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RWC: England v Australia (QF 1)

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    Interesting for me they choose to leave Ford on the bench. Bash n barge it is, then look to finish us off with pace.

    Run at Farrell all day until the red card achievement is unlocked.

    Maybe it'll be red for Kerevi fending him off. Who knows? #wheelofskeen

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      #76

      Two very similar teams IMHO - England have picked a big bopper at 8 and two flankers similar in size to Pooper.

      Their tight 5 isn't quite as tall as ours but I'm sure they'll have their shit together.

      Ages:

      STARTING XV - 26.6 (Oz 26.9)

      • Tight Five - 27.2 (Oz 26.2)
      • Forwards - 25.8 (Oz 26.6)
      • Backs - 27.6 (Oz 27.1)

      BENCH VIII - 28.1 (Oz 26.6)

      • Forwards - 27.8 (Oz 25.2)
      • Backs - 28.7 (Oz 29)

      MATCH DAY XXIII - 27.1 (Oz 26.8)

      Oldest: Heinz/Cole @ 32 (Lawes/Youngs 30) v Pocock @ 31 (Slipper and Beale are 30)
      Youngest: Curry @ 21 (Underhill 23, Itoje 24) v Petaia @ 19 (Uelese 22, Rodda 23)

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      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

        @voodoo It's definitely risky but I don't see that many great alternative options. JOC is not a 13 himself. Kerevi and TK have never worked as a combo. Petaia looks like the best back prospect that has come through the Aussie system in 10 years - he's one of their best talents they have so I think they are much better off with him out there rather than being too cautious and wondering what if. Wallabies have lost something like 6 test matches in a row against England so what they have been doing hasn't been working.

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        @KiwiMurph said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

        @voodoo It's definitely risky but I don't see that many great alternative options. JOC is not a 13 himself. Kerevi and TK have never worked as a combo. Petaia looks like the best back prospect that has come through the Aussie system in 10 years - he's one of their best talents they have so I think they are much better off with him out there rather than being too cautious and wondering what if. Wallabies have lost something like 6 test matches in a row against England so what they have been doing hasn't been working.

        Yeah I reckon that had to look for more x Factor Petata seems to have some they can’t die wondering good selection I think.

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        • ChrisC Chris

          @KiwiMurph said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

          @voodoo It's definitely risky but I don't see that many great alternative options. JOC is not a 13 himself. Kerevi and TK have never worked as a combo. Petaia looks like the best back prospect that has come through the Aussie system in 10 years - he's one of their best talents they have so I think they are much better off with him out there rather than being too cautious and wondering what if. Wallabies have lost something like 6 test matches in a row against England so what they have been doing hasn't been working.

          Yeah I reckon that had to look for more x Factor Petata seems to have some they can’t die wondering good selection I think.

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          Remember this game is under a roof as well. I think Wallabies might be going with a high tempo gameplan.

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            #79

            Forward packs:

            Tight Five total weight: ENG 581kg v AUS 590kg
            Forward Pack total weight: ENG 920kg v AUS 916kg (B Vunipola listed at 130kg is the main difference)
            Back Five average height: ENG 191cm v AUS 194cm

            Can barely fit a struck match between them.

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              @voodoo Petaia also played outside centre in the NRC last year.

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              @KiwiMurph said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

              @voodoo Petaia also played outside centre in the NRC last year.

              It’s where he is best placed because he actually has good vision.

              Wasted on the wing.

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                Could be an inspired decision. Probably offers more than Kuridrani, but Kuridrani is a pretty good defender.

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                  As predicted from Day 1, Farrell to 10 when the real games start.

                  Very surprised Slade starts before Joseph. Very little game time for Slade.

                  Could come back to haunt Eddie.

                  And think Manu is more effective at 13 when put in a bit of space rather than 12 and trying to bash to make space.

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                  • antipodeanA antipodean

                    Could be an inspired decision. Probably offers more than Kuridrani, but Kuridrani is a pretty good defender.

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                    @antipodean said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                    Could be an inspired decision. Probably offers more than Kuridrani, but Kuridrani is a pretty good defender.

                    He's good in contact, but he makes bad decisions on defence and leaves holes.

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                    • NTAN NTA

                      Interesting for me they choose to leave Ford on the bench. Bash n barge it is, then look to finish us off with pace.

                      Run at Farrell all day until the red card achievement is unlocked.

                      Maybe it'll be red for Kerevi fending him off. Who knows? #wheelofskeen

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                      @NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                      Interesting for me they choose to leave Ford on the bench. Bash n barge it is, then look to finish us off with pace.

                      Run at Farrell all day until the red card achievement is unlocked.

                      Maybe it'll be red for Kerevi fending him off. Who knows? #wheelofskeen

                      I reckon England have made a clear selection to get Kerevi running closer in towards the big boys and to protect the Ford-Farrell axis - early win for the Aussies forcing the Poms to change their team?

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                        @NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                        Interesting for me they choose to leave Ford on the bench. Bash n barge it is, then look to finish us off with pace.

                        Run at Farrell all day until the red card achievement is unlocked.

