RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1)
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@Kruse said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@PN Well, one guy came out of that looking like a complete twat, and one guy came out sounding like a decent bloke.
Unfortunately... which one does everybody think is going to be offered the more work providing "commentary" and "opinion" pieces?It works because both have different opinions expressed in the same show.
And Haskell has got an MMA career to big up. Hence the 'it's on' stance.
His take on Peyper's standing down is spot on.
@MiketheSnow what's his stance on Peyper?
I don't think it really matters how he interprets it, that's up to him. If that's how he wants to "use" it then go for it, I doubt it ever really worked out well for him. I think he's probably just trying to get a laugh though.
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@MiketheSnow what's his stance on Peyper?
I don't think it really matters how he interprets it, that's up to him. If that's how he wants to "use" it then go for it, I doubt it ever really worked out well for him. I think he's probably just trying to get a laugh though.
@Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@MiketheSnow what's his stance on Peyper?
I don't think it really matters how he interprets it, that's up to him. If that's how he wants to "use" it then go for it, I doubt it ever really worked out well for him. I think he's probably just trying to get a laugh though.
Supports Peyper 100%
Says rugby is heading in the wrong direction.
https://www.facebook.com/www.JOE.co.uk/videos/537592407000842/
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Slightly different take.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12279198
@Bones will be howls and wails of disrespect for sure!
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@Bones said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@MiketheSnow what's his stance on Peyper?
I don't think it really matters how he interprets it, that's up to him. If that's how he wants to "use" it then go for it, I doubt it ever really worked out well for him. I think he's probably just trying to get a laugh though.
Supports Peyper 100%
Says rugby is heading in the wrong direction.
https://www.facebook.com/www.JOE.co.uk/videos/537592407000842/
@MiketheSnow yeah can't argue with that!
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Best thing about this England campaign is not seeing & hearing John Inverdale.
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Why do they never make journalists speak into a mic??
Journalist: Mumble mumble mumble
SH: Clear and succinct reply
Journalist: Mumble mumble mumble@Billy-Tell said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
Why do they never make journalists speak into a mic??
Journalist: Mumble mumble mumble
SH: Clear and succinct reply
Journalist: Mumble mumble mumbleI think they are using a mic, it’s just that most media outlets don’t have access to this audio, they just have their audio record from the table where the coach is. A way around this would be to have a second audio recording device next to the PA speaker and mix them in post.
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just watching the Hansen presser below. He's a legend, relaxed in his own skin, playing the media, honest, disarming and a great advertisement for rugby. I'll miss him when he's finished. Dead set legend, no matter what happens from here.
@nzzp said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
just watching the Hansen presser below. He's a legend, relaxed in his own skin, playing the media, honest, disarming and a great advertisement for rugby. I'll miss him when he's finished. Dead set legend, no matter what happens from here.
I reckon he should be the PM.
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Eddie has been preparing to beat the All Blacks for the past 4 years.....but the trouble is, he's prepared for the 2018 team. He's worked out how to blunt SBW's penetration at 12, how to restrict Beauden's space at 10, how to exploit Franks' lack of mobility at prop, and how to test Ben Smith at 15 under the high ball.
The trouble is we're a slippery shapeshifting* ninja of a team that has evolved massively in the last 12 months, even the last 6 months! No opposition coach, not even Golden Eddie, can come up with a new plan and implement it in such a short timeframe. Credit to Shag and the team for being brave and changing things up. Beaunga, two brand new wingers, neither of Crotty/SBW starting, and Jordie coming on at 60mins is a fucking nightmare for the opposition because it's SO different to what they thought they'd be dealing with. Which is why we pump them tomorrow, and look great doing it
*borrowed that from another poster, but great word for it!
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So...who is under the most pressure..the ABS to be the triple holders or Eddie to win his first RWC as coach and for England to prove they are not one trick ponies...???? He claims he has no pressure whatsoever...
Nup sorry Steady Eddie...not buying it.
