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RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales

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  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

    @Billy-Webb said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

    Swansong for Gatland (and Wyn Jones I think?), bronze medal and a first ever victory over the AB's.

    Well, I guess the 1953 Welsh win was fake news.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

    @Billy-Webb said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

    Swansong for Gatland (and Wyn Jones I think?), bronze medal and a first ever victory over the AB's.

    Well, I guess the 1953 Welsh win was fake news.

    Not to mention 1903 and 1935.

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      @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

      @Billy-Webb said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

      Swansong for Gatland (and Wyn Jones I think?), bronze medal and a first ever victory over the AB's.

      Well, I guess the 1953 Welsh win was fake news.

      Not to mention 1903 and 1935.

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      @booboo said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

      Not to mention 1903 and 1935.

      Deans scored in 1905.

      1935 was probbly fake news.

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        @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

        @Billy-Webb said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

        Swansong for Gatland (and Wyn Jones I think?), bronze medal and a first ever victory over the AB's.

        Well, I guess the 1953 Welsh win was fake news.

        Not to mention 1903 and 1935.

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        @booboo

        The 1953 Wales win was the subject of one of the best sports books I've ever read - Dragons & All Blacks.

        Highly, highly recommended.

        https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dragons-All-Blacks-Zealand-Century/dp/1840189282/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=dragons+and+all+blacks&qid=1572374122&rnid=1642204031&s=books&sr=1-2

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        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

          @booboo said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

          Not to mention 1903 and 1935.

          Deans scored in 1905.

          1935 was probbly fake news.

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          @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

          @booboo said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

          Not to mention 1903 and 1935.

          Deans scored in 1905.

          1935 was probbly fake news.

          1905 d'oh.

          1935 was one of the least successful All Black teams (lost two tests on tour) but captained by my Mum's uncle.

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            Jack Manchester?

            They were adjusting to the 3-4-1 scrum from the 2-3-3 IIRC. Major change in play for the AB's

            Didn't they lose to England as well?

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            • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

              Jack Manchester?

              They were adjusting to the 3-4-1 scrum from the 2-3-3 IIRC. Major change in play for the AB's

              Didn't they lose to England as well?

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              @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

              Jack Manchester?

              They were adjusting to the 3-4-1 scrum from the 2-3-3 IIRC. Major change in play for the AB's

              Didn't they lose to England as well?

              Obolensky's match I think?

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              • CatograndeC Catogrande

                @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                Jack Manchester?

                They were adjusting to the 3-4-1 scrum from the 2-3-3 IIRC. Major change in play for the AB's

                Didn't they lose to England as well?

                Obolensky's match I think?

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                @Catogrande Ahh, so England are the instigators of poaching then. At least they have set a high level, a Prince no less. Still I'll settle for a Tokoroa Matai or a possible Nadi Ratu.

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                  @Catogrande Ahh, so England are the instigators of poaching then. At least they have set a high level, a Prince no less. Still I'll settle for a Tokoroa Matai or a possible Nadi Ratu.

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                  @Higgins Political and economic migrant, same as Willi Heinz. πŸ™‚

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                    Perhaps RWC Mickey Mouse Final is an apt thread title name for this thread as well?

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                      So the team is named today right?

                      Does Hansen risk (his reputation) starting Cane and Rieko?

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                        No one fired up about this team being leaked is indicative of the mire we're in this week πŸ˜€

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                        • SiamS Siam

                          No one fired up about this team being leaked is indicative of the mire we're in this week πŸ˜€

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                          @Siam said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                          No one fired up about this team being leaked is indicative of the mire we're in this week πŸ˜€

                          They could roll out Fozzie at first 5 for all I care

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                            You would assume Read, Crotty, SBW, Bender will be in the side as it is their last test for the AB's? You would then think some of the players that have not featured may get some minutes, Moli, Ioane, Weber, Coltman, Frizell. Then a dash of the top 15 who have a point to prove.

                            Or maybe Shag wants to put out the strongest side to ensure the win. I guess we sill see soon enough.

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                            • NepiaN Nepia

                              So the team is named today right?

                              Does Hansen risk (his reputation) starting Cane and Rieko?

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                              @Nepia why would Cane be a risk?

                              TBF, a few players like Crotty, Ioane and BFA, havent played for almost a month!

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                                @Nepia why would Cane be a risk?

                                TBF, a few players like Crotty, Ioane and BFA, havent played for almost a month!

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                                @taniwharugby said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                                @Nepia why would Cane be a risk?

                                Because he should have started last week. :angry_face:

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                                • NepiaN Nepia

                                  @taniwharugby said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                                  @Nepia why would Cane be a risk?