                        Maybe it'll be red for Kerevi fending him off. Who knows? #wheelofskeen

                        I reckon England have made a clear selection to get Kerevi running closer in towards the big boys and to protect the Ford-Farrell axis - early win for the Aussies forcing the Poms to change their team?

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                        @junior said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                        @NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                        Interesting for me they choose to leave Ford on the bench. Bash n barge it is, then look to finish us off with pace.

                        Run at Farrell all day until the red card achievement is unlocked.

                        Maybe it'll be red for Kerevi fending him off. Who knows? #wheelofskeen

                        I reckon England have made a clear selection to get Kerevi running closer in towards the big boys and to protect the Ford-Farrell axis - early win for the Aussies forcing the Poms to change their team?

                        I reckon they'll be using Tuilagi against Lilo in much the same way, which was probably always their plan against us. Ford/Farrell against Wales.

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                          Why has Cheika decided to ditch James O'Connor and go with Petaia all of a sudden?
                          Desperation move or planned?

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                            Hodge and Beale are baffling selections. Look for a lot of high ball kicked to the defensively poor Beale.

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                            • F Frank

                              Why has Cheika decided to ditch James O'Connor and go with Petaia all of a sudden?
                              Desperation move or planned?

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                              @Frank said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                              Why has Cheika decided to ditch James O'Connor and go with Petaia all of a sudden?
                              Desperation move or planned?

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                              • canefanC canefan

                                @Frank said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                Why has Cheika decided to ditch James O'Connor and go with Petaia all of a sudden?
                                Desperation move or planned?

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                                @canefan said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                @Frank said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                Why has Cheika decided to ditch James O'Connor and go with Petaia all of a sudden?
                                Desperation move or planned?

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                                Heads or this random selection

                                Wallabies team to play England in RWC quarter-final
                                Scott Sio
                                Tolu Latu
                                Allan Alaalatoa
                                Izack Rodda
                                Rory Arnold
                                David Pocock
                                Michael Hooper (c)
                                Isi Naisarani
                                Will Genia
                                Christian Lealiifano
                                Marika Koroibete
                                Samu Kerevi
                                Jordan Petaia
                                Reece Hodge
                                Kurtley Beale

                                Bench

                                Jordan Uelese
                                James Slipper
                                Taniela Tupou
                                Adam Coleman
                                Lukhan Salakaia-Loto
                                Nic White
                                Matt Toomua
                                James O’Connor

                                https://www.theroar.com.au/2019/10/17/wallabies-rwc-quarter-final-team-selection-vs-england-heedless-of-the-opposition-michael-cheika-rearranges-the-deck-chairs-once-again/

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                                  Buggered if I understand that Aussie team.

                                  James O'Connor has been playing well and the Aussie backline has looked better every time that Toomua has come on.

                                  This Petaia must be an absolute superstar in the making to be starting in a world cup knockout over both of these guys. I know nothing of him really, so can't offer much comment.

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                                  • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                    Buggered if I understand that Aussie team.

                                    James O'Connor has been playing well and the Aussie backline has looked better every time that Toomua has come on.

                                    This Petaia must be an absolute superstar in the making to be starting in a world cup knockout over both of these guys. I know nothing of him really, so can't offer much comment.

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                                    @MajorRage maybe Cheika is "keeping his powder dry" for the last 30 minutes?

                                    p.s. keeping powder dry must be the most over-used phrase I keep seeing re this RWC...

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                                      #92

                                      Beale has been shit under high ball
                                      Jordan very inexperienced at test level and in centre position. Trickiest decision making position given to the youngest guy for ever
                                      Maybe not a problem cos Samu never passes
                                      9 and 10 only played together once before
                                      Forwards look good tho

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                                      • NTAN NTA

                                        @junior said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                        @NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                        Interesting for me they choose to leave Ford on the bench. Bash n barge it is, then look to finish us off with pace.

                                        Run at Farrell all day until the red card achievement is unlocked.

                                        Maybe it'll be red for Kerevi fending him off. Who knows? #wheelofskeen

                                        I reckon England have made a clear selection to get Kerevi running closer in towards the big boys and to protect the Ford-Farrell axis - early win for the Aussies forcing the Poms to change their team?

                                        I reckon they'll be using Tuilagi against Lilo in much the same way, which was probably always their plan against us. Ford/Farrell against Wales.

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                                        @NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                        @junior said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                        @NTA said in RWC: England v Australia (QF 1):

                                        Interesting for me they choose to leave Ford on the bench. Bash n barge it is, then look to finish us off with pace.

                                        Run at Farrell all day until the red card achievement is unlocked.

                                        Maybe it'll be red for Kerevi fending him off. Who knows? #wheelofskeen

                                        I reckon England have made a clear selection to get Kerevi running closer in towards the big boys and to protect the Ford-Farrell axis - early win for the Aussies forcing the Poms to change their team?

                                        I reckon they'll be using Tuilagi against Lilo in much the same way, which was probably always their plan against us. Ford/Farrell against Wales.

                                        Yes, but again it actually brings Tuilagi running one out closer to Pooper - I'm not sure this ploy will work so well for England than having him runa bit wider out

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                                          This made me laugh re: Ben Skeen (TMO for this game).
                                          https://www.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/dj32hv/would_your_whole_team_be_sent_off_from_ben_skeen/

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