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So...who is under the most pressure..the ABS to be the triple holders or Eddie to win his first RWC as coach and for England to prove they are not one trick ponies...???? He claims he has no pressure whatsoever...
Nup sorry Steady Eddie...not buying it.
@Blackheart said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
So...who is under the most pressure..the ABS to be the triple holders or Eddie to win his first RWC as coach and for England to prove they are not one trick ponies...???? He claims he has no pressure whatsoever...
Nup sorry Steady Eddie...not buying it.
Cough. Cough. 2007.
And the one trick is.... what?
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@Blackheart said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
So...who is under the most pressure..the ABS to be the triple holders or Eddie to win his first RWC as coach and for England to prove they are not one trick ponies...???? He claims he has no pressure whatsoever...
Nup sorry Steady Eddie...not buying it.
Cough. Cough. 2007.
And the one trick is.... what?
@Catogrande said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Blackheart said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
So...who is under the most pressure..the ABS to be the triple holders or Eddie to win his first RWC as coach and for England to prove they are not one trick ponies...???? He claims he has no pressure whatsoever...
Nup sorry Steady Eddie...not buying it.
Cough. Cough. 2007.
And the one trick is.... what?
Does assistant count?
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So...who is under the most pressure..the ABS to be the triple holders or Eddie to win his first RWC as coach and for England to prove they are not one trick ponies...???? He claims he has no pressure whatsoever...
Nup sorry Steady Eddie...not buying it.
@Blackheart said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
So...who is under the most pressure..the ABS to be the triple holders or Eddie to win his first RWC as coach and for England to prove they are not one trick ponies...???? He claims he has no pressure whatsoever...
Nup sorry Steady Eddie...not buying it.
ABs by a mile
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@Catogrande said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Blackheart said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
So...who is under the most pressure..the ABS to be the triple holders or Eddie to win his first RWC as coach and for England to prove they are not one trick ponies...???? He claims he has no pressure whatsoever...
Nup sorry Steady Eddie...not buying it.
Cough. Cough. 2007.
And the one trick is.... what?
Does assistant count?
@booboo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Catogrande said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Blackheart said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
So...who is under the most pressure..the ABS to be the triple holders or Eddie to win his first RWC as coach and for England to prove they are not one trick ponies...???? He claims he has no pressure whatsoever...
Nup sorry Steady Eddie...not buying it.
Cough. Cough. 2007.
And the one trick is.... what?
Does assistant count?
I'm pretty sure it's on his CV
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@Catogrande said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Blackheart said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
So...who is under the most pressure..the ABS to be the triple holders or Eddie to win his first RWC as coach and for England to prove they are not one trick ponies...???? He claims he has no pressure whatsoever...
Nup sorry Steady Eddie...not buying it.
Cough. Cough. 2007.
And the one trick is.... what?
Does assistant count?
@booboo said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Catogrande said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@Blackheart said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
So...who is under the most pressure..the ABS to be the triple holders or Eddie to win his first RWC as coach and for England to prove they are not one trick ponies...???? He claims he has no pressure whatsoever...
Nup sorry Steady Eddie...not buying it.
Cough. Cough. 2007.
And the one trick is.... what?
Does assistant count?
No it doesn’t, because if it did 2003 would’ve been very different...
#blamethejourney
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@kiwiinmelb said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
Much discussion on the starting forward pack ,
How does everyone expect the bench ( forwards) to be used ,Are we going to close the game with the two 7s ? how does pat t get used ? He does provide good impact , I’m sure they would like to utilise that in some capacity
We will have a very significant height advantage at the lineout - where we have four genuine lineout jumpers - where England only has two - and Itoje is a pretty short lock. If we can make this count, we could push Eddie into having to sub one of his fast flankers early and push Itoje to blindside. IF we're able to turn our height advantage at the lineout into steals and everything else is going well, then I think the introduction of Cane (for Barrett) will be delayed - maybe to around 60 minutes - otherwise they may make that change at halftime. I'll be surprised if Patty T. gets more than 15 minutes - in the event of an early injury to one of our starting locks, I think they'd shift Barrett to lock initially and bring on Cane.