                                  Because he should have started last week. :angry_face:

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                                  @Nepia still dont get how that is a risk...

                                  We still want/need to win this game, so I expect they will roll out largely what they intended the final should we make it...with a 50 year record over Wales on the line, I dont htink there is room for nostalgic endings for the likes of Crotty & BFA!

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                                  • chimoausC chimoaus

                                    You would assume Read, Crotty, SBW, Bender will be in the side as it is their last test for the AB's? You would then think some of the players that have not featured may get some minutes, Moli, Ioane, Weber, Coltman, Frizell. Then a dash of the top 15 who have a point to prove.

                                    Or maybe Shag wants to put out the strongest side to ensure the win. I guess we sill see soon enough.

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                                    @chimoaus said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                                    You would assume Read, Crotty, SBW, Bender will be in the side as it is their last test for the AB's? You would then think some of the players that have not featured may get some minutes, Moli, Ioane, Weber, Coltman, Frizell. Then a dash of the top 15 who have a point to prove.

                                    Or maybe Shag wants to put out the strongest side to ensure the win. I guess we sill see soon enough.

                                    I hope (and expect) Hansen's first priority is to win. Marc Hinto picked this team to start - but, that tight five would worry me.

                                    Beauden Barrett, Ben Smith, Ryan Crotty, Sonny Bill Williams, Rieko Ioane, Richie Mo'unga, TJ Perenara; Kieran Read (capt), Sam Cane, Shannon Frizell, Patrick Tuipulotu, Brodie Retallick, Angus Ta'avao, Dane Coles, Atu Moli.

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                                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                      @Nepia still dont get how that is a risk...

                                      We still want/need to win this game, so I expect they will roll out largely what they intended the final should we make it...with a 50 year record over Wales on the line, I dont htink there is room for nostalgic endings for the likes of Crotty & BFA!

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                                      @taniwharugby said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                                      @Nepia still dont get how that is a risk...

                                      We still want/need to win this game, so I expect they will roll out largely what they intended the final should we make it...with a 50 year record over Wales on the line, I dont htink there is room for nostalgic endings for the likes of Crotty & BFA!

                                      Risk to Hansen's reputation ... not to the game.

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                                      • NepiaN Nepia

                                        @taniwharugby said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                                        @Nepia still dont get how that is a risk...

                                        We still want/need to win this game, so I expect they will roll out largely what they intended the final should we make it...with a 50 year record over Wales on the line, I dont htink there is room for nostalgic endings for the likes of Crotty & BFA!

                                        Risk to Hansen's reputation ... not to the game.

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                                        @Nepia hasnt he already said they got that wrong?

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                                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                          @chimoaus said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                                          You would assume Read, Crotty, SBW, Bender will be in the side as it is their last test for the AB's? You would then think some of the players that have not featured may get some minutes, Moli, Ioane, Weber, Coltman, Frizell. Then a dash of the top 15 who have a point to prove.

                                          Or maybe Shag wants to put out the strongest side to ensure the win. I guess we sill see soon enough.

                                          I hope (and expect) Hansen's first priority is to win. Marc Hinto picked this team to start - but, that tight five would worry me.

                                          Beauden Barrett, Ben Smith, Ryan Crotty, Sonny Bill Williams, Rieko Ioane, Richie Mo'unga, TJ Perenara; Kieran Read (capt), Sam Cane, Shannon Frizell, Patrick Tuipulotu, Brodie Retallick, Angus Ta'avao, Dane Coles, Atu Moli.

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                                          @Chris-B said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                                          @chimoaus said in RWC: 3rd/4th game All Blacks vs Wales:

                                          You would assume Read, Crotty, SBW, Bender will be in the side as it is their last test for the AB's? You would then think some of the players that have not featured may get some minutes, Moli, Ioane, Weber, Coltman, Frizell. Then a dash of the top 15 who have a point to prove.

                                          Or maybe Shag wants to put out the strongest side to ensure the win. I guess we sill see soon enough.

                                          I hope (and expect) Hansen's first priority is to win. Marc Hinto picked this team to start - but, that tight five would worry me.

                                          Beauden Barrett, Ben Smith, Ryan Crotty, Sonny Bill Williams, Rieko Ioane, Richie Mo'unga, TJ Perenara; Kieran Read (capt), Sam Cane, Shannon Frizell, Patrick Tuipulotu, Brodie Retallick, Angus Ta'avao, Dane Coles, Atu Moli.

                                          Id be happy with that side, those players leaving deserve a fitting farewell.

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