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RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2)

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  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

    @Nepia said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    @Nepia said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    @Nepia said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    @WillieTheWaiter said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    @Snowy said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    France adapted better to the Ref than we did.

    France adapted better to the lack of a ref than we did.

    McCaw's captaincy, or lack of, was also a key factor. He was anything but Mr Cool, calm and collected in that game.

    yep. who can forget the frogs scoring and the AB's being in a huddle and richie just off to the side..
    who else should have been captain in that team though?

    Tana (the player and captain, not the coach - Blues fans) should have held on to the RWC, I'm convinced that in that alternate timeline we win.

    The same Tana that was showing major signs in the back end of 2004 and into 2005 that he had slowed significantly?

    Can you keep your alternate Cantab facts out of this please? I'm trying to get a senior player on the field who'll get the team to set for a drop goal at some stage.

    Heading into the 2007 RWC Aaron Mauger had made the most drop goals of any player in the squad and yet he was sitting in the stands for the QF. Shocker....

    Would his captain have let him kick a drop goal?
    Would 3 points have won us the game if we didn't have our best attacking player on the field?
    Would he have missed frequently like Mehrts did in 1995?

    The player on the field didn't matter, it was the decision not to set for one that was the issue.

    Haha, of course the player on the field matters. He can set himself up quite easily. It’s pretty easy to call a play from 1st 5 and organise the troops.

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    @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    @Nepia said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    @Nepia said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    @Nepia said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    @WillieTheWaiter said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    @Snowy said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

    France adapted better to the Ref than we did.

    France adapted better to the lack of a ref than we did.

    McCaw's captaincy, or lack of, was also a key factor. He was anything but Mr Cool, calm and collected in that game.

    yep. who can forget the frogs scoring and the AB's being in a huddle and richie just off to the side..
    who else should have been captain in that team though?

    Tana (the player and captain, not the coach - Blues fans) should have held on to the RWC, I'm convinced that in that alternate timeline we win.

    The same Tana that was showing major signs in the back end of 2004 and into 2005 that he had slowed significantly?

    Can you keep your alternate Cantab facts out of this please? I'm trying to get a senior player on the field who'll get the team to set for a drop goal at some stage.

    Heading into the 2007 RWC Aaron Mauger had made the most drop goals of any player in the squad and yet he was sitting in the stands for the QF. Shocker....

    Would his captain have let him kick a drop goal?
    Would 3 points have won us the game if we didn't have our best attacking player on the field?
    Would he have missed frequently like Mehrts did in 1995?

    The player on the field didn't matter, it was the decision not to set for one that was the issue.

    Haha, of course the player on the field matters. He can set himself up quite easily. It’s pretty easy to call a play from 1st 5 and organise the troops.

    Maybe in your alternate universe where all the senior players change their mind and decide to go for a drop goal just because Mauger is on the field.

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    • P pakman

      Pakman was at Dublin 1991, Ellis Park 1995, Twickenham 1999, Sydney 2003 and Cardiff 2007. He's watching on Sky.

      Irish have no chance.

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      @pakman said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

      Pakman was at Dublin 1991, Ellis Park 1995, Twickenham 1999, Sydney 2003 and Cardiff 2007. He's watching on Sky.

      Irish have no chance.

      Just in case, I hope you will be sitting in an appropriate spot to enjoy the match

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      • BonesB Bones

        @taniwharugby I tried to read it but couldn't make any sense of the first couple of paragraphs and lost interest.

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        @Bones good effort bro, I read the link and decided it wasnt gonna be my cup o' tea!

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        • canefanC canefan

          @pakman said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

          Pakman was at Dublin 1991, Ellis Park 1995, Twickenham 1999, Sydney 2003 and Cardiff 2007. He's watching on Sky.

          Irish have no chance.

          Just in case, I hope you will be sitting in an appropriate spot to enjoy the match

          alt text

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          @canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

          @pakman said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

          Pakman was at Dublin 1991, Ellis Park 1995, Twickenham 1999, Sydney 2003 and Cardiff 2007. He's watching on Sky.