In the scrum, I think my big worry would be an early injury to Joe Moody - our bench props' scrumming worries me, but if Nepo were to go down early, I'd be inclined to send Ofa out to play tighthead, which would be solid. I'd be really worried if Ta'avao was asked to play 60+ minutes.
Aside from that, we need to knock their big ball carriers down quickly, be very disciplined and deny Farrell opportunities to push the scoreboard along, and be a bit wary of interception opportunities with big, wide skip passes.
Whomever gets ahead with any sort of buffer is likely to be very hard to peg back - so lets hope it's us.
I've really got no idea how this game will play out - especially if we don't dominate their lineout. But, if we do - I think that should be a big step towards us winning.
@Chris-B said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@kiwiinmelb said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
Much discussion on the starting forward pack ,
How does everyone expect the bench ( forwards) to be used ,Are we going to close the game with the two 7s ? how does pat t get used ? He does provide good impact , I’m sure they would like to utilise that in some capacity
We will have a very significant height advantage at the lineout - where we have four genuine lineout jumpers - where England only has two - and Itoje is a pretty short lock. If we can make this count, we could push Eddie into having to sub one of his fast flankers early and push Itoje to blindside. IF we're able to turn our height advantage at the lineout into steals and everything else is going well, then I think the introduction of Cane (for Barrett) will be delayed - maybe to around 60 minutes - otherwise they may make that change at halftime. I'll be surprised if Patty T. gets more than 15 minutes - in the event of an early injury to one of our starting locks, I think they'd shift Barrett to lock initially and bring on Cane.
In the scrum, I think my big worry would be an early injury to Joe Moody - our bench props' scrumming worries me, but if Nepo were to go down early, I'd be inclined to send Ofa out to play tighthead, which would be solid. I'd be really worried if Ta'avao was asked to play 60+ minutes.
Aside from that, we need to knock their big ball carriers down quickly, be very disciplined and deny Farrell opportunities to push the scoreboard along, and be a bit wary of interception opportunities with big, wide skip passes.
Whomever gets ahead with any sort of buffer is likely to be very hard to peg back - so lets hope it's us.
I've really got no idea how this game will play out - especially if we don't dominate their lineout. But, if we do - I think that should be a big step towards us winning.
Coles and Marler better scrummagers than starting props.
See from Press Con Patty T is to cover lock.
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@taniwharugby said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@sparky said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
End of the golden era
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Last couple of years has been anything but golden...been superb mixed with average
Still been World Champions and (except for two weeks) number one in the world.
But I take your point, signs of a slight decline and gaps in the armour have been there for a little while. I think Eddie has been watching and taking notes.
England by 6. Some else to get their hands on the
.@sparky said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@taniwharugby said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
@sparky said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
End of the golden era
?
Last couple of years has been anything but golden...been superb mixed with average
Still been World Champions and (except for two weeks) number one in the world.
But I take your point, signs of a slight decline and gaps in the armour have been there for a little while. I think Eddie has been watching and taking notes.
England by 6. Some else to get their hands on the
.I expect England to rely heavily on a kick and chase game. They are very disciplined in this so heroics in the 22 to be discouraged.
Also thrive off multiple drives, in particular using Vunipola Bros, before going wide.
Challenge for ABs will be not to play too much football, While still remaining alert to the inevitable opportunities which will arise.
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Well if we lose, silver lining. Foster won't be new head coach....
And of course there's chinks in the armour, but the armour is constantly evolving. I mean, I haven't seen the All Black forwards play that directly since first Lions test last series.
And as an aside, all this 'knowing how to beat All Blacks' shit past players are spouting.
Lion's second test last series? So they need to get an AB sent off after 24 minutes, that's a tough game plan to implement on a regular basis methinks!
Boers last year? Get the ABs to gift you 21 points and then hang on!!I think the only real beating up of the ABs the last few years is Paddies in Chicago and Convicts in Perth. The rest of the losses are just the ABs running out of time to win
@BartMan said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
Well if we lose, silver lining. Foster won't be new head coach....
