Eight Becomes Four
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Both NZ and SA are 1.33 favs. That feels right for SA, but I'd have us closer to 1.60.
If the AB's make to the final, I'd say we would be 1.30 against the Boks and 1.15 v Wales.
Not saying those odds are right, just where I reckon the bookies would pitch it.
I'd have us at 1.60 v the Boks and 1.03 v Wales
(Sorry @MiketheSnow ...)
@voodoo said in Eight Becomes Four:
Both NZ and SA are 1.33 favs. That feels right for SA, but I'd have us closer to 1.60.
If the AB's make to the final, I'd say we would be 1.30 against the Boks and 1.15 v Wales.
Not saying those odds are right, just where I reckon the bookies would pitch it.
I'd have us at 1.60 v the Boks and 1.03 v Wales
(Sorry Mike...)
With who? NZ TAB is always going to be shorter for NZ due to the predilection for NZers to get on NZ.
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@voodoo said in Eight Becomes Four:
Both NZ and SA are 1.33 favs. That feels right for SA, but I'd have us closer to 1.60.
If the AB's make to the final, I'd say we would be 1.30 against the Boks and 1.15 v Wales.
Not saying those odds are right, just where I reckon the bookies would pitch it.
I'd have us at 1.60 v the Boks and 1.03 v Wales
(Sorry Mike...)
With who? NZ TAB is always going to be shorter for NZ due to the predilection for NZers to get on NZ.
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Boks should be nervous. We've never made it to the final without an upset along the way and the quarters all went with the favourites.
Wales have all the major hallmarks of a team ready to pull a major RWC upset... experienced, written off a bit more than they should be, canny coach - except for being Welsh.
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Boks should be nervous. We've never made it to the final without an upset along the way and the quarters all went with the favourites.
Wales have all the major hallmarks of a team ready to pull a major RWC upset... experienced, written off a bit more than they should be, canny coach - except for being Welsh.
@rotated said in Eight Becomes Four:
Boks should be nervous. We've never made it to the final without an upset along the way and the quarters all went with the favourites.
Wales have all the major hallmarks of a team ready to pull a major RWC upset... experienced, written off a bit more than they should be, canny coach - except for being Welsh.
Ermm... why would Wales beating the Boks be an upset?
As @MiketheSnow has pointed out, Wales have beaten SA the last 3 times the teams met.
And Wales were recent world no.1 while the Boks were recent World no.6 or 7.I think the upset would be the Boks beating Wales.
Of course if you're looking for a real upset result, isn't it better to look at the other semi?
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Boks should be nervous. We've never made it to the final without an upset along the way and the quarters all went with the favourites.
Wales have all the major hallmarks of a team ready to pull a major RWC upset... experienced, written off a bit more than they should be, canny coach - except for being Welsh.
@rotated said in Eight Becomes Four:
Boks should be nervous. We've never made it to the final without an upset along the way and the quarters all went with the favourites.
Wales have all the major hallmarks of a team ready to pull a major RWC upset... experienced, written off a bit more than they should be, canny coach - except for being Welsh.
Thankfully we have some canny Kiwis and English to supplement our DNA defficiency
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@rotated said in Eight Becomes Four:
Boks should be nervous. We've never made it to the final without an upset along the way and the quarters all went with the favourites.
Wales have all the major hallmarks of a team ready to pull a major RWC upset... experienced, written off a bit more than they should be, canny coach - except for being Welsh.
Ermm... why would Wales beating the Boks be an upset?
As @MiketheSnow has pointed out, Wales have beaten SA the last 3 times the teams met.
And Wales were recent world no.1 while the Boks were recent World no.6 or 7.I think the upset would be the Boks beating Wales.
Of course if you're looking for a real upset result, isn't it better to look at the other semi?
@Billy-Webb said in Eight Becomes Four:
Ermm... why would Wales beating the Boks be an upset?
Because I can place a bet on Wales at $3.30 to win?
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@Billy-Webb said in Eight Becomes Four:
Ermm... why would Wales beating the Boks be an upset?
Because I can place a bet on Wales at $3.30 to win?
@rotated said in Eight Becomes Four:
@Billy-Webb said in Eight Becomes Four:
Ermm... why would Wales beating the Boks be an upset?
Because I can place a bet on Wales at $3.30 to win?
The bookies have the Boks ahead of Wales?!
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Both teams have been a little poor. Wales looked really tight against France, they really should have put that game away. And SA were brutal in defense, but pretty bloody average in attack, hands were average and Faf's kicking was sub-par.
One of these 2 teams will get it right on the
w/e. My money would be on SA. -
Both teams have been a little poor. Wales looked really tight against France, they really should have put that game away. And SA were brutal in defense, but pretty bloody average in attack, hands were average and Faf's kicking was sub-par.
