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RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1)

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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12279547

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      Dunno what happened here, but given that it's a world cup semi final, the way it's been derailed is genuinely worthy of commendation.

      Back to the team:

      I remember Jones first press conference as England boss, and it was about THIS game. It was about the All Blacks in the world cup. His words were all about ensuring don't get sucked into the AB game, play the England game and that is what gives the best opportunity.

      Isn't switching Cane for Barrett, i.e - upping our size, us playing the England game plan?

      Something to mull over.

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        Dunno what happened here, but given that it's a world cup semi final, the way it's been derailed is genuinely worthy of commendation.

        Back to the team:

        I remember Jones first press conference as England boss, and it was about THIS game. It was about the All Blacks in the world cup. His words were all about ensuring don't get sucked into the AB game, play the England game and that is what gives the best opportunity.

        Isn't switching Cane for Barrett, i.e - upping our size, us playing the England game plan?

        Something to mull over.

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        @MajorRage said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

        I remember Jones first press conference as England boss, and it was about THIS game. It was about the All Blacks in the world cup. His words were all about ensuring don't get sucked into the AB game, play the England game and that is what gives the best opportunity.

        The thing is, which AB side do you prepare for? They feel like shapeshifters at the moment, Ireland were chasing ghosts out there, but it wasn't slapdash, it was weirdly structured unstructured play. That Ireland game is going into the AB legendary games

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          I'd like to comment on the rugby but I'm still a bit nauseous after some of those earlier posts.

          Jeez some of you think making clothing out of people is sick. Take a good look at yourselves.

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            Out of interest, and giving the ritual Pommy complaints about NZ raiding the ‘south sea islands’ (despite being an, err, south sea island), how many of their team for this Saturday were actually born in England?

            Billy Vunipola is Australian born of Tongan heritage; Mako Vunipola is NZ-born of Tongan heritage. Tuilagi was born in Samoa. Willi Heinz is from Christchurch. Sam Underhill is American isn’t he?

            Has Nigel Farage approved this squad? Shock horror.

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              Out of interest, and giving the ritual Pommy complaints about NZ raiding the ‘south sea islands’ (despite being an, err, south sea island), how many of their team for this Saturday were actually born in England?

              Billy Vunipola is Australian born of Tongan heritage; Mako Vunipola is NZ-born of Tongan heritage. Tuilagi was born in Samoa. Willi Heinz is from Christchurch. Sam Underhill is American isn’t he?

              Has Nigel Farage approved this squad? Shock horror.

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              @MrDenmore said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

              Out of interest, and giving the ritual Pommy complaints about NZ raiding the ‘south sea islands’ (despite being an, err, south sea island), how many of their team for this Saturday were actually born in England?

              Billy Vunipola is Australian born of Tongan heritage; Mako Vunipola is NZ-born of Tongan heritage. Tuilagi was born in Samoa. Willi Heinz is from Christchurch. Sam Underhill is American isn’t he?

              Has Nigel Farage approved this squad? Shock horror.

              It's a boring argument to be honest, which I think most people are bored of (well, I am anyway).

              They are playing for England, they are England.

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                Out of interest, and giving the ritual Pommy complaints about NZ raiding the ‘south sea islands’ (despite being an, err, south sea island), how many of their team for this Saturday were actually born in England?

                Billy Vunipola is Australian born of Tongan heritage; Mako Vunipola is NZ-born of Tongan heritage. Tuilagi was born in Samoa. Willi Heinz is from Christchurch. Sam Underhill is American isn’t he?

                Has Nigel Farage approved this squad? Shock horror.

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                @MrDenmore said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                Out of interest, and giving the ritual Pommy complaints about NZ raiding the ‘south sea islands’ (despite being an, err, south sea island), how many of their team for this Saturday were actually born in England?

                Billy Vunipola is Australian born of Tongan heritage; Mako Vunipola is NZ-born of Tongan heritage. Tuilagi was born in Samoa. Willi Heinz is from Christchurch. Sam Underhill is American isn’t he?

                Has Nigel Farage approved this squad? Shock horror.

                England have 6 New Zealand 4 born overseas

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                  @MajorRage said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                  I remember Jones first press conference as England boss, and it was about THIS game. It was about the All Blacks in the world cup. His words were all about ensuring don't get sucked into the AB game, play the England game and that is what gives the best opportunity.

                  The thing is, which AB side do you prepare for? They feel like shapeshifters at the moment, Ireland were chasing ghosts out there, but it wasn't slapdash, it was weirdly structured unstructured play. That Ireland game is going into the AB legendary games

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                  @nzzp said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                  @MajorRage said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                  I remember Jones first press conference as England boss, and it was about THIS game. It was about the All Blacks in the world cup. His words were all about ensuring don't get sucked into the AB game, play the England game and that is what gives the best opportunity.

                  The thing is, which AB side do you prepare for? They feel like shapeshifters at the moment, Ireland were chasing ghosts out there, but it wasn't slapdash, it was weirdly structured unstructured play. That Ireland game is going into the AB legendary games

                  Yes, absolutely.

                  That Irish game won't be remembered for shit though if we get bundled out here.

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                  • MajorPomM MajorPom

                    @MrDenmore said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                    Out of interest, and giving the ritual Pommy complaints about NZ raiding the ‘south sea islands’ (despite being an, err, south sea island), how many of their team for this Saturday were actually born in England?

