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  • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

    @Duluth Maybe he was originally covering Barrett's early absence until the SBW thing happened then they made him full-time.

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    @Daffy-Jaffy That makes sense.. the profiles were probably done prior tot he SBW deal

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      @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2020:

      Scrafton is a loss but we get two for the price of one with Wardlaw and Tucker (not sure why we need six locks plus Robinson). interesting that Tucker is named in the loose forwards on some lists. Similar hard working players but Scrafton better at lineout i would say.

      I think Tucker basically replaces Tupou as the loose forward who can play lock

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      @Duluth said in Blues 2020:

      I think Tucker basically replaces Tupou as the loose forward who can play lock

      Tucker has played lock, 6 and 8 so offers some versatility in a 23. I love his attitude on the field.

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        Forwards look similar to last year with some better depth. The two biggest questions IMO are who starts at hooker and who partners Tuipulotu?

        I would have Eklund start at Hooker. A good solid hard worker. Niuia is perfect for an impact role off the bench.
        Hopefully Parsons drops back into a mentor/injury cover role.

        I would give Pierce the first opportunity in the second row after a strong NPC. His stats seem incorrect the Blues website, Harbour lists him as 2.02 and 112kg which seems about right.
        He's already more abrasive than GCT and Goodhue even though he's still adding muscle to his frame

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        • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

          @rotated re: the midfield - Coach Leon confirmed this morning on Radio sport that once they knew SBW was leaving the plan B was to use Plummer to cover 12 as there were no suitable midfielders available. They then chose to bring in the promising young 10/15 Jack Heighton to learn and develop from being around Barrett etc. He also said that Marchant covers centre wing and fullback. So its good to have another fullback option.

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          @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2020:

          @rotated re: the midfield - Coach Leon confirmed this morning on Radio sport that once they knew SBW was leaving the plan B was to use Plummer to cover 12 as there were no suitable midfielders available.

          When was that? Leon was flagging SBW was gone as early as June, and anyone with foresight would have seen that he was moving on before the season started. Even if he re-signed how could any faith be put in his fitness?

          Speaking of Rangi I did enjoy him on the Breakdown trying to play off the Barrett signing as though the move was at least in part because he was so impressed with playing the Blues last season.

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            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12284854

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              It would have to be Marist.

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                I'd assume that if he's living in Remuera then it'll be College Rifles not that it matters haha.

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                  Six locks explained?

                  The absence of several others is also likely to be keenly felt. Tough lock Scott Scrafton has signed with the Hurricanes and the Blues may lack a bit of depth in his area early in the season, with All Black Patrick Tuipulotu a possibility to start a little later and Gerard Cowley-Tuioti recovering from a shoulder injury.

                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12284607

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                  • TimT Tim

                    Six locks explained?

                    The absence of several others is also likely to be keenly felt. Tough lock Scott Scrafton has signed with the Hurricanes and the Blues may lack a bit of depth in his area early in the season, with All Black Patrick Tuipulotu a possibility to start a little later and Gerard Cowley-Tuioti recovering from a shoulder injury.

                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12284607

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                    @Tim why didn't they sign Geoff cridge

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                      @Tim why didn't they sign Geoff cridge

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                      @Jonty-lean I think they have better players signed to be honest.

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                        @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2020:

                        @rotated re: the midfield - Coach Leon confirmed this morning on Radio sport that once they knew SBW was leaving the plan B was to use Plummer to cover 12 as there were no suitable midfielders available.

                        When was that? Leon was flagging SBW was gone as early as June, and anyone with foresight would have seen that he was moving on before the season started. Even if he re-signed how could any faith be put in his fitness?

                        Speaking of Rangi I did enjoy him on the Breakdown trying to play off the Barrett signing as though the move was at least in part because he was so impressed with playing the Blues last season.

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                        @rotated said in Blues 2020:

                        When was that?

                        Radio sport Wednesday morning after 7:30am sports news. I tried to sort a link for you but the 'week on demand' page isn't working for me. Won't load anything before Thursday. You could try it yourself here -
                        https://www.radiosport.co.nz/on-demand/week-on-demand/#panel4

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                        • TimT Tim

                          Six locks explained?

                          The absence of several others is also likely to be keenly felt. Tough lock Scott Scrafton has signed with the Hurricanes and the Blues may lack a bit of depth in his area early in the season, with All Black Patrick Tuipulotu a possibility to start a little later and Gerard Cowley-Tuioti recovering from a shoulder injury.

                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12284607

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                          @Tim I think I read on here from Steven Harris that Sam Caird will be training with the team as injury cover, I guess that's for C/T. Interestingly MacDonald said on the radio that Tucker can also play 6 and 8 so that explains why he was grouped with the back rowers on some team lists I saw.

