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RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales

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  • TimT Tim

    Savea, though, looks a likely absence with a knee meniscus problem. Otherwise everyone is available with Todd back on deck after a shoulder issue ruled him out for the semifinal. The team will be named on Wednesday.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116978291/rugby-world-cup-ian-foster-still-keen-on-top-all-blacks-job-but-focus-on-wales

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    @Tim said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

    Savea, though, looks a likely absence with a knee meniscus problem. Otherwise everyone is available with Todd back on deck after a shoulder issue ruled him out for the semifinal. The team will be named on Wednesday.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116978291/rugby-world-cup-ian-foster-still-keen-on-top-all-blacks-job-but-focus-on-wales

    The worst part of that article is that Foster still intends to go for the main job. FFS Tenure does not always mean talent, the amount of people who still get promoted based on age (perceived experience) over skill is astounding, NZ rugby better take note.

    Fresh blood please

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      Sparky's team (assuming Ardie is out hurt) for Bronze Medal match:

      Moody, Coles, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuitupolou, Cane, Todd, Frizzell, Weber, Mo'unga, Ioane, Crotty, Goodhue, Reece, BFA

      Coltman, Moli, Ofa T, Retallick, Read, A Smith, B Barrett, SBW

      Gives more of the squad game time. Gets the players who finishing up a chance to be on the field at the end.

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        I was looking at the other 3rd/4th games the ABs have played and they did make quite a few changes from the SF team.

        I am expecting BFA and Ioane to be selected.

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        • sparkyS sparky

          Sparky's team (assuming Ardie is out hurt) for Bronze Medal match:

          Moody, Coles, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuitupolou, Cane, Todd, Frizzell, Weber, Mo'unga, Ioane, Crotty, Goodhue, Reece, BFA

          Coltman, Moli, Ofa T, Retallick, Read, A Smith, B Barrett, SBW

          Gives more of the squad game time. Gets the players who finishing up a chance to be on the field at the end.

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          @sparky said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

          Sparky's team (assuming Ardie is out hurt) for Bronze Medal match:

          Moody, Coles, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuitupolou, Cane, Todd, Frizzell, Weber, Mo'unga, Ioane, Crotty, Goodhue, Reece, BFA

          Coltman, Moli, Ofa T, Retallick, Read, A Smith, B Barrett, SBW

          Gives more of the squad game time. Gets the players who finishing up a chance to be on the field at the end.

          Shag can't afford to make it a thank you & farewell selection.

          Shag can afford to make it a thank you & farewell selection.

          All depends on which colour shirt you support.

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          • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

            @sparky said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

            Sparky's team (assuming Ardie is out hurt) for Bronze Medal match:

            Moody, Coles, Laulala, S Whitelock, Tuitupolou, Cane, Todd, Frizzell, Weber, Mo'unga, Ioane, Crotty, Goodhue, Reece, BFA

            Coltman, Moli, Ofa T, Retallick, Read, A Smith, B Barrett, SBW

            Gives more of the squad game time. Gets the players who finishing up a chance to be on the field at the end.

            Shag can't afford to make it a thank you & farewell selection.

            Shag can afford to make it a thank you & farewell selection.

            All depends on which colour shirt you support.

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            @MiketheSnow Whatever team is picked by Hansen, the forward pack will need to redeem itself and perform much better at the breakdown.

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            • sparkyS sparky

              @MiketheSnow Whatever team is picked by Hansen, the forward pack will need to redeem itself and perform much better at the breakdown.

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              @sparky said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

              @MiketheSnow Whatever team is picked by Hansen, the forward pack will need to redeem itself and perform much better at the breakdown.

              We'll be fielding Neil Jenkins and a few supporters the number of injuries we've got.

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              • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                @sparky said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                @MiketheSnow Whatever team is picked by Hansen, the forward pack will need to redeem itself and perform much better at the breakdown.

                We'll be fielding Neil Jenkins and a few supporters the number of injuries we've got.

