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RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1)

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  • SnowyS Offline
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    In the last decade England have come to NZ for one tour and lost all three IIRC?

    Every other match was EOYT when we usually aren't at our best and were all at Twickenham? They won one of them I think?

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      In the last decade England have come to NZ for one tour and lost all three IIRC?

      Every other match was EOYT when we usually aren't at our best and were all at Twickenham? They won one of them I think?

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        @Blackheart said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

        The real final.

        Nah. SA will be worthy finalists as well.

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        @Damo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

        @Blackheart said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

        The real final.

        Nah. SA will be worthy finalists as well.

        Not so fast ke-mo sah-be

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        • canefanC canefan

          @taniwharugby said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

          I am more concerned about this English side than I was Ireland.

          Although I don't expect we will play as dumb as Aussie did to let England get away.

          Should be a cracker!

          When are ref appointments announced...I'd say high odds us getting Garces next week 😬

          Could he be any worse than Owens was last night? Dont answer that...... Owens let them loose in the breakdown and let them off at least two or three dangerous cardable offenses. Meanwhile he pinged us increasingly for all manner of indiscretions, even one he made up to send Todd to the bin!

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          The scores are eerily similar, but the numbers hide the manner of each victory

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          @canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

          @taniwharugby said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

          I am more concerned about this English side than I was Ireland.

          Although I don't expect we will play as dumb as Aussie did to let England get away.

          Should be a cracker!

          When are ref appointments announced...I'd say high odds us getting Garces next week 😬

          Could he be any worse than Owens was last night? Dont answer that...... Owens let them loose in the breakdown and let them off at least two or three dangerous cardable offenses. Meanwhile he pinged us increasingly for all manner of indiscretions, even one he made up to send Todd to the bin!

          Screenshot_20191020-102102_Chrome.jpg

          The scores are eerily similar, but the numbers hide the manner of each victory

          The persecution complex is strong with this one

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          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

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            @taniwharugby said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

            @Snowy
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            Yup we lose to England once every ten years, still got a few before our next one (2003 was previous)

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            • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

              @Damo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

              @Blackheart said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

              The real final.

              Nah. SA will be worthy finalists as well.

              Not so fast ke-mo sah-be

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              @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

              @Damo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

              @Blackheart said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

              The real final.

              Nah. SA will be worthy finalists as well.

              Not so fast ke-mo sah-be

              Can't see it Mike.

              Your boys struggled past Aussie. Think the Bokke are a class above.

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              • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                @Damo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                @Blackheart said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                The real final.

                Nah. SA will be worthy finalists as well.

                Not so fast ke-mo sah-be

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                @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                @Damo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                @Blackheart said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                The real final.

                Nah. SA will be worthy finalists as well.

                Not so fast ke-mo sah-be

                I'm seriously behind your boys all the way to the final

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                • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                  @Damo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                  @Blackheart said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                  The real final.

                  Nah. SA will be worthy finalists as well.

                  Not so fast ke-mo sah-be

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                  @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                  @Damo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                  @Blackheart said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                  The real final.

                  Nah. SA will be worthy finalists as well.

                  Not so fast ke-mo sah-be

                  Wales have a very good recent record against SA. If they can get by France they will not fear the boks

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                  • canefanC canefan

                    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                    @Damo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                    @Blackheart said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                    The real final.

                    Nah. SA will be worthy finalists as well.

                    Not so fast ke-mo sah-be

                    Wales have a very good recent record against SA. If they can get by France they will not fear the boks

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                    @canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                    @Damo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                    @Blackheart said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                    The real final.

                    Nah. SA will be worthy finalists as well.

                    Not so fast ke-mo sah-be

                    Wales have a very good recent record against SA. If they can get by France they will not fear the boks

                    They just need to stay fit.

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                    • canefanC canefan

                      @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                      @Damo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                      @Blackheart said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                      The real final.

                      Nah. SA will be worthy finalists as well.

                      Not so fast ke-mo sah-be

                      Wales have a very good recent record against SA. If they can get by France they will not fear the boks

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                      @canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                      @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                      @Damo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                      @Blackheart said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                      The real final.

