty.

                            Does that mean he may poke off overseas?

                            He has a contract with NZR through to 2022, so not any time soon.

                            lets face it he's only one game away from a QF knockout from new wingers spilling a load of high balls (that no one has tested them on yet) and he's 1st choice again..

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                            @WillieTheWaiter said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                            @Stargazer said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                            @Hooroo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                            @DMX said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                            Pretty shocked not to see Bender on the bench. No way on earth anyone can convince me that Jordie is a better option. Unless he is injured that is a real head scratcher.

                            That's just pig-headedness though when he is the best option.

                            Has Reiko played his last game for the AB's? (Barring injury to the incumbents)

                            Only if he follows his brother's example of how (not) to deal with disappointment and/or turns into a fatty.

                            Does that mean he may poke off overseas?

                            He has a contract with NZR through to 2022, so not any time soon.

                            lets face it he's only one game away from a QF knockout from new wingers spilling a load of high balls (that no one has tested them on yet) and he's 1st choice again..

                            Or he's an injury away from starting a semi final, or a red card suspension etc etc.

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                            • WillieTheWaiterW WillieTheWaiter

                              @Stargazer said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              @Hooroo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              @DMX said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              Pretty shocked not to see Bender on the bench. No way on earth anyone can convince me that Jordie is a better option. Unless he is injured that is a real head scratcher.

                              That's just pig-headedness though when he is the best option.

                              Has Reiko played his last game for the AB's? (Barring injury to the incumbents)

                              Only if he follows his brother's example of how (not) to deal with disappointment and/or turns into a fatty.

                              Does that mean he may poke off overseas?

                              He has a contract with NZR through to 2022, so not any time soon.

                              lets face it he's only one game away from a QF knockout from new wingers spilling a load of high balls (that no one has tested them on yet) and he's 1st choice again..

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                              @WillieTheWaiter said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              @Stargazer said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              @Hooroo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              @DMX said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              Pretty shocked not to see Bender on the bench. No way on earth anyone can convince me that Jordie is a better option. Unless he is injured that is a real head scratcher.

                              That's just pig-headedness though when he is the best option.

                              Has Reiko played his last game for the AB's? (Barring injury to the incumbents)

                              Only if he follows his brother's example of how (not) to deal with disappointment and/or turns into a fatty.

                              Does that mean he may poke off overseas?

                              He has a contract with NZR through to 2022, so not any time soon.

                              lets face it he's only one game away from a QF knockout from new wingers spilling a load of high balls (that no one has tested them on yet) and he's 1st choice again..

                              Didn't the South Africans kick a fair bit in our first pool game?

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                              • WillieTheWaiterW WillieTheWaiter

                                @Stargazer said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                @Hooroo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                @DMX said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                Pretty shocked not to see Bender on the bench. No way on earth anyone can convince me that Jordie is a better option. Unless he is injured that is a real head scratcher.

                                That's just pig-headedness though when he is the best option.

                                Has Reiko played his last game for the AB's? (Barring injury to the incumbents)

                                Only if he follows his brother's example of how (not) to deal with disappointment and/or turns into a fatty.

                                Does that mean he may poke off overseas?

                                He has a contract with NZR through to 2022, so not any time soon.

                                lets face it he's only one game away from a QF knockout from new wingers spilling a load of high balls (that no one has tested them on yet) and he's 1st choice again..

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                                @WillieTheWaiter said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                @Stargazer said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                @Hooroo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                @DMX said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                Pretty shocked not to see Bender on the bench. No way on earth anyone can convince me that Jordie is a better option. Unless he is injured that is a real head scratcher.

                                That's just pig-headedness though when he is the best option.

                                Has Reiko played his last game for the AB's? (Barring injury to the incumbents)

                                Only if he follows his brother's example of how (not) to deal with disappointment and/or turns into a fatty.

                                Does that mean he may poke off overseas?

                                He has a contract with NZR through to 2022, so not any time soon.

                                lets face it he's only one game away from a QF knockout from new wingers spilling a load of high balls (that no one has tested them on yet) and he's 1st choice again..

                                Mounga and beauden will be under most of them with the pattern we've been playing, and Bridge is pretty good anyway.

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                                • antipodeanA antipodean

                                  @WillieTheWaiter said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                  @Stargazer said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                  @Hooroo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                  @DMX said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                  Pretty shocked not to see Bender on the bench. No way on earth anyone can convince me that Jordie is a better option. Unless he is injured that is a real head scratcher.

                                  That's just pig-headedness though when he is the best option.

                                  Has Reiko played his last game for the AB's? (Barring injury to the incumbents)

                                  Only if he follows his brother's example of how (not) to deal with disappointment and/or turns into a fatty.