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                @MiketheSnow said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                We'll be fielding Neil Jenkins and a few supporters the number of injuries we've got.

                Is it that bad Mike?
                If so, it's a pity for Wales who of the 2 teams, probably have the most to gain from this match. Swansong for Gatland (and Wyn Jones I think?), bronze medal and a first ever victory over the AB's.
                Hansen would normally have been tempted to give some of his fringe players a run. But the risk for NZ is that they lose 2 in a row at a RWC (last achieved in 99 I think?) and that they give up their record against Wales.

                Welsh fans likely to be the more chilled of the two sets i would think come Friday.

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                  Yep.

                  Liam Williams, George North gone in the backs.

                  Jonathan Davies and Hadleigh Parkes broken but playing.

                  Not many scoring opportunities if these four aren't firing.

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                  • Billy WebbB Billy Webb

                    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                    We'll be fielding Neil Jenkins and a few supporters the number of injuries we've got.

                    Is it that bad Mike?
                    If so, it's a pity for Wales who of the 2 teams, probably have the most to gain from this match. Swansong for Gatland (and Wyn Jones I think?), bronze medal and a first ever victory over the AB's.
                    Hansen would normally have been tempted to give some of his fringe players a run. But the risk for NZ is that they lose 2 in a row at a RWC (last achieved in 99 I think?) and that they give up their record against Wales.

                    Welsh fans likely to be the more chilled of the two sets i would think come Friday.

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                    @Billy-Webb said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                    @MiketheSnow said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                    We'll be fielding Neil Jenkins and a few supporters the number of injuries we've got.

                    Is it that bad Mike?
                    If so, it's a pity for Wales who of the 2 teams, probably have the most to gain from this match. Swansong for Gatland (and Wyn Jones I think?), bronze medal and a first ever victory over the AB's....

                    I wouldn't bet on that one, Jones (it's Alan-Wyn, not Wyn-Jones BTW) has already had more swan songs than Sinatra and he keeps coming back for more. Legend or nutter? Bit of both I guess.

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                    • CatograndeC Catogrande

                      @Billy-Webb said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                      @MiketheSnow said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                      We'll be fielding Neil Jenkins and a few supporters the number of injuries we've got.

                      Is it that bad Mike?
                      If so, it's a pity for Wales who of the 2 teams, probably have the most to gain from this match. Swansong for Gatland (and Wyn Jones I think?), bronze medal and a first ever victory over the AB's....

                      I wouldn't bet on that one, Jones (it's Alan-Wyn, not Wyn-Jones BTW) has already had more swan songs than Sinatra and he keeps coming back for more. Legend or nutter? Bit of both I guess.

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                      @Catogrande said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                      @Billy-Webb said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                      @MiketheSnow said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                      We'll be fielding Neil Jenkins and a few supporters the number of injuries we've got.

                      Is it that bad Mike?
                      If so, it's a pity for Wales who of the 2 teams, probably have the most to gain from this match. Swansong for Gatland (and Wyn Jones I think?), bronze medal and a first ever victory over the AB's....

                      I wouldn't bet on that one, Jones (it's Alan-Wyn, not Wyn-Jones BTW) has already had more swan songs than Sinatra and he keeps coming back for more. Legend or nutter? Bit of both I guess.

                      Ah. Thank you for pointing that out. I genuinely didn't know.
                      I consider myself suitably schooled and will administer the requisite uppercuts accordingly.

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                      • CatograndeC Catogrande

                        @Billy-Webb said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                        @MiketheSnow said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                        We'll be fielding Neil Jenkins and a few supporters the number of injuries we've got.

                        Is it that bad Mike?
                        If so, it's a pity for Wales who of the 2 teams, probably have the most to gain from this match. Swansong for Gatland (and Wyn Jones I think?), bronze medal and a first ever victory over the AB's....

                        I wouldn't bet on that one, Jones (it's Alan-Wyn, not Wyn-Jones BTW) has already had more swan songs than Sinatra and he keeps coming back for more. Legend or nutter? Bit of both I guess.

