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RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2)

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    @DMX said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    Pretty shocked not to see Bender on the bench. No way on earth anyone can convince me that Jordie is a better option. Unless he is injured that is a real head scratcher.

    I reckon Jordie's selection betrays some concern about Reece's ability under the high ball. With JB on the bench, they can defuse the aerial threat, but still maintain some of the dangerous attacking ability (which they will lose a lot of with BFA's current form). If JB needs to come and rescue Reece, I can see BFA playing a semi and final (should we make it that far)

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    @junior said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    @DMX said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    Pretty shocked not to see Bender on the bench. No way on earth anyone can convince me that Jordie is a better option. Unless he is injured that is a real head scratcher.

    I reckon Jordie's selection betrays some concern about Reece's ability under the high ball. With JB on the bench, they can defuse the aerial threat, but still maintain some of the dangerous attacking ability (which they will lose a lot of with BFA's current form). If JB needs to come and rescue Reece, I can see BFA playing a semi and final (should we make it that far)

    There has always been, and still remains, more chance of the ABs winning a Test Match with BFA in the starting XV (23) than being on the pine.

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    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

      @jegga said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

      Someone said they thought it was a bit small?

      Not too sure, but thought the idea was to share some games with Scotland and Wales. Dublin has 2 big stadiums and Belfast's Windsor Park is also pretty big - and there's quite a few big GAA places in Cork etc.

      As Irish rugby is all of Ireland, it would a great way to showcase the country and it's passion for the game. Welcome would be pretty warm, that's for sure.

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      @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

      @jegga said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

      Someone said they thought it was a bit small?

      Not too sure, but thought the idea was to share some games with Scotland and Wales. Dublin has 2 big stadiums and Belfast's Windsor Park is also pretty big - and there's quite a few big GAA places in Cork etc.

      As Irish rugby is all of Ireland, it would a great way to showcase the country and it's passion for the game. Welcome would be pretty warm, that's for sure.

      Start saving now.

      The craic's not free.

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        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116678771/all-blacks-v-ireland-joe-schmidt-misses-prize-chance-to-drill-for-good-oil-on-richie-mounga

        Classy move by Oirish Joe

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          "loyalty to a particular team"

          Yeah Joe...looked in a mirror recently?

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          • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

            @jegga said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

            Someone said they thought it was a bit small?

            Not too sure, but thought the idea was to share some games with Scotland and Wales. Dublin has 2 big stadiums and Belfast's Windsor Park is also pretty big - and there's quite a few big GAA places in Cork etc.

            As Irish rugby is all of Ireland, it would a great way to showcase the country and it's passion for the game. Welcome would be pretty warm, that's for sure.

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            @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

            @jegga said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

            Someone said they thought it was a bit small?

            Not too sure, but thought the idea was to share some games with Scotland and Wales. Dublin has 2 big stadiums and Belfast's Windsor Park is also pretty big - and there's quite a few big GAA places in Cork etc.

            As Irish rugby is all of Ireland, it would a great way to showcase the country and it's passion for the game. Welcome would be pretty warm, that's for sure.

            It would be a disaster - we gave them the headquarters for World Rugby and look what's happened to the game!

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            • canefanC canefan

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116678771/all-blacks-v-ireland-joe-schmidt-misses-prize-chance-to-drill-for-good-oil-on-richie-mounga

              Classy move by Oirish Joe

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              @canefan Although, if O'Gara has any professional integrity he'd likely have said do your own research Joe!

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              • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                @kiwiinmelb said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                I remember 2007 , rotation was blamed by some . Still not sure how that lost that game.

                Simples. France adapted better to the Ref than we did.

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                @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                @kiwiinmelb said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                I remember 2007 , rotation was blamed by some . Still not sure how that lost that game.

                Simples. France adapted better to the Ref than we did.

                Yeah, amazing that they were able to adapt to a ref that only penalised the other team while ignoring all of their countless indiscretions. They really had to think on their feet there.

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                • No QuarterN No Quarter

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  @kiwiinmelb said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  I remember 2007 , rotation was blamed by some . Still not sure how that lost that game.

                  Simples. France adapted better to the Ref than we did.

                  Yeah, amazing that they were able to adapt to a ref that only penalised the other team while ignoring all of their countless indiscretions. They really had to think on their feet there.

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                  @No-Quarter realising that the ref was only blowing one way was adapting, no? 😉

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                  • voodooV voodoo

                    Jeez boys, a lot of WE did this, WE didn't do that, the ref blah blah. Not much credit for anything the oppo did.

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                    @voodoo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                    Jeez boys, a lot of WE did this, WE didn't do that, the ref blah blah. Not much credit for anything the oppo did.

                    We're Kiwis. We do not give credit...

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                    • No QuarterN No Quarter

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                      @kiwiinmelb said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                      I remember 2007 , rotation was blamed by some . Still not sure how that lost that game.

