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Same old Russians, always cheating

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    Russia suspended by IAAF indefinitely

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      Hearing they'll be back in time for Rio, in practice

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        They have to prove theyvd made an effort to clean up , at the stage they are out of Rio apparently <br>
        Imagine being to corrupt for the Olympics , it's like the drummer who was kicked out of guns and roses for being too messed up on drugs.

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          <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/nov/16/kenya-athletics-iaaf-drugs-in-sport-russia'>http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/nov/16/kenya-athletics-iaaf-drugs-in-sport-russia</a></p>
          <p> </p>
          <p>Kenya the next to fall?</p>

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            <p>INteresting stuff Sammy - we all just kind of accept that the Kenyans are born to run but fuck that would be massive.</p>

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              <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/nov/25/dick-pound-wada-report-explosive-wow-factor-iaaf'>http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/nov/25/dick-pound-wada-report-explosive-wow-factor-iaaf</a></p>
              <p> </p>
              <p>Lots more to come apparently, </p>

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                <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/74472695/welsh-rugbys-drug-problem-totally-off-the-scale'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/74472695/welsh-rugbys-drug-problem-totally-off-the-scale</a></p>
                <p> </p>
                <p>Welsh Rugby</p>

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                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="544593" data-time="1448566460"><p><a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/74472695/welsh-rugbys-drug-problem-totally-off-the-scale">http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/74472695/welsh-rugbys-drug-problem-totally-off-the-scale</a><br><br>
                  Welsh Rugby</p></blockquote>
                  They're easy to spot in Welsh rugby, usually orange with no neck (or brain)

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                    <p>Interestingly enough Poolerfan, my nephew who is in the police force in South Wales has suggested that there is a real steroid abuse problem been going on for some time - reckons they have to deal with at least one roid-rage issue every weekend. He does hasten to add this is nothing necessarily to do with rugby per se and certainly not at the top level. The slightly worrying thing is that he's not based in Cardiff or Swansea but one of the smaller towns.</p>

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                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Catogrande" data-cid="544799" data-time="1448621826"><p>Interestingly enough Poolerfan, my nephew who is in the police force in South Wales has suggested that there is a real steroid abuse problem been going on for some time - reckons they have to deal with at least one roid-rage issue every weekend. He does hasten to add this is nothing necessarily to do with rugby per se and certainly not at the top level. The slightly worrying thing is that he's not based in Cardiff or Swansea but one of the smaller towns.</p></blockquote>
                      I've played against a few "roided" up in Wales.<br>
                      It's a problem with society these days not just rugby but I'd hazard a guess it's more prevalent outside the big cities like Cardiff & Swansea in the valleys.

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                        <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/74632820/rugby-world-cup-doping-test-results-reveal-the-sport-is-clean--world-rugby'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/74632820/rugby-world-cup-doping-test-results-reveal-the-sport-is-clean--world-rugby</a></p>
                        <p> </p>
                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">
                        <p> </p>
                        <p>Organisers say no positive tests have been recorded from nearly 500 doping samples collected during the Rugby World Cup.</p>
                        <p> </p>
                        <p>Tournament organisers have announced the results of the "intelligence-led, targeted" drug-testing programme during the World Cup, which was played in England and Wales in September and October.</p>
                        <p> </p>
                        <p>World Rugby says 468 urine and blood tests were carried out across all 20 teams, with 200 in-competition samples and 268 out-of-competition.</p>
                        <p> </p>
                        <p>"The programme has recorded no adverse analytical findings to date," World Rugby said in a statement.</p>
                        <p> </p>
                        <p>Samples were analysed at the World Anti-Doping Agency-accredited laboratory at King's College in London.</p>
                        <p> </p>
                        <p>Samples will be stored for possible future re-analysis.</p>
                        </blockquote>

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                          <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="545661" data-time="1449001211">
                          <div>
                          <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/74632820/rugby-world-cup-doping-test-results-reveal-the-sport-is-clean--world-rugby'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/74632820/rugby-world-cup-doping-test-results-reveal-the-sport-is-clean--world-rugby</a></p>
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                          </blockquote>
                          <p> </p>
                          <p>They didn't get Lance to test positive either.</p>

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                            <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="nzzp" data-cid="545720" data-time="1449025100">
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                            <p>They didn't get Lance to test positive either.</p>
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                            <p>lance had top of the line docters and a much larger drugs budget. but also his testing was much more difficult to dodge. the testing they do in rugby, if you have the money you can cheat quite easily, thing is there isnt a lot of money in rugby. </p>

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                              <p>Big news coming out of Italy now <span style="color:rgb(20,24,35);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;"> 26 banned, 39 with cases to answer. This list is basically a "who's who" of Italian track and field over the past decade.</span></p>
                              <p> </p>
                              <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.eurosport.co.uk/athletics/italian-anti-doping-body-calls-for-bans-on-26-athletes_sto5012493/story.shtml'>http://www.eurosport.co.uk/athletics/italian-anti-doping-body-calls-for-bans-on-26-athletes_sto5012493/story.shtml</a></p>

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                                <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/sevens/74726492/new-zealand-womens-sevens-team-upset-by-russia-on-opening-day-in-dubai'>http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/sevens/74726492/new-zealand-womens-sevens-team-upset-by-russia-on-opening-day-in-dubai</a></p>
                                <p> </p>
                                <p>Wrong thread?</p>

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                                  <p>its a lot easier to cheat testing than people </p>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MuddyRiver" data-cid="545754" data-time="1449047778">
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                                  <p>lance had top of the line docters and a much larger drugs budget. but also his testing was much more difficult to dodge. the testing they do in rugby, if you have the money you can cheat quite easily, thing is there isnt a lot of money in rugby. </p>
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                                  </blockquote>
                                  <p> </p>
                                  <p>Its a lot easier to beat tests than people realise </p>

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                                    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="kiwiinmelb" data-cid="546072" data-time="1449212095">
                                    <div>
                                    <p>its a lot easier to cheat testing than people </p>
                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p>Its a lot easier to beat tests than people realise </p>
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                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p>as an individual or an organisation? Say a 'decent' S18 player was all juiced up, would it be easy for hiim to get past the tests or would he need more 'support'?</p>

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                                      <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="taniwharugby" data-cid="546185" data-time="1449263581">
                                      <div>
                                      <p>as an individual or an organisation? Say a 'decent' S18 player was all juiced up, would it be easy for hiim to get past the tests or would he need more 'support'?</p>
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                                      <p>
                                      if he had legit pharma grade products from a docter  he could cheat very easily.  <br><br>
                                      it gets harder once they become nz elite and go on to the 24 hour watch programme where drug free sport can test you no matter where you are in the world any day of the year. even then lance had tougher testing than that but he also had a extremely good setup of docters and money</p>

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                                        <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/feb/15/former-russian-anti-doping-chief-nikita-kamayev-dies-report'>Former Russian anti-doping chief Nikita Kamayev dies</a></p>
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">
                                        <p> </p>
                                        <p>Rusada says Kamayev, who resigned as agency’s executive director two months ago following doping scandal, had a heart attack at age 52.</p>
                                        </blockquote>

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                                          Overdose? 🙂

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