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Chiefs 2020

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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    So Milo-Harris is the 3rd halfback. I don't know much about him other than he is from Taranaki but was schooled in Auckland.

    Disappointed the Chiefs needed to sign a loose forward from Otago (Nel).

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    @Bovidae

    No Finau?

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      @Bovidae

      No Finau?

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      @gt12 I'm sure he'll be in the WTG with the likes of Vaa’i.

      I honestly haven't seen enough of Ah Kuoi to comment but in the Wellington games I watched he didn't get much time off the bench.

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        Ah Kuoi is not very tall. He's another Brown or Ardron. So, with the notable exception of Allardice, the Chiefs have a collection of smallish locks. Lineout could be an issue.

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          Ah Kuoi is not very tall. He's another Brown or Ardron. So, with the notable exception of Allardice, the Chiefs have a collection of smallish locks. Lineout could be an issue.

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          @cgrant Just checked. Listed at 1.96 m, I thought he was taller. 2 m locks aren't easy to find but I would have selected Vaa'i myself.

          Judging by Neil Barnes comments Jacobson is a good bet to be the no.8.

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            From the pdf in the general thread:

            0be25340-1f0e-4e5b-b211-bbce3170bbe1-image.png

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              My guess at the likely Chiefs XV.

              1. Moli
              2. Harris
              3. Laulala
              4. Ardron
              5. Allardice
              6. Brown
              7. Cane (c)
              8. Jacobson
              9. Weber
              10. Cruden
              11. Alaimalo
              12. Nankivell
              13. Lienert-Brown
              14. Stevenson
              15. McKenzie

              The loose forward mix might be different if Jacobson plays at 6 and ALB's position will depend on whether Nankivell or Manu start.

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              • StargazerS Stargazer

                From the pdf in the general thread:

                0be25340-1f0e-4e5b-b211-bbce3170bbe1-image.png

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                @Stargazer That graphic is also wrong. Tupaea is a midfielder and Sullivan probably more a winger in this squad.

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  @Stargazer That graphic is also wrong. Tupaea is a midfielder and Sullivan probably more a winger in this squad.

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                  @Bovidae Yeah, the more I look at it, the more mistakes I find in that pdf. Don't know which idiot made that pdf.

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                    I must be hard to please I guess, but am disappointed at some of the signings. I just do not get why some local talent gets ignored and they seemingly take big punts on outsiders. Where is Tupo Vaai? Ah Kuoi did not impress me much in NPC. Looks like we were well beaten by Blues on Narawa and Tucker, and Zane Kapeli and Jesse Parete also signed elsewhere, so we are left with Kini Naholo and Dylan Nel (why?), who seem riskier options to me. Sorry to see Judd and Stratton go, and was expecting Hauiti-Parepare to be picked up. Never considered Milo-Harris. Also thought Matt Garland and Mitch Jacobson unlucky again. Surprised Coxon chosen ahead of Norris, but maybe a year early for him. The plus is that Chiefs seem the most stable squad. Hoping that Sam McNicol comes good, as he had huge potential, and maybe Tiaan Falcon will come through.

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                      Is Kini Naholo up to Super Rugby?

                      @ARHS The core squad (and Cruden) look decent but I agree the new signings look a bit vanilla.

                      Should do some damage if they can get a relative top side out there frequently, and Cruden has some form, and DMac returns to his best. The top backline looks lethal.

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                      • NepiaN Nepia

                        Is Kini Naholo up to Super Rugby?

                        @ARHS The core squad (and Cruden) look decent but I agree the new signings look a bit vanilla.

                        Should do some damage if they can get a relative top side out there frequently, and Cruden has some form, and DMac returns to his best. The top backline looks lethal.

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                        @Nepia My only issue is locks. Prop's are good, loosies are good, if Cruden can pop off then we'll be sweet. Midfield is stacked. Alaimalo needs a good year.

                        What gets me is that Tupaea is named as an outside back and Sullivan as midfield. Is the plan to chuck Tupaea on the wing? Hope not.

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                        • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                          @Nepia My only issue is locks. Prop's are good, loosies are good, if Cruden can pop off then we'll be sweet. Midfield is stacked. Alaimalo needs a good year.

                          What gets me is that Tupaea is named as an outside back and Sullivan as midfield. Is the plan to chuck Tupaea on the wing? Hope not.

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                          @Yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2020:

                          @Nepia My only issue is locks. Prop's are good, loosies are good, if Cruden can pop off then we'll be sweet. Midfield is stacked. Alaimalo needs a good year.

                          What gets me is that Tupaea is named as an outside back and Sullivan as midfield. Is the plan to chuck Tupaea on the wing? Hope not.

                          I think if Adron and Allardice stay fit then locks wont be an issue but if those two go down the Chiefs are stuffed.

                          You have to assume it's a round the wrong muddle up in the listing.