                      Simples. France adapted better to the Ref than we did.

                      Yeah, amazing that they were able to adapt to a ref that only penalised the other team while ignoring all of their countless indiscretions. They really had to think on their feet there.

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                      @No-Quarter said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                      @kiwiinmelb said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                      I remember 2007 , rotation was blamed by some . Still not sure how that lost that game.

                      Simples. France adapted better to the Ref than we did.

                      Yeah, amazing that they were able to adapt to a ref that only penalised the other team while ignoring all of their countless indiscretions. They really had to think on their feet there.

                      I’ve never watched that game again , although seen the tries in highlights ,

                      Serious question because I can’t remember, Did he penalise us in the second half ?

                      I was under the impression he just put the whistle away in general under pressure , but it affected us more because we had all the ball .

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                      • The IrishmanT The Irishman

                        Ya know wha lads? I think we're going to beat you fuckers! Especially since some of you called us part of the UK!

                        Bring it on!!

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                        @The-Irishman said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                        Ya know wha lads? I think we're going to beat you fuckers! Especially since some of you called us part of the UK!

                        Bring it on!!

                        Well part of Ireland (15%) is part of the UK. It’s an easy mistake to make since most people don’t realise that Ireland is a separate sovereign state, even Ireland is the name of the rugby team that represents Ireland and Northern Ireland as that is what it was called when they first played as Ireland, before it was split into Northern Ireland and Ireland. It’s a bit like New Zealand is part of Australia (big island, little island) which means I suppose that New Zealand is very like Ireland - small, speak funny, and poke fun at the British occasionally, and have a Queen as their head of state....

                        Hope that clears things up.

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                          @voodoo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                          Jeez boys, a lot of WE did this, WE didn't do that, the ref blah blah. Not much credit for anything the oppo did.

                          We're Kiwis. We do not give credit...

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                          @booboo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                          @voodoo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                          Jeez boys, a lot of WE did this, WE didn't do that, the ref blah blah. Not much credit for anything the oppo did.

                          We're Kiwis. We do not give credit...

                          Some people never learn, tsk, tsk.

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                            FFS It's simple

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                              FFS It's simple

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                              @Machpants And all of them, except NI, hate the English 🙂

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                                @Machpants And all of them, except NI, hate the English 🙂

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                                @canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                @Machpants And all of them, except NI, hate the English 🙂

                                1/2 the NI do, too!

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                                • voodooV voodoo

                                  Jeez boys, a lot of WE did this, WE didn't do that, the ref blah blah. Not much credit for anything the oppo did.

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                                  @voodoo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                  Jeez boys, a lot of WE did this, WE didn't do that, the ref blah blah. Not much credit for anything the oppo did.

                                  The thing is, that wasn't a very good French team. It didn't play particularly well before that game, nor after.

                                  That's why it hurts so much more than other losses, where the opponents we lost to were actually better than us.

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                                    I get the impression that quite a few of us need to go back into therapy over "that" match and Mr Barnes who was the true "choker" that day.

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                                      Good analysis

                                      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/analysis-how-the-all-blacks-could-outsmart-the-rush-defence

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                                        @The-Irishman said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                        Ya know wha lads? I think we're going to beat you fuckers! Especially since some of you called us part of the UK!

                                        Bring it on!!

                                        Well part of Ireland (15%) is part of the UK. It’s an easy mistake to make since most people don’t realise that Ireland is a separate sovereign state, even Ireland is the name of the rugby team that represents Ireland and Northern Ireland as that is what it was called when they first played as Ireland, before it was split into Northern Ireland and Ireland. It’s a bit like New Zealand is part of Australia (big island, little island) which means I suppose that New Zealand is very like Ireland - small, speak funny, and poke fun at the British occasionally, and have a Queen as their head of state....

                                        Hope that clears things up.

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                                        @Derm-McCrum said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                        @The-Irishman said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                        Ya know wha lads? I think we're going to beat you fuckers! Especially since some of you called us part of the UK!

                                        Bring it on!!

                                        Well part of Ireland (15%) is part of the UK. It’s an easy mistake to make since most people don’t realise that Ireland is a separate sovereign state, even Ireland is the name of the rugby team that represents Ireland and Northern Ireland as that is what it was called when they first played as Ireland, before it was split into Northern Ireland and Ireland. It’s a bit like New Zealand is part of Australia (big island, little island) which means I suppose that New Zealand is very like Ireland - small, speak funny, and poke fun at the British occasionally, and have a Queen as their head of state....

                                        Hope that clears things up.

                                        Tl;dr do we call you poms?

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                                        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                          @taniwharugby

                                          Ah, OK. Blame the 4th glass of Romanian Pinot 🙂

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                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                          @taniwharugby

                                          Ah, OK. Blame the 4th glass of Romanian Pinot 🙂

                                          Have you taken up @Snowy's pastime? Sounds like England vs Australia will be short one official.

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