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                        @Catogrande said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                        @Billy-Webb said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                        @MiketheSnow said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                        We'll be fielding Neil Jenkins and a few supporters the number of injuries we've got.

                        Is it that bad Mike?
                        If so, it's a pity for Wales who of the 2 teams, probably have the most to gain from this match. Swansong for Gatland (and Wyn Jones I think?), bronze medal and a first ever victory over the AB's....

                        I wouldn't bet on that one, Jones (it's Alan-Wyn, not Wyn-Jones BTW) has already had more swan songs than Sinatra and he keeps coming back for more. Legend or nutter? Bit of both I guess.

                        Hhhhhmmmmmm

                        It's Alun Wyn Jones

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                        • Billy WebbB Billy Webb

                          @Catogrande said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                          @Billy-Webb said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                          @MiketheSnow said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                          We'll be fielding Neil Jenkins and a few supporters the number of injuries we've got.

                          Is it that bad Mike?
                          If so, it's a pity for Wales who of the 2 teams, probably have the most to gain from this match. Swansong for Gatland (and Wyn Jones I think?), bronze medal and a first ever victory over the AB's....

                          I wouldn't bet on that one, Jones (it's Alan-Wyn, not Wyn-Jones BTW) has already had more swan songs than Sinatra and he keeps coming back for more. Legend or nutter? Bit of both I guess.

                          Ah. Thank you for pointing that out. I genuinely didn't know.
                          I consider myself suitably schooled and will administer the requisite uppercuts accordingly.

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                          @Billy-Webb Every day's a school day :winking_face:

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                          • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                            @Catogrande said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                            @Billy-Webb said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                            @MiketheSnow said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                            We'll be fielding Neil Jenkins and a few supporters the number of injuries we've got.

                            Is it that bad Mike?
                            If so, it's a pity for Wales who of the 2 teams, probably have the most to gain from this match. Swansong for Gatland (and Wyn Jones I think?), bronze medal and a first ever victory over the AB's....

                            I wouldn't bet on that one, Jones (it's Alan-Wyn, not Wyn-Jones BTW) has already had more swan songs than Sinatra and he keeps coming back for more. Legend or nutter? Bit of both I guess.

                            Hhhhhmmmmmm

                            It's Alun Wyn Jones

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                            @MiketheSnow said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                            @Catogrande said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                            @Billy-Webb said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                            @MiketheSnow said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                            We'll be fielding Neil Jenkins and a few supporters the number of injuries we've got.

                            Is it that bad Mike?
                            If so, it's a pity for Wales who of the 2 teams, probably have the most to gain from this match. Swansong for Gatland (and Wyn Jones I think?), bronze medal and a first ever victory over the AB's....

                            I wouldn't bet on that one, Jones (it's Alan-Wyn, not Wyn-Jones BTW) has already had more swan songs than Sinatra and he keeps coming back for more. Legend or nutter? Bit of both I guess.

                            Hhhhhmmmmmm

                            It's Alun Wyn Jones

                            Just because you Welsh haven't learned to spell properly after all these years.

                            @Billy-Webb Didn't I say something about school days?

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                            • CatograndeC Catogrande

                              @MiketheSnow said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                              @Catogrande said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                              @Billy-Webb said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                              @MiketheSnow said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                              We'll be fielding Neil Jenkins and a few supporters the number of injuries we've got.

                              Is it that bad Mike?
                              If so, it's a pity for Wales who of the 2 teams, probably have the most to gain from this match. Swansong for Gatland (and Wyn Jones I think?), bronze medal and a first ever victory over the AB's....

                              I wouldn't bet on that one, Jones (it's Alan-Wyn, not Wyn-Jones BTW) has already had more swan songs than Sinatra and he keeps coming back for more. Legend or nutter? Bit of both I guess.

                              Hhhhhmmmmmm

                              It's Alun Wyn Jones

                              Just because you Welsh haven't learned to spell properly after all these years.