          Irish have no chance.

          Just in case, I hope you will be sitting in an appropriate spot to enjoy the match

          alt text

          @Snowy's house? Don't go to Snowy's house.

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          • M Machpants

            It all comes downv to the way the cards fall, IMO

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            @Machpants said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

            It all comes downv to the way the cards fall, IMO

            And hopefully karma comes to play. After all, Oirish whinging after Henshaw spun uncontrollably into Cane’s shoulder has helped bring about the current lottery.

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              @Bones good effort bro, I read the link and decided it wasnt gonna be my cup o' tea!

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              @taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

              @Bones good effort bro, I read the link and decided it wasnt gonna be my cup o' tea!

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              • BonesB Bones

                @canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                @pakman said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                Pakman was at Dublin 1991, Ellis Park 1995, Twickenham 1999, Sydney 2003 and Cardiff 2007. He's watching on Sky.

                Irish have no chance.

                Just in case, I hope you will be sitting in an appropriate spot to enjoy the match

                alt text

                @Snowy's house? Don't go to Snowy's house.

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                @Bones said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                @Snowy's house? Don't go to Snowy's house.

                Shit, not inviting that fella over for a beer now. Scary stuff.

                alt text

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                • M Machpants

                  @taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  @Bones good effort bro, I read the link and decided it wasnt gonna be my cup o' tea!

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                  @Machpants said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  @taniwharugby said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                  @Bones good effort bro, I read the link and decided it wasnt gonna be my cup o' tea!

                  Gas.

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                  • nzzpN nzzp

                    @Bones said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                    @Snowy's house? Don't go to Snowy's house.

                    Shit, not inviting that fella over for a beer now. Scary stuff.

                    alt text

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                    @nzzp He'll even put on a floor show

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                    • canefanC canefan

                      @nzzp He'll even put on a floor show

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                      @canefan said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                      @nzzp He'll even put on a floor show

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                      yeah, fuck it. @Snowy come for a beer sometime, what could possibly go wrong

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                      • nzzpN nzzp

                        This is quality.

                        Side that has no knockout wins thinks NZ are mentally weak. Lads, you're 12 years too late.

                        https://www.the42.ie/kiwi-world-cup-doubt-all-blacks-new-zealand-chokers-4853760-Oct2019/

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                        @nzzp said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                        This is quality.

                        Side that has no knockout wins thinks NZ are mentally weak. Lads, you're 12 years too late.

                        https://www.the42.ie/kiwi-world-cup-doubt-all-blacks-new-zealand-chokers-4853760-Oct2019/

                        That was such a painful read. They even pulled out the whole Beaver-penalty-not-really-going-over-in-2011 thing.

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                        • nzzpN nzzp

                          This is quality.

                          Side that has no knockout wins thinks NZ are mentally weak. Lads, you're 12 years too late.

                          https://www.the42.ie/kiwi-world-cup-doubt-all-blacks-new-zealand-chokers-4853760-Oct2019/

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                          @nzzp said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                          This is quality.

                          Side that has no knockout wins thinks NZ are mentally weak. Lads, you're 12 years too late.

                          https://www.the42.ie/kiwi-world-cup-doubt-all-blacks-new-zealand-chokers-4853760-Oct2019/

                          What is that disjointed dribbling shit?

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                          • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

                            @voodoo said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                            Jeez boys, a lot of WE did this, WE didn't do that, the ref blah blah. Not much credit for anything the oppo did.

                            The thing is, that wasn't a very good French team. It didn't play particularly well before that game, nor after.

                            That's why it hurts so much more than other losses, where the opponents we lost to were actually better than us.

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                            @Chester-Draws said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                            That's why it hurts so much more than other losses, where the opponents we lost to were actually better than us.

                            Yeah. Generally don't mind when we're beaten by a better team on the day - they deserve to win and be congratulated.