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                            So what's your first choice XXIII?

                            1. Karl T
                            2. Parsons
                            3. Ofa T
                            4. Tuipulotu
                            5. Pierce
                            6. Robinson
                            7. Papalii
                            8. Ioane
                            9. Christie
                            10. Barrett/Plummer
                            11. Ioane
                            12. Faiane
                            13. Marchant
                            14. Narawa
                            15. Perofeta

                            Reserves:

                            1. Niuia
                            2. Hodgman
                            3. Renata (Thought he went well in NPC in the scrum)
                            4. Tucker/GCT
                            5. Gibson
                            6. Nock
                            7. Tele'a/Plummer
                            8. Duffie/Telea

                            Hooker and Lock are hard to pick, as are the lock and loose forward reserve. Hopefully there's a healthy level of rotation. Uncertainty over fullback. Wouldn't be surprised to see Marchant and Ioane swap places.

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                            • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                              @rotated said in Blues 2020:

                              When was that?

                              Radio sport Wednesday morning after 7:30am sports news. I tried to sort a link for you but the 'week on demand' page isn't working for me. Won't load anything before Thursday. You could try it yourself here -
                              https://www.radiosport.co.nz/on-demand/week-on-demand/#panel4

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                              @Daffy-Jaffy MacDonald said that they wanted Sione Havili, but he chose the Crusaders. Bugger.

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                              • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                                @rotated said in Blues 2020:

                                When was that?

                                Radio sport Wednesday morning after 7:30am sports news. I tried to sort a link for you but the 'week on demand' page isn't working for me. Won't load anything before Thursday. You could try it yourself here -
                                https://www.radiosport.co.nz/on-demand/week-on-demand/#panel4

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                                @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2020:

                                @rotated said in Blues 2020:

                                When was that?

                                Radio sport Wednesday morning after 7:30am sports news. I tried to sort a link for you but the 'week on demand' page isn't working for me. Won't load anything before Thursday. You could try it yourself here -
                                https://www.radiosport.co.nz/on-demand/week-on-demand/#panel4

                                Appreciate that. Thanks!

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  @Daffy-Jaffy MacDonald said that they wanted Sione Havili, but he chose the Crusaders. Bugger.

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                                  @Tim Once that happened I would have chased Mitch Jacobson or Slade McDowell before Lamborn. I was surprised neither was picked by their local team. i guess they wanted experience. Re: your team above, The more I look at the balance of the back rowers picked I think you are right that they will use Papalii at 7. I don't think its his best position but it gets all the best players on the park together.

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                                  • TimT Tim

                                    So what's your first choice XXIII?

                                    1. Karl T
                                    2. Parsons
                                    3. Ofa T
                                    4. Tuipulotu
                                    5. Pierce
                                    6. Robinson
                                    7. Papalii
                                    8. Ioane
                                    9. Christie
                                    10. Barrett/Plummer
                                    11. Ioane
                                    12. Faiane
                                    13. Marchant
                                    14. Narawa
                                    15. Perofeta

                                    Reserves:

                                    1. Niuia
                                    2. Hodgman
                                    3. Renata (Thought he went well in NPC in the scrum)
                                    4. Tucker/GCT
                                    5. Gibson
                                    6. Nock
                                    7. Tele'a/Plummer
                                    8. Duffie/Telea

                                    Hooker and Lock are hard to pick, as are the lock and loose forward reserve. Hopefully there's a healthy level of rotation. Uncertainty over fullback. Wouldn't be surprised to see Marchant and Ioane swap places.

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                                    @Tim that's a fantastic super level forward pack. Backs...meh.

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      @Daffy-Jaffy MacDonald said that they wanted Sione Havili, but he chose the Crusaders. Bugger.

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                                      @Tim Meh, not as fussed about missing out on him as a lot of others are on here. Lamborn's ok as backup.

                                      Still too many glaring holes for me especially in the backs. 9 as usual, depth at 12 and 15 could become problem positions for us. I'd assume that Plummer/Groundwater could see a bit of gametime should Faiane go down. Fullback worries me. Think we're screwed there when Perofeta and Duffie inevitably get injured. Maybe Narawa's worth a look there?

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                                        I have to say it does make me grin that the blues fans are lamenting the lack of depth at fullback. See Michael, it was all an act! 😄

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                                          I have to say it does make me grin that the blues fans are lamenting the lack of depth at fullback. See Michael, it was all an act! 😄

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                                          @Bones Settle down mate anything's better than him 😉

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