                              @Billy-Webb Didn't I say something about school days?

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                              @Catogrande @MiketheSnow

                              WTF lads?
                              I'm now as confused as a vegan meerkat.

                              Can the 2 of you please decide on the right answer so my education is accurate?

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                              • Billy WebbB Billy Webb

                                @Catogrande @MiketheSnow

                                WTF lads?
                                I'm now as confused as a vegan meerkat.

                                Can the 2 of you please decide on the right answer so my education is accurate?

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                                @Billy-Webb said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                                @Catogrande @MiketheSnow

                                WTF lads?
                                I'm now as confused as a vegan meerkat.

                                Can the 2 of you please decide on the right answer so my education is accurate?

                                Alan Lost Jones.

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                                • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                  @Billy-Webb said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                                  @Catogrande @MiketheSnow

                                  WTF lads?
                                  I'm now as confused as a vegan meerkat.

                                  Can the 2 of you please decide on the right answer so my education is accurate?

                                  Alan Lost Jones.

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                                  @MajorRage

                                  😄 you're not helpng MR.

                                  But I think I have it now anyway: Alun Wyn Jones (no hyphens).

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                                  • Billy WebbB Billy Webb

                                    @MajorRage

                                    😄 you're not helpng MR.

                                    But I think I have it now anyway: Alun Wyn Jones (no hyphens).

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                                    @Billy-Webb Close. Alun-Wyn - with a hyphen. Alun-Wyn being his given name. made more complex by the somewhat confusing Welsh alphabet. U instead of A, LL (being Cl), dd (being f), csi (instead of x). Plus many more I am sure.

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                                    • CatograndeC Catogrande

                                      @Billy-Webb Close. Alun-Wyn - with a hyphen. Alun-Wyn being his given name. made more complex by the somewhat confusing Welsh alphabet. U instead of A, LL (being Cl), dd (being f), csi (instead of x). Plus many more I am sure.

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                                      @Catogrande said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                                      @Billy-Webb Close. Alun-Wyn - with a hyphen. Alun-Wyn being his given name. made more complex by the somewhat confusing Welsh alphabet. U instead of A, LL (being Cl), dd (being f), csi (instead of x). Plus many more I am sure.

                                      Eish.... Third time lucky for me then. Or is it fourth? Or fifth? I will now exit the stage with whatever shred of dignity I still have remaining...

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                                      • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                        Yep.

                                        Liam Williams, George North gone in the backs.

                                        Jonathan Davies and Hadleigh Parkes broken but playing.

                                        Not many scoring opportunities if these four aren't firing.

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                                        @MiketheSnow Hadliegh Parkes? Wales is screwed.

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                                        • CatograndeC Catogrande

                                          @Billy-Webb said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                                          @MiketheSnow said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                                          We'll be fielding Neil Jenkins and a few supporters the number of injuries we've got.

                                          Is it that bad Mike?
                                          If so, it's a pity for Wales who of the 2 teams, probably have the most to gain from this match. Swansong for Gatland (and Wyn Jones I think?), bronze medal and a first ever victory over the AB's....

                                          I wouldn't bet on that one, Jones (it's Alan-Wyn, not Wyn-Jones BTW) has already had more swan songs than Sinatra and he keeps coming back for more. Legend or nutter? Bit of both I guess.

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                                          @Catogrande said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                                          @Billy-Webb said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                                          @MiketheSnow said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                                          We'll be fielding Neil Jenkins and a few supporters the number of injuries we've got.

                                          Is it that bad Mike?
                                          If so, it's a pity for Wales who of the 2 teams, probably have the most to gain from this match. Swansong for Gatland (and Wyn Jones I think?), bronze medal and a first ever victory over the AB's....

                                          I wouldn't bet on that one, Jones (it's Alan-Wyn, not Wyn-Jones BTW) has already had more swan songs than Sinatra and he keeps coming back for more. Legend or nutter? Bit of both I guess.

                                          Often much correlation and causation.

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