                            It's when we play like pistonwristedgibbons and lose that I want to start kicking things.

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                            • TeWaioT TeWaio

                              @nzzp said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              This is quality.

                              Side that has no knockout wins thinks NZ are mentally weak. Lads, you're 12 years too late.

                              https://www.the42.ie/kiwi-world-cup-doubt-all-blacks-new-zealand-chokers-4853760-Oct2019/

                              That was such a painful read. They even pulled out the whole Beaver-penalty-not-really-going-over-in-2011 thing.

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                              @TeWaio said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                              That was such a painful read. They even pulled out the whole Beaver-penalty-not-really-going-over-in-2011 thing.

                              I know, right! Like we've got World Rugby and the refs in our pocket.

                              So that's why we win; financial and political clout.

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                              • BonesB Bones

                                @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                @taniwharugby

                                Ah, OK. Blame the 4th glass of Romanian Pinot 🙂

                                Have you taken up @Snowy's pastime? Sounds like England vs Australia will be short one official.

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                                @Bones

                                Have you taken up @Snowy's pastime?

                                If Snowy's pastime is finding the perfect Pinot Noir, then yes.

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                                • nzzpN nzzp

                                  @TeWaio said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                  That was such a painful read. They even pulled out the whole Beaver-penalty-not-really-going-over-in-2011 thing.

                                  I know, right! Like we've got World Rugby and the refs in our pocket.

                                  So that's why we win; financial and political clout.

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                                  @nzzp said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                  I know, right! Like we've got World Rugby and the refs in our pocket.

                                  You forgot we control the weather in Japan as well.

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                                  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                    @Chester-Draws said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                    That's why it hurts so much more than other losses, where the opponents we lost to were actually better than us.

                                    Yeah. Generally don't mind when we're beaten by a better team on the day - they deserve to win and be congratulated.

                                    It's when we play like pistonwristedgibbons and lose that I want to start kicking things.

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                                    @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                    @Chester-Draws said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                    That's why it hurts so much more than other losses, where the opponents we lost to were actually better than us.

                                    Yeah. Generally don't mind when we're beaten by a better team on the day - they deserve to win and be congratulated.

                                    It's when we play like pistonwristedgibbons and lose that I want to start kicking things.

                                    Yeah, thinking England 2012 - I was at the club and didn't take that one bad at all, we got outplayed well and truly. Plus when I said we're gonna lose a pom piped up with a bet that he'd get a silver fern tattooed next to the wallaby on his arm (from another bet). I must follow up on that...

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                                    • nzzpN nzzp

                                      @Bones said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                      @Snowy's house? Don't go to Snowy's house.

                                      Shit, not inviting that fella over for a beer now. Scary stuff.

                                      alt text

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                                      @nzzp said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                      @Bones said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                      @Snowy's house? Don't go to Snowy's house.

                                      Shit, not inviting that fella over for a beer now. Scary stuff.

                                      alt text

                                      Nah, @Snowy is sweet. I've been in his basement since 2007. The food is pretty crap but the Wi-Fi is all-time.

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                                        Leave this here on the off chance that we don't see Steve losing his biscuit in teh future

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                          @Chester-Draws said in RWC: All Blacks v Ireland (QF2):

                                          That's why it hurts so much more than other losses, where the opponents we lost to were actually better than us.

                                          Yeah. Generally don't mind when we're beaten by a better team on the day - they deserve to win and be congratulated.

                                          It's when we play like pistonwristedgibbons and lose that I want to start kicking things.

                                          Yeah, thinking England 2012 - I was at the club and didn't take that one bad at all, we got outplayed well and truly. Plus when I said we're gonna lose a pom piped up with a bet that he'd get a silver fern tattooed next to the wallaby on his arm (from another bet). I must follow up on that...

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                                          @Bones

                                          My only fond memory of 2007 was walking back to the car thru Cardiff and seeing a drunk twat in an England shirt, taunting any Kiwi he could find, getting decked by a Saffa fan.

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