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RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1)

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    The Eagle
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    Don’t be too hard on your blokes. They tried as hard as they could. The difficulty with being consistently the best team in the world is that it feels doubly crap when you lose...although, how would I know.

    PS good to see you fellas

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    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

      @Chris-B said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

      we let Itoje just fucking kill us - seemed to be winning uncontested ball on their throw and getting up in front of our jumpers on ours -despite that we supposedly had four jumpers and they had two.

      And we let that happen time and time again. Did we ever throw it to the front?

      Sort of thing indicated lack of leadership.

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      @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

      @Chris-B said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

      we let Itoje just fucking kill us - seemed to be winning uncontested ball on their throw and getting up in front of our jumpers on ours -despite that we supposedly had four jumpers and they had two.

      And we let that happen time and time again. Did we ever throw it to the front?

      Sort of thing indicated lack of leadership.

      Yeah - perhaps - but, the thing is that you want deep ball,if you can get it and throwing deep to Sam Whitelock is usually money-ball.

      We just got skinned.

      Out-muscled up front and their backs showed invention at least on a par with ours.

      Just not good enough and to be honest, we don't have any players that would have made a difference tonight.

      What we planned to do we couldn't execute.

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      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

        @Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

        we have a much better chance of a win if he starts.

        He's the glue in the low numbers

        Bit like Ringo Starr's drumming. Underrated and it's only when someone else tries to play like him and can't, you realize how bloody good he actually is.

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        @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

        @Nepia said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

        we have a much better chance of a win if he starts.

        He's the glue in the low numbers

        Bit like Ringo Starr's drumming. Underrated and it's only when someone else tries to play like him and can't, you realize how bloody good he actually is.

        Thought Coles had a very good game when he came on.

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        • T The Eagle

          Don’t be too hard on your blokes. They tried as hard as they could. The difficulty with being consistently the best team in the world is that it feels doubly crap when you lose...although, how would I know.

          PS good to see you fellas

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          Victor Meldrew
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          @The-Eagle

          And continuing the trend of long-lost posters returning to the Fern... 👍

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          • DuluthD Duluth

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            #1722

            @Duluth "A disrespectful question", "If you want to go outside I'll give you a rugby education".

            Shut the fuck up you arrogant prick. You lost, the team was shit, you wear it.

            He has the tamest press in the world normally. Oh no, someone asked him if the All Blacks "turned up with the right mindset?" They didn't, they choked under the pressure.

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              @Duluth said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

              That was hard to watch.
              Read’s obvious disappointment and hurt made me want them to stop asking him questions.

              Bad luck to the ABs. You ran into an England team that played the best I have seen from them in a decade or more.

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              • T The Eagle

                Don’t be too hard on your blokes. They tried as hard as they could. The difficulty with being consistently the best team in the world is that it feels doubly crap when you lose...although, how would I know.

                PS good to see you fellas

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                @The-Eagle said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                Don’t be too hard on your blokes. They tried as hard as they could. The difficulty with being consistently the best team in the world is that it feels doubly crap when you lose...although, how would I know.

                PS good to see you fellas

                Welcome back, even if briefly.

                We haven't seen an ABs team schooled like that for a long time. Enjoy!

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                • T The Eagle

                  Don’t be too hard on your blokes. They tried as hard as they could. The difficulty with being consistently the best team in the world is that it feels doubly crap when you lose...although, how would I know.

                  PS good to see you fellas

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                  @The-Eagle said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                  Don’t be too hard on your blokes. They tried as hard as they could. The difficulty with being consistently the best team in the world is that it feels doubly crap when you lose...although, how would I know.

                  PS good to see you fellas

                  Let me guess you googled “mourning rugby tragics” and found your way back.

                  Congrats on the win mate.

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                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                    Well done England and Eddie Jones. Very good execution to keep us out of the game.

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                    @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                    Well done England and Eddie Jones. Very good execution to keep us out of the game.

                    What he said

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                      Victor Meldrew
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                      Well, I don't really feel too down - unlike 2007. Beaten by a far better team on the day. Still think we could have won it after Ardie scored but dumb penalties and mistakes stuffed up our chances.

                      Off to pull the swing-arm off the Suzuki and prep for a re-spray.

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                      • TimT Tim

                        @Duluth "A disrespectful question", "If you want to go outside I'll give you a rugby education".

                        Shut the fuck up you arrogant prick. You lost, the team was shit, you wear it.

                        He has the tamest press in the world normally. Oh no, someone asked him if the All Blacks "turned up with the right mindset?" They didn't, they choked under the pressure.

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                        @Tim said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                        @Duluth "A disrespectful question", "If you want to go outside I'll give you a rugby education".

                        Shut the fuck up you arrogant prick. You lost, the team was shit, you wear it.

                        He has the tamest press in the world normally. Oh no, someone asked him if the All Blacks "turned up with the right mindset?" They didn't, they choked under the pressure.

                        What the hell was that?

                        He had just said he asked them to get more desperate and hungrier at halftime. He has been pretty open in saying they haven't turned up with the right mindset in the past when they have been tipped over - as recently as Perth. We've lost RWC semi-finals on the back of not turning up mentally - 1999 being the obvious example.

                        Reasonable question - especially given the first two minutes. Crazy response - but in a way I like it in a way because all his other responses seem somewhat ambivalent.

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                        • SnowyS Snowy

                          @Duluth said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                          @Will_G said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                          Itoje

                          Oh, hi

                          What brings you back here?

                          I believe Blackadder called those types "gloaters". There are other words of course.

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                          @Snowy Who's gloating? It's a fair call to say Itoje was MOTM.

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                            @Snowy Who's gloating? It's a fair call to say Itoje was MOTM.

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                            Snowy
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                            @Will_G It was a reference to you suddenly showing up.
                            Itoje was indeed MOM for me.

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                              @Will_G It was a reference to you suddenly showing up.
                              Itoje was indeed MOM for me.

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                              @Will_G The eagle, Dodge and various others who haven't been around for years will no doubt appear as well.

                              Congrats by the way. Completely dominant performance.

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                                England were very hungry and organized.
                                We weren't.

                                I don't think any of the players we didn't play - Reiko, Ben Smith etc. would have made a fig of difference.

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                                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                    @Devon-Kiwi said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                    Like you guys have been a rabid ABs fan all of my life and have never ever missed a game

                                    Have to ask, did Bob Deans score or not?

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                                    @ACT-Crusader said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                    @Devon-Kiwi said in RWC: England v New Zealand (SF1):

                                    Like you guys have been a rabid ABs fan all of my life and have never ever missed a game

                                    Have to ask, did Bob Deans score or not?

                                    Of course, he bloody scored.

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                                    • F Frank

                                      England were very hungry and organized.
                                      We weren't.

                                      I don't think any of the players we didn't play - Reiko, Ben Smith etc. would have made a fig of difference.

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                                      @Frank

                                      I honestly don’t think it was a case of NZ not being “hungry” enough.
                                      England simply didn’t allow you to play. They were that good on the night.

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                                        #1736

                                        Five missed tackles by Kieran Read. Well off his game tonight.

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                                        • SnowyS Snowy

                                          @Will_G The eagle, Dodge and various others who haven't been around for years will no doubt appear as well.

                                          Congrats by the way. Completely dominant performance.

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                                          @Snowy No gloating from me. England could easily get hammered next weekend for one plus that's only 2 wins out of the last 15 for England (and everyone knows the ABs were sick in 2012 too).

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