One of these 2 teams will get it right on the
w/e. My money would be on SA.@voodoo said in Eight Becomes Four:
Both teams have been a little poor. Wales looked really tight against France, they really should have put that game away. And SA were brutal in defense, but pretty bloody average in attack, hands were average and Faf's kicking was sub-par.
One of these 2 teams will get it right on the
w/e. My money would be on SA.And Navidi went off early and J Davies didn't lace up.
Both of those back in and no YC and we're a very different proposition.
As SA know.
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@voodoo said in Eight Becomes Four:
Both teams have been a little poor. Wales looked really tight against France, they really should have put that game away. And SA were brutal in defense, but pretty bloody average in attack, hands were average and Faf's kicking was sub-par.
One of these 2 teams will get it right on the
w/e. My money would be on SA.And Navidi went off early and J Davies didn't lace up.
Both of those back in and no YC and we're a very different proposition.
As SA know.
@MiketheSnow said in Eight Becomes Four:
@voodoo said in Eight Becomes Four:
Both teams have been a little poor. Wales looked really tight against France, they really should have put that game away. And SA were brutal in defense, but pretty bloody average in attack, hands were average and Faf's kicking was sub-par.
One of these 2 teams will get it right on the
w/e. My money would be on SA.And Navidi went off early and J Davies didn't lace up.
Both of those back in and no YC and we're a very different proposition.
As SA know.
Or no RC for France???
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@voodoo said in Eight Becomes Four:
Both teams have been a little poor. Wales looked really tight against France, they really should have put that game away. And SA were brutal in defense, but pretty bloody average in attack, hands were average and Faf's kicking was sub-par.
One of these 2 teams will get it right on the
w/e. My money would be on SA.And Navidi went off early and J Davies didn't lace up.
Both of those back in and no YC and we're a very different proposition.
As SA know.
@MiketheSnow said in Eight Becomes Four:
And Navidi went off early and J Davies didn't lace up.
Both of those back in and no YC and we're a very different proposition.
As SA know.
Navidi is out. Going home.
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South Africa v Wales will he brutal trench warfare, no chance the winner is less softened up than the winner of NZ v England.
South Africa had to do a heap of work last night as well, probably as much as us.
Can't see any real advantage to anyone.
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South Africa v Wales will he brutal trench warfare, no chance the winner is less softened up than the winner of NZ v England.
South Africa had to do a heap of work last night as well, probably as much as us.
Can't see any real advantage to anyone.
@mariner4life said in Eight Becomes Four:
South Africa v Wales will he brutal trench warfare, no chance the winner is less softened up than the winner of NZ v England.
South Africa had to do a heap of work last night as well, probably as much as us.
Can't see any real advantage to anyone.
But the Bok blouses will likely be well rested. Don't expect the ball to go much past Faf.
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@MiketheSnow said in Eight Becomes Four:
And Navidi went off early and J Davies didn't lace up.
Both of those back in and no YC and we're a very different proposition.
As SA know.
Navidi is out. Going home.
@Billy-Webb said in Eight Becomes Four:
@MiketheSnow said in Eight Becomes Four:
And Navidi went off early and J Davies didn't lace up.
Both of those back in and no YC and we're a very different proposition.
As SA know.
Navidi is out. Going home.
Fuck
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@Billy-Webb said in Eight Becomes Four:
@MiketheSnow said in Eight Becomes Four:
And Navidi went off early and J Davies didn't lace up.
Both of those back in and no YC and we're a very different proposition.
As SA know.
Navidi is out. Going home.
Fuck
@MiketheSnow yeah, that's a real shame for Wales. And I say that genuinely even though it helps my Boks. I think Wales have a long-term star there. Kak end to the tournie for the player too.
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@MiketheSnow yeah, that's a real shame for Wales. And I say that genuinely even though it helps my Boks. I think Wales have a long-term star there. Kak end to the tournie for the player too.
@Billy-Webb The word "kak" has to be one the greatest gifts SA has given us. That and "tackies" (or takkies?), and "oke" for the lads.
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Well, if (IF) we manage to negotiate NZ in the semi I am torn as to who I would want in the final. On the one hand I would dearly love for an all NH final and I would also very much like for Wales to get to the final. However, what if we were to lose? Could I take the Celtic backlash for the next 150 years?
and @MiketheSnow Navidi is certainly a loss but Moriarty is a pretty good replacement and more of an out and out 8 (providing he keeps his hands in his pocket that is).
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It's going to be a classic old fashioned traditional Wales v All Blacks final..along the lines of the All Blacks v Lllanelli game in '72 except the All blacks will win 8-3...you heard it here first.