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                            Is DMac going to be ready for the beginning of the season?

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                            • BovidaeB Bovidae

                              My guess at the likely Chiefs XV.

                              1. Moli
                              2. Harris
                              3. Laulala
                              4. Ardron
                              5. Allardice
                              6. Brown
                              7. Cane (c)
                              8. Jacobson
                              9. Weber
                              10. Cruden
                              11. Alaimalo
                              12. Nankivell
                              13. Lienert-Brown
                              14. Stevenson
                              15. McKenzie

                              The loose forward mix might be different if Jacobson plays at 6 and ALB's position will depend on whether Nankivell or Manu start.

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                              @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2020:

                              My guess at the likely Chiefs XV.

                              1. Moli
                              2. Harris
                              3. Laulala
                              4. Ardron
                              5. Allardice
                              6. Brown
                              7. Cane (c)
                              8. Jacobson
                              9. Weber
                              10. Cruden
                              11. Alaimalo
                              12. Nankivell
                              13. Lienert-Brown
                              14. Stevenson
                              15. McKenzie

                              The loose forward mix might be different if Jacobson plays at 6 and ALB's position will depend on whether Nankivell or Manu start.

                              Wow! So many very good players. An incredible backline. Gats will be chomping at the bit. If everyone stays fit, that team wins the title.

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                                I must be hard to please I guess, but am disappointed at some of the signings. I just do not get why some local talent gets ignored and they seemingly take big punts on outsiders. Where is Tupo Vaai? Ah Kuoi did not impress me much in NPC. Looks like we were well beaten by Blues on Narawa and Tucker, and Zane Kapeli and Jesse Parete also signed elsewhere, so we are left with Kini Naholo and Dylan Nel (why?), who seem riskier options to me. Sorry to see Judd and Stratton go, and was expecting Hauiti-Parepare to be picked up. Never considered Milo-Harris. Also thought Matt Garland and Mitch Jacobson unlucky again. Surprised Coxon chosen ahead of Norris, but maybe a year early for him. The plus is that Chiefs seem the most stable squad. Hoping that Sam McNicol comes good, as he had huge potential, and maybe Tiaan Falcon will come through.

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                                @ARHS said in Chiefs 2020:

                                I must be hard to please I guess, but am disappointed at some of the signings. I just do not get why some local talent gets ignored and they seemingly take big punts on outsiders. Where is Tupo Vaai? Ah Kuoi did not impress me much in NPC.

                                Yes, I mentioned earlier that I don't agree with this selection. We don't know how early some of the players like Tucker were signed as he was involved with the Blues this season.

                                I do find it strange that Parete and Nel swap regions. I don't rate Parete that highly and thought no.8 was a problem for the Chiefs.

                                Surprised Coxon chosen ahead of Norris, but maybe a year early for him.

                                Coxon was brought in as an injury replacement this year so it was between him and Mafileo for the 3rd LH spot. Coxon is a Cambridge boy so a local as such, and was a former U20 rep. Norris has a big future but showed his inexperience in the M10 Cup in the scrum. The Chiefs have a number of 19/20 yr olds in their system so as long as they are signed there is no reason to rush their development.

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                                • HoorooH Hooroo

                                  Is DMac going to be ready for the beginning of the season?

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                                  @Hooroo said in Chiefs 2020:

                                  Is DMac going to be ready for the beginning of the season?

                                  Barnes said he has started contact work so will be good to go.

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                                    I like this Chiefs squad they are going to be a real contender in 2020 maybe the top NZ side.

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                                    • ChrisC Chris

                                      I like this Chiefs squad they are going to be a real contender in 2020 maybe the top NZ side.

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                                      @Chris Yep, I think so, too.

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                                      • ChrisC Chris

                                        I like this Chiefs squad they are going to be a real contender in 2020 maybe the top NZ side.

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                                        @Chris said in Chiefs 2020:

                                        I like this Chiefs squad they are going to be a real contender in 2020 maybe the top NZ side.

                                        I think an issue this year could be in style adaptation - Gatland may enforce his style or he may try to adapt his to the Chiefs style of the Rennie/Cooper years.

                                        I'm hoping it's not, but it could be a dud year due to that. Although, Rennie had the team playing his style pretty much immediately.

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                                        • NepiaN Nepia

                                          @Chris said in Chiefs 2020:

                                          I like this Chiefs squad they are going to be a real contender in 2020 maybe the top NZ side.

                                          I think an issue this year could be in style adaptation - Gatland may enforce his style or he may try to adapt his to the Chiefs style of the Rennie/Cooper years.

                                          I'm hoping it's not, but it could be a dud year due to that. Although, Rennie had the team playing his style pretty much immediately.

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                                          @Nepia said in Chiefs 2020:

                                          pretty much immediately

                                          took 3 rounds. The first two were shit house. By the 3rd they looked like a different team.

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