And of course there's chinks in the armour, but the armour is constantly evolving. I mean, I haven't seen the All Black forwards play that directly since first Lions test last series.
And as an aside, all this 'knowing how to beat All Blacks' shit past players are spouting.
Lion's second test last series? So they need to get an AB sent off after 24 minutes, that's a tough game plan to implement on a regular basis methinks!
Boers last year? Get the ABs to gift you 21 points and then hang on!!I think the only real beating up of the ABs the last few years is Paddies in Chicago and Convicts in Perth. The rest of the losses are just the ABs running out of time to win
In Hong Kong airport sweating on my flight to Tokyo!
That Lions second test was a great performance by ABs. Seven man pack neutralised Lions eight. Only turned to custard when Sean O'B took out Waisake with a swinger. Red there and series over.
And in Chicago if late pass, from Squire I think, stuck we steal that one.
No complaints about Perth.
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Eddie has been preparing to beat the All Blacks for the past 4 years.....but the trouble is, he's prepared for the 2018 team. He's worked out how to blunt SBW's penetration at 12, how to restrict Beauden's space at 10, how to exploit Franks' lack of mobility at prop, and how to test Ben Smith at 15 under the high ball.
The trouble is we're a slippery shapeshifting* ninja of a team that has evolved massively in the last 12 months, even the last 6 months! No opposition coach, not even Golden Eddie, can come up with a new plan and implement it in such a short timeframe. Credit to Shag and the team for being brave and changing things up. Beaunga, two brand new wingers, neither of Crotty/SBW starting, and Jordie coming on at 60mins is a fucking nightmare for the opposition because it's SO different to what they thought they'd be dealing with. Which is why we pump them tomorrow, and look great doing it
*borrowed that from another poster, but great word for it!
@TeWaio said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
Eddie has been preparing to beat the All Blacks for the past 4 years.....but the trouble is, he's prepared for the 2018 team. He's worked out how to blunt SBW's penetration at 12, how to restrict Beauden's space at 10, how to exploit Franks' lack of mobility at prop, and how to test Ben Smith at 15 under the high ball.
The trouble is we're a slippery shapeshifting* ninja of a team that has evolved massively in the last 12 months, even the last 6 months! No opposition coach, not even Golden Eddie, can come up with a new plan and implement it in such a short timeframe. Credit to Shag and the team for being brave and changing things up. Beaunga, two brand new wingers, neither of Crotty/SBW starting, and Jordie coming on at 60mins is a fucking nightmare for the opposition because it's SO different to what they thought they'd be dealing with. Which is why we pump them tomorrow, and look great doing it
*borrowed that from another poster, but great word for it!
Reflecting on the match 23, interesting that Rieko and Bender have never recovered from Perth. But perhaps the biggest surprise to me is that Crotty doesn't seem to have had a look in, despite not that long ago being probably first choice midfielder?
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@TeWaio said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):
Eddie has been preparing to beat the All Blacks for the past 4 years.....but the trouble is, he's prepared for the 2018 team. He's worked out how to blunt SBW's penetration at 12, how to restrict Beauden's space at 10, how to exploit Franks' lack of mobility at prop, and how to test Ben Smith at 15 under the high ball.
The trouble is we're a slippery shapeshifting* ninja of a team that has evolved massively in the last 12 months, even the last 6 months! No opposition coach, not even Golden Eddie, can come up with a new plan and implement it in such a short timeframe. Credit to Shag and the team for being brave and changing things up. Beaunga, two brand new wingers, neither of Crotty/SBW starting, and Jordie coming on at 60mins is a fucking nightmare for the opposition because it's SO different to what they thought they'd be dealing with. Which is why we pump them tomorrow, and look great doing it
*borrowed that from another poster, but great word for it!
Reflecting on the match 23, interesting that Rieko and Bender have never recovered from Perth. But perhaps the biggest surprise to me is that Crotty doesn't seem to have had a look in, despite not that long ago being probably first choice midfielder?