                    Billy Vunipola is Australian born of Tongan heritage; Mako Vunipola is NZ-born of Tongan heritage. Tuilagi was born in Samoa. Willi Heinz is from Christchurch. Sam Underhill is American isn’t he?

                    Has Nigel Farage approved this squad? Shock horror.

                    It's a boring argument to be honest, which I think most people are bored of (well, I am anyway).

                    They are playing for England, they are England.

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                    @MajorRage I think it’s boring too. I’m just pointing out the irony of a country that been lecturing us for years about ‘poaching’ Samoans and Tongans (who are part of community anyway) drift-netting their players from 12,000 miles away while thumping their John Bull drum. Please.

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                    • MrDenmoreM MrDenmore

                      @MajorRage I think it’s boring too. I’m just pointing out the irony of a country that been lecturing us for years about ‘poaching’ Samoans and Tongans (who are part of community anyway) drift-netting their players from 12,000 miles away while thumping their John Bull drum. Please.

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                      @MrDenmore Where you based? If you go off their media and think people on twitter represent the population, you'd genuinely think people were actually interested.

                      The poms are well aware of the irony of their previous poaching claims!

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                      • MajorPomM MajorPom

                        Dunno what happened here, but given that it's a world cup semi final, the way it's been derailed is genuinely worthy of commendation.

                        Back to the team:

                        I remember Jones first press conference as England boss, and it was about THIS game. It was about the All Blacks in the world cup. His words were all about ensuring don't get sucked into the AB game, play the England game and that is what gives the best opportunity.

                        Isn't switching Cane for Barrett, i.e - upping our size, us playing the England game plan?

                        Something to mull over.

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                        So what do we make of bringing back Ford? This points to more kicking for territory but the addition of SB might negate any advantage Jones thought England had in the lineout. Expect plenty of traffic down his channel.

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                          @nzzp said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                          @MajorRage said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                          I remember Jones first press conference as England boss, and it was about THIS game. It was about the All Blacks in the world cup. His words were all about ensuring don't get sucked into the AB game, play the England game and that is what gives the best opportunity.

                          The thing is, which AB side do you prepare for? They feel like shapeshifters at the moment, Ireland were chasing ghosts out there, but it wasn't slapdash, it was weirdly structured unstructured play. That Ireland game is going into the AB legendary games

                          Yes, absolutely.

                          That Irish game won't be remembered for shit though if we get bundled out here.

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                          @MajorRage said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                          @nzzp said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                          @MajorRage said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                          I remember Jones first press conference as England boss, and it was about THIS game. It was about the All Blacks in the world cup. His words were all about ensuring don't get sucked into the AB game, play the England game and that is what gives the best opportunity.

                          The thing is, which AB side do you prepare for? They feel like shapeshifters at the moment, Ireland were chasing ghosts out there, but it wasn't slapdash, it was weirdly structured unstructured play. That Ireland game is going into the AB legendary games

                          Yes, absolutely.

                          That Irish game won't be remembered for shit though if we get bundled out here.

                          Exactly , I remember sitting in the crowd watching us put in a really good display beating South Africa in the quarter final in 03. No one remembers that game now.

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                            I’m in Sydney. In truth, if it’s going to go the way of football where players go where the money is, it won’t be really about national pride anymore. I find it hard to believe a team is ‘England’ when half of them came from elsewhere.

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                              Oh, and their coached by an Australian and a Kiwi. Cue up ‘The White Cliffs of Drover’.

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                                I’m in Sydney. In truth, if it’s going to go the way of football where players go where the money is, it won’t be really about national pride anymore. I find it hard to believe a team is ‘England’ when half of them came from elsewhere.

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                                @MrDenmore said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                In truth, if it’s going to go the way of football where players go where the money is, it won’t be really about national pride anymore. I find it hard to believe a team is ‘England’ when half of them came from elsewhere.

                                I think that is where Pichot was going with the 5 year residency.

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                                  Wow @Luigi and @BartMan both turn up in the same week. Is there a game on or something?

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                                    Wow @Luigi and @BartMan both turn up in the same week. Is there a game on or something?

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                                    @JC said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                    Wow @Luigi and @BartMan both turn up in the same week. Is there a game on or something?

                                    Luigi = Eddie jones

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                                      I wonder if Eddie is pushing his luck with May’s hammy injury. I guess he has to roll the dice but as good as Jonathan Joseph and Henry Slade are they are both genuine midfielders aren’t they? I know Slade can play fullback but is he really a world class back 3 player?

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                                        I wonder if Eddie is pushing his luck with May’s hammy injury. I guess he has to roll the dice but as good as Jonathan Joseph and Henry Slade are they are both genuine midfielders aren’t they? I know Slade can play fullback but is he really a world class back 3 player?

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                                        @JC said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                        I wonder if Eddie is pushing his luck with May’s hammy injury. I guess he has to roll the dice but as good as Jonathan Joseph and Henry Slade are they are both genuine midfielders aren’t they? I know Slade can play fullback but is he really a world class back 3 player?

                                        Surprsied Nowell wasn't on the bench

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                                          @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                          @jegga wait...y fronts?

                                          Hey at least its not a g banger.

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                                          @jegga said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                          @Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                          @jegga wait...y fronts?

                                          Hey at least its not a g banger.

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