                      Nah. SA will be worthy finalists as well.

                      Not so fast ke-mo sah-be

                      Wales have a very good recent record against SA. If they can get by France they will not fear the boks

                      Really?

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                        So refs ...

                        Let's assume the top four refs got the QFs. That's the model they've used post 2007 when they tried to develop a couple of younger refs.

                        Backfired slightly.

                        On that subject we can't get Barnes for this match which, nowadays, is a bit of shame.

                        Leaves Faeces, Nige and Peyper.

                        Distinct preference not to get Faeces.

                        I'll allow Nige his few indiscretions yesterday but either of Nige or Jaco would be ok.

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                          Last RWC, two?, the FInal ref didn;t get a semi final. I think
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                          Yup, Garces and Barnes semi, Lacy 3/4, Nige the big one
                          Not 2011 tho, Joubert got semi and final

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                          • boobooB booboo

                            @canefan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                            @MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                            @Damo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                            @Blackheart said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                            The real final.

                            Nah. SA will be worthy finalists as well.

                            Not so fast ke-mo sah-be

                            Wales have a very good recent record against SA. If they can get by France they will not fear the boks

                            Really?

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                            @booboo 4 straight...or 5/6

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                            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                              @booboo 4 straight...or 5/6

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                              @taniwharugby said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                              @booboo 4 straight...or 5/6

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                              Ok...

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                                next up, England.

                                So with Matt Todd out for this match (apparently will be ok for final if they make it - oh fcuk, and that dreaded other cnut of a match)

                                Assume the same 15 likely to start, and have to think the bench make up wont change greatly either?

                                Either Frizzell or Pat T to come into the bench, meaning if Pat T, SB is loose forward cover, although Pat T power game could be handy v England.

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                                  This one worries me a bit more England will be tougher nut to crack.
                                  For This game The Ref whoever it is may have a big influence.
                                  Eddie Jones will have targeted this game and how to beat us as soon as the WC draw came out.He has already done it to us before in a WC with Australia.
                                  I still believe we will win but am on edge more for this game.
                                  We win this game we win the WC in my opinion

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                                    For the record: I'm supporting you guys.

                                    just threw up in my mouth a little

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                                    @NTA gag reflex? 😁

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                                    • ChrisC Chris

                                      This one worries me a bit more England will be tougher nut to crack.
                                      For This game The Ref whoever it is may have a big influence.
                                      Eddie Jones will have targeted this game and how to beat us as soon as the WC draw came out.He has already done it to us before in a WC with Australia.
                                      I still believe we will win but am on edge more for this game.
                                      We win this game we win the WC in my opinion

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                                      @Chris said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                      Eddie Jones will have targeted this game and how to beat us as soon as the WC draw came out.

                                      While I agree with you in the sense that last week, I wasnt worried about Ireland, but was with England....as to that comment, do you not think our coaches have been working on plans to beat England as well, or were we solely focused on beating Ireland, even though we were previously thought to only be hitting them in the final.

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                                        Frizzel or PT for the bench??

                                        I’d probably go Frizell

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                                        • ChrisC Chris

                                          This one worries me a bit more England will be tougher nut to crack.
                                          For This game The Ref whoever it is may have a big influence.
                                          Eddie Jones will have targeted this game and how to beat us as soon as the WC draw came out.He has already done it to us before in a WC with Australia.
                                          I still believe we will win but am on edge more for this game.
                                          We win this game we win the WC in my opinion

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                                          @Chris said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                          This one worries me a bit more England will be tougher nut to crack.
                                          For This game The Ref whoever it is may have a big influence.
                                          Eddie Jones will have targeted this game and how to beat us as soon as the WC draw came out.He has already done it to us before in a WC with Australia.

                                          No doubt that's true, but we're playing a different game than we were a year ago. So a lot of his research and development will be for naught.

                                          I still believe we will win but am on edge more for this game.
                                          We win this game we win the WC in my opinion

                                          Presuming South Africa get through, we may just be too tired and sore in comparison.

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