                                  Does that mean he may poke off overseas?

                                  He has a contract with NZR through to 2022, so not any time soon.

                                  lets face it he's only one game away from a QF knockout from new wingers spilling a load of high balls (that no one has tested them on yet) and he's 1st choice again..

                                  Didn't the South Africans kick a fair bit in our first pool game?

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                                  @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                  @WillieTheWaiter said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                  @Stargazer said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                  @Hooroo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                  @DMX said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                  Pretty shocked not to see Bender on the bench. No way on earth anyone can convince me that Jordie is a better option. Unless he is injured that is a real head scratcher.

                                  That's just pig-headedness though when he is the best option.

                                  Has Reiko played his last game for the AB's? (Barring injury to the incumbents)

                                  Only if he follows his brother's example of how (not) to deal with disappointment and/or turns into a fatty.

                                  Does that mean he may poke off overseas?

                                  He has a contract with NZR through to 2022, so not any time soon.

                                  lets face it he's only one game away from a QF knockout from new wingers spilling a load of high balls (that no one has tested them on yet) and he's 1st choice again..

                                  Didn't the South Africans kick a fair bit in our first pool game?

                                  Yeah. I thought we did fine. Let them give us the ball back and see where that gets them

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                                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                    No Ben Smith and no Crotty. Reminds me of no Doug Howlett in 07.....

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                                    @KiwiMurph said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                    No Ben Smith and no Crotty. Reminds me of no Doug Howlett in 07.....

                                    Choosing form players over the more experienced ones has never worked has it.

                                    I mean look at us picking Milner Skudder in 2015, and Kahui out of position on the wing in 2011 and then there's Dagg being picked ahead of Mils in 2011.

                                    What were we thinking?

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                                      Wonder if the "tackling" played a part in as to why SBW benched and not starting

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                                      • canefanC canefan

                                        @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                        @WillieTheWaiter said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                        @Stargazer said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                        @Hooroo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                        @DMX said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                        Pretty shocked not to see Bender on the bench. No way on earth anyone can convince me that Jordie is a better option. Unless he is injured that is a real head scratcher.

                                        That's just pig-headedness though when he is the best option.

                                        Has Reiko played his last game for the AB's? (Barring injury to the incumbents)

                                        Only if he follows his brother's example of how (not) to deal with disappointment and/or turns into a fatty.

                                        Does that mean he may poke off overseas?

                                        He has a contract with NZR through to 2022, so not any time soon.

                                        lets face it he's only one game away from a QF knockout from new wingers spilling a load of high balls (that no one has tested them on yet) and he's 1st choice again..

                                        Didn't the South Africans kick a fair bit in our first pool game?

                                        Yeah. I thought we did fine. Let them give us the ball back and see where that gets them

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                                        @canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                        @antipodean said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                        @WillieTheWaiter said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                        @Stargazer said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                        @Hooroo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                        @DMX said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                        Pretty shocked not to see Bender on the bench. No way on earth anyone can convince me that Jordie is a better option. Unless he is injured that is a real head scratcher.

                                        That's just pig-headedness though when he is the best option.

                                        Has Reiko played his last game for the AB's? (Barring injury to the incumbents)

                                        Only if he follows his brother's example of how (not) to deal with disappointment and/or turns into a fatty.

                                        Does that mean he may poke off overseas?

                                        He has a contract with NZR through to 2022, so not any time soon.

                                        lets face it he's only one game away from a QF knockout from new wingers spilling a load of high balls (that no one has tested them on yet) and he's 1st choice again..

                                        Didn't the South Africans kick a fair bit in our first pool game?

                                        Yeah. I thought we did fine. Let them give us the ball back and see where that gets them

                                        well it's interesting right - when they beat us they never gave us the ball.. so will they go to the high ball - giving us the potential to counterattack...

                                        guessing that due to the forecast for pissing down then they'll defo biff some up..

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                                          @KiwiMurph said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                          No Ben Smith and no Crotty. Reminds me of no Doug Howlett in 07.....

                                          Choosing form players over the more experienced ones has never worked has it.

                                          I mean look at us picking Milner Skudder in 2015, and Kahui out of position on the wing in 2011 and then there's Dagg being picked ahead of Mils in 2011.

                                          What were we thinking?

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                                          @Frank said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                          @KiwiMurph said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                          No Ben Smith and no Crotty. Reminds me of no Doug Howlett in 07.....

                                          Choosing form players over the more experienced ones has never worked has it.

                                          I mean look at us picking Milner Skudder in 2015, and Kahui out of position on the wing in 2011 and then there's Dagg being picked ahead of Mils in 2011.

                                          What were we thinking?

                                          Crotty is in better form than